Podcast: EngineBraking
Published Date:
Thu, 02 Feb 2023 23:45:14 GMT
Duration:
1:04:13
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New Car Season is upon us!
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## Episode Summary:
* The podcast begins with a discussion about the upcoming Formula One season and the excitement surrounding the new car launches.
* The hosts, Dan, and Blake, talk about their personal experiences with the off-season and how they've been keeping up with Formula One news.
* They discuss the recent controversy surrounding Mohammed Ben Sulayem, the President of the FIA, and his comments about the value of Formula One.
* The hosts also talk about the new team principal for Williams, James Vowles, and speculate on his potential impact on the team's performance.
* They end the episode with a "baseless conspiracy theory" that James Vowles may be using his role at Williams to gain experience before eventually returning to Mercedes as Toto Wolff's successor.
## Key Insights and Perspectives:
* The hosts express their enthusiasm for the upcoming Formula One season and their anticipation for the new car launches.
* They discuss the challenges of being a Formula One fan during the off-season and the various ways they've stayed engaged with the sport.
* The hosts provide a balanced perspective on the Mohammed Ben Sulayem controversy, acknowledging the concerns raised by Liberty Media while also highlighting Ben Sulayem's efforts to bring new teams into Formula One.
* They offer their thoughts on the appointment of James Vowles as the new team principal for Williams, emphasizing the significant responsibility and challenges he will face in his new role.
* The hosts end the episode with a lighthearted and speculative discussion about the possibility of James Vowles eventually returning to Mercedes as Toto Wolff's successor.
## Important Quotes and Statements:
* "I think I need some medication for Formula One. I never thought I would say the words that I can't wait for Formula One to come back." - Dan
* "We've got some developments actually in the background, Dan, and you somehow have started something on Twitter." - Blake
* "What does Ferrari, a Fiat, and James May have in common?" - Dan
* "If Ferrari win the championship, I'm telling you now I'm going to buy a Fiat Panda and I'm gonna drive to Maranello and give him an apology letter in person." - Dan
* "I think that James has gone to Williams to build up some experience so he can come back to Mercedes when Toto retires." - Dan
## Analysis:
The podcast episode provides an engaging and informative discussion of various topics related to Formula One, including the upcoming season, recent controversies, and team changes. The hosts offer their unique perspectives and insights on these matters, making the episode both entertaining and thought-provoking.
The hosts' enthusiasm for Formula One is evident throughout the episode, and they effectively convey their excitement for the new season and the car launches. Their personal experiences with the off-season and their methods for staying engaged with the sport add a relatable element to the discussion.
The hosts' analysis of the Mohammed Ben Sulayem controversy is balanced and fair. They acknowledge the concerns raised by Liberty Media regarding Ben Sulayem's comments about the value of Formula One, while also highlighting Ben Sulayem's efforts to bring new teams into the sport. This balanced approach allows listeners to form their own opinions on the matter.
The hosts' discussion of James Vowles' appointment as the new team principal for Williams is insightful and informative. They emphasize the significant responsibility and challenges that Vowles will face in his new role, and they offer their thoughts on his potential impact on the team's performance.
The episode concludes with a lighthearted and speculative discussion about the possibility of James Vowles eventually returning to Mercedes as Toto Wolff's successor. This hypothetical scenario adds a touch of humor and intrigue to the episode, while also highlighting the hosts' knowledge of the Formula One landscape.
Overall, the podcast episode is a well-rounded and engaging discussion of various topics related to Formula One. The hosts' enthusiasm, insights, and humor make the episode enjoyable and informative for both casual and hardcore Formula One fans. **Episode Summary:**
* **New Car Season Launch Discussion:**
* Formula One's new car season is upon us, and the podcast team eagerly anticipates the upcoming car reveals.
* They discuss the recent trend of "livery reveals" instead of full car reveals, questioning the authenticity and excitement generated by these limited disclosures.
* They reminisce about the past when car reveals were more substantial events, involving actual cars and on-track demonstrations.
* **In-n-Out vs. 5 Guys Debate:**
* A light-hearted debate ensues between the hosts regarding their preferences for fast-food burger chains, specifically In-n-Out and 5 Guys.
* **FIA vs. F1 Controversy:**
* The podcast team briefly touches upon the ongoing controversy between the FIA and Formula One, highlighting the recent power struggle and governance issues within the sport.
* **Nyck De Vries' Legal Troubles:**
* The hosts discuss the ongoing legal battle involving Nyck De Vries, who is facing a lawsuit from a Dutch real estate magnate over a loan agreement related to his junior career.
* They speculate on the potential implications of this case, considering De Vries' recent success in Formula E and his prospects in Formula One.
* **Toto Wolff's Young Apprentice:**
* The podcast team mentions Toto Wolff's decision to bring in a young apprentice, James Vowles, to Mercedes, highlighting Vowles' impressive background and potential contributions to the team.
* **Adrian Newey's Photoshopped RB19:**
* The hosts briefly discuss rumors and speculation surrounding Adrian Newey's involvement in photoshopping the Red Bull RB19 car, emphasizing the importance of accuracy and transparency in car presentations.
* **NordVPN Partnership Announcement:**
* The podcast team announces their partnership with NordVPN, a leading VPN provider, and encourage listeners to take advantage of their exclusive offer for a discounted subscription.
* **Launch Season Schedule:**
* The team provides an overview of the upcoming car launch schedule, highlighting the dates and teams that will be revealing their new cars.
* **Car Reveals vs. Livery Reveals:**
* The hosts delve deeper into the differences between car reveals and livery reveals, explaining the historical context and the shift towards more controlled and staged presentations.
* They discuss the challenges and limitations of relying solely on renders and images, emphasizing the significance of seeing the actual cars on track.
* **Evolution of Formula One Cars:**
* The podcast team highlights the evolutionary nature of Formula One cars, noting that this year's cars are primarily developments and refinements of last year's designs.
* They mention the limited changes to the chassis and the focus on mitigating porpoising issues through modifications to the floor.
* **Ford's Potential Entry into Formula One:**
* The hosts discuss rumors and speculations about Ford's potential entry into Formula One, possibly partnering with Red Bull for the 2026 engine regulations.
* They question the motivations behind such a partnership and the potential benefits for both parties.
* **Red Bull's New York Launch:**
* The team mentions Red Bull's upcoming car launch event in New York, noting the unusual location and its connection to Alpha Tauri's fashion brand.
* **Alfa Romeo's New Title Partner:**
* The hosts discuss Alfa Romeo's new title partnership with Stake, a cryptocurrency gambling website.
* They raise concerns about the company's legitimacy and questionable business practices, including allegations of fake balances and underage gambling.
* **Stake's Shady Business Practices:**
* The podcast team delves deeper into Stake's controversial practices, including their alleged skirting of money laundering laws and lax KYC (Know Your Client) regulations.
* They question the ethical implications of such partnerships and the responsibility of Formula One teams in choosing their sponsors.
* **Andrew Benson's Leak:**
* The hosts mention a recent leak by Andrew Benson, a BBC reporter, suggesting that Red Bull's partnership with Ford for the 2026 engine regulations is a done deal.
* **FIA Opens Application Process for Prospective Formula One Teams:**
* The podcast team highlights the FIA's official launch of an application process for prospective Formula One teams.
* They emphasize the inclusion of sustainability benchmarks and positive societal impact as part of the selection criteria.
* **Conclusion:**
* The podcast team wraps up the episode by reiterating the significance of authenticity and transparency in Formula One, encouraging teams to prioritize genuine car reveals and address concerns regarding questionable partnerships. In this episode of the podcast, the hosts discuss the latest news and developments in the world of Formula One.
* **FIA vs. F1:** The hosts discuss the ongoing tension between the FIA and Formula One, with a focus on the FIA's attempt to limit team spending and the F1 teams' resistance to these regulations.
* **Nyck De Vries' Legal Troubles:** The hosts discuss the recent legal troubles faced by Nyck De Vries, who was accused of assaulting his former manager. They speculate on the potential impact of these accusations on De Vries' career.
* **Toto Wolff's Young Apprentice:** The hosts discuss Toto Wolff's recent comments about his desire to find a young driver to mentor and develop into a future Formula One star. They speculate on who this driver might be and what qualities Wolff is looking for.
* **Adrian Newey Photoshopping RB19:** The hosts discuss a recent incident in which Adrian Newey was caught photoshopping images of the RB19 to make it look more competitive than it actually was. They debate the ethical implications of this action and whether or not it gives Red Bull an unfair advantage.
* **New Teams Joining Formula One:** The hosts discuss the recent announcement that the FIA is opening a tender for new teams to join Formula One. They speculate on which teams might be interested in joining and what the impact of new teams would be on the sport.
* **In-N-Out vs. Five Guys:** The hosts engage in a lighthearted debate about the merits of In-N-Out Burger and Five Guys, two popular fast-food burger chains. They discuss the strengths and weaknesses of each chain and ultimately declare In-N-Out to be the superior burger.
Overall, the episode provides an informative and entertaining overview of the latest news and developments in Formula One. The hosts offer their unique perspectives and insights on the various topics discussed, making for a lively and engaging conversation.
[00:00.000 -> 00:08.640] You're listening to the most fraudulent F1 podcast with Dan, aka EngineNord11.
[00:08.640 -> 00:12.040] I secretly moonlight as Helmut Marko at race weekends.
[00:12.040 -> 00:14.080] And Blake, aka Brake.
[00:14.080 -> 00:17.220] Echo chambers of farts and idiots on Twitter after races.
[00:17.220 -> 00:29.560] It's the engine breaking F1 podcast. Uh, we're back.
[00:29.560 -> 00:31.360] Episode 14 in the house.
[00:31.360 -> 00:36.020] We've seen a couple of race cars and it's time to get into this episode.
[00:36.020 -> 00:37.320] I can't believe we've made it this far.
[00:37.320 -> 00:41.400] Honestly, I thought we were going to just fall apart, but as fraudulent as this podcast
[00:41.400 -> 00:43.680] is, I mean, mentally we're falling apart.
[00:43.680 -> 00:45.040] Yeah, that's fine. That's
[00:45.040 -> 00:48.680] completely fine. But that's allowed. Who isn't like anybody listening at home or if you're
[00:48.680 -> 00:52.600] like maybe walking your dog or you're sitting on the toilet listening to this podcast, just
[00:52.600 -> 00:55.800] raise your hand if you're falling apart. Yeah, I'd love to. We'd love to hear that or interact
[00:55.800 -> 01:01.360] with us on Twitter. Say your life's in shambles. And if you're listening in the car, just give
[01:01.360 -> 01:05.200] us a give us a little toot toot. We'll hear you wherever you are.
[01:05.200 -> 01:05.800] Don't worry.
[01:05.800 -> 01:06.600] I know.
[01:06.600 -> 01:07.100] I know.
[01:07.100 -> 01:07.600] I know.
[01:07.600 -> 01:09.700] Oh, but it's happening.
[01:09.700 -> 01:11.000] We're getting into the season.
[01:11.000 -> 01:12.400] We're starting to see some cars.
[01:12.400 -> 01:14.500] We're going to talk about deliveries and car launches.
[01:14.500 -> 01:17.000] There's all sorts of stuff happening in the background.
[01:17.000 -> 01:20.500] Everything coming up with new teams and everything else.
[01:20.500 -> 01:22.900] And do they, should they be in, should they not?
[01:22.900 -> 01:27.200] And a couple more changes that we haven't talked about since our last episode.
[01:27.200 -> 01:32.700] So welcome if it's your first time at a fraud club, you have to fraud.
[01:32.700 -> 01:37.800] Yeah, if this is your first time you have to come up with a baseless conspiracy.
[01:37.800 -> 01:44.900] And it tag us in your baseless conspiracies on Twitter and we'll retweet the best one.
[01:44.900 -> 01:45.280] How about that?
[01:45.280 -> 01:47.920] Yeah. Yep. That's that's how it works around here.
[01:47.920 -> 01:53.280] It says the baseless conspiracy theory that vowels has been transplanted in Williams.
[01:53.280 -> 01:57.600] That's not a conspiracy theory. That's that's probably factual, actually.
[01:57.600 -> 01:58.480] Actual factual.
[01:59.200 -> 02:02.800] We'll just call them mini, mini, mini Merc from here on out.
[02:02.800 -> 02:03.200] Yep.
[02:03.200 -> 02:06.240] Just kidding. Just kidding. We'll talk about all of that though,
[02:06.240 -> 02:08.240] but we even had some more developments
[02:08.240 -> 02:09.840] today with the FAA talking about some
[02:09.840 -> 02:11.040] stuff which I don't even think we made
[02:11.040 -> 02:13.040] indoors are probably not.
[02:13.040 -> 02:14.780] No, we'll sneak it in.
[02:14.800 -> 02:16.200] We'll get you guys up to date so.
[02:17.100 -> 02:18.800] I think we gotta Dan and I are both
[02:18.800 -> 02:20.080] doing some like streaming and content
[02:20.080 -> 02:21.200] commitments early season,
[02:21.200 -> 02:22.440] keeping you guys informed
[02:22.440 -> 02:23.560] because let's be honest,
[02:23.720 -> 02:29.000] it's been a long long break since we've had any Formula One and we're, we're itching for it, man.
[02:29.000 -> 02:33.140] I think I need some medication for Formula One. Jeez. I never thought I would, I'd never
[02:33.140 -> 02:37.040] thought I would say the words that I can't wait for Formula One to come back. Cause usually
[02:37.040 -> 02:40.560] at the end of every season, I'm like, please, can the break be a little bit longer for my
[02:40.560 -> 02:47.120] sanity, but uh, yeah, we're sickos and we need it. Is this not our first full winter break
[02:47.120 -> 02:53.120] not being employed by F1? Yes yes this is both of our first full winter breaks and honestly
[02:54.000 -> 02:59.760] my mental health is quite a bit better for it honestly. Yeah I was gonna say like when you're
[02:59.760 -> 03:06.800] actually working in F1 it uh flies by the offseason it's like the busiest period and now
[03:06.800 -> 03:10.400] experiencing it as a fan then...
[03:10.400 -> 03:13.400] Please sir can I have some Formula One?
[03:13.400 -> 03:13.900] Yeah!
[03:13.900 -> 03:14.900] Shut up!
[03:14.900 -> 03:18.700] I've not had to do any sort of late nights or anything like that it's weird
[03:18.700 -> 03:24.200] Yeah I'm feeling it yeah and as far as the offseason as a content creator in
[03:24.200 -> 03:25.200] Formula One it's like.
[03:26.960 -> 03:28.040] What the hell do we do?
[03:28.040 -> 03:31.160] Should I make some baseless predictions for the season, which
[03:31.800 -> 03:34.400] yeah, I am, which I'm working on, so what do you what do you what do you
[03:34.400 -> 03:36.400] get? You're going to do some you're going to come back and do some content
[03:36.400 -> 03:37.800] and streaming the off season.
[03:37.800 -> 03:38.240] I heard.
[03:38.240 -> 03:38.600] Yeah.
[03:38.600 -> 03:43.200] So I'm going to try and I'm pretty sure we say this every three episodes.
[03:43.200 -> 03:45.000] So this is your time to
[03:45.000 -> 03:50.680] do your engine mode 11 bingo drink or whatever yeah yeah I'm gonna try once
[03:50.680 -> 03:57.080] again to revive my YouTube channel I've got a video in progress now where
[03:57.080 -> 04:05.640] basically I am slandering the the stake sponsorship of Alfa Romeo. That's fine.
[04:05.640 -> 04:09.320] But you'll have to subscribe to Engine Mode 11 on YouTube
[04:09.320 -> 04:10.160] if you want to see more.
[04:10.160 -> 04:11.040] Oh my God.
[04:11.040 -> 04:12.280] Yeah, and if you don't subscribe.
[04:12.280 -> 04:13.360] Just tease them.
[04:13.360 -> 04:14.440] Yeah, exactly.
[04:14.440 -> 04:15.540] And then people are going to accuse you
[04:15.540 -> 04:17.540] for not leaking the whole video on this episode
[04:17.540 -> 04:19.080] and you're click baiting them.
[04:19.080 -> 04:20.600] Oh yeah, it's click bait.
[04:20.600 -> 04:22.420] Are you doing watch alongs for the winter testing
[04:22.420 -> 04:23.540] or have you been not?
[04:23.540 -> 04:26.620] Yeah, no, I was gonna do winter testing for
[04:27.740 -> 04:33.780] I'm gonna stream it on YouTube rather than twitch this time. Okay, you focusing on the YouTube's. Yeah, I think
[04:34.580 -> 04:41.220] I'm too busy. I don't have time to commit to regular streams. So fair enough. It's gonna it's gonna have to be YouTube
[04:41.220 -> 04:43.460] I think fair enough rock and roll, dude
[04:43.760 -> 04:47.780] So, uh, I will Dan will definitely post on Engine Mode 11
[04:47.780 -> 04:49.500] on Twitter, his schedule and what he's doing.
[04:49.500 -> 04:50.340] Oh yeah, hell yeah.
[04:50.340 -> 04:52.260] For winter testing watch longs and YouTube videos.
[04:52.260 -> 04:53.840] So you'll hear about it there.
[04:53.840 -> 04:55.020] And heck, we'll probably retweet him
[04:55.020 -> 04:56.700] off the engine braking account as well
[04:56.700 -> 04:57.520] if you're following that.
[04:57.520 -> 04:58.360] Sure, why not?
[04:58.360 -> 04:59.700] But yeah, go on.
[04:59.700 -> 05:01.940] I think I've got a couple of pieces of content coming up
[05:01.940 -> 05:03.580] and some stuff that I can't talk about yet,
[05:03.580 -> 05:05.860] but you will know about soon.
[05:05.860 -> 05:09.260] Tomorrow also I'm going to do the next three weeks until winter testing starts.
[05:09.260 -> 05:13.200] I'm doing watch alongs with multi viewer on my Twitch stream.
[05:13.200 -> 05:16.940] So we're going to watch some classic races and we're going to start tomorrow, Friday
[05:16.940 -> 05:17.940] or today for you.
[05:17.940 -> 05:21.260] If you're listening on audio, it will be the 2012 Barcelona Grand Prix.
[05:21.260 -> 05:27.040] Pastor Maldonado might have won a Grand Prix Williams garage burned down and it was your favorite frauds.
[05:27.320 -> 05:28.880] First Formula One race at the track.
[05:28.920 -> 05:30.240] So we're going to relive that.
[05:30.240 -> 05:34.280] Watch that over on the Twitch stream at twitch.tv front slash B R R R A K E.
[05:34.480 -> 05:35.720] Yeah, but that's it.
[05:35.720 -> 05:39.320] We got some YouTube stuff in the pipeline and a rocking and rolling.
[05:39.320 -> 05:40.880] We got a lot of stuff in the episode.
[05:40.880 -> 05:41.440] We've got.
[05:43.240 -> 05:45.400] MBS, he's got some stuff going on.
[05:45.680 -> 05:49.480] Mick DeVries, uh, Williams team principal. We're going to talk about
[05:49.480 -> 05:53.240] delivery launches or car launches as they are. Um, and then even a little
[05:53.240 -> 05:57.360] bit about what the FIA has just said about the, uh, looking for some teams.
[05:57.360 -> 06:01.560] So we're going to, we're going to dig into all of that very shortly, but.
[06:02.200 -> 06:08.040] I think we've got, we've had some development actually in the background, Dan, and you somehow have
[06:08.040 -> 06:09.360] started something on Twitter.
[06:09.360 -> 06:10.360] What did I do this time?
[06:10.360 -> 06:11.360] Oh, yeah, I know what this is.
[06:11.360 -> 06:15.720] Let's put it this way.
[06:15.720 -> 06:21.120] What does Ferrari, a Fiat, and James May have in common?
[06:21.120 -> 06:24.480] Anybody listening on the Twitch stream right now, let us know what you think.
[06:24.480 -> 06:26.700] But anyway, Dan, can you elaborate on this?
[06:26.700 -> 06:29.400] Because this has gotten quite serious
[06:29.400 -> 06:31.280] and I think we've even potentially roped
[06:31.280 -> 06:32.640] Vincenzo into this.
[06:32.640 -> 06:37.640] Yeah, so it started that my insane unreasonable bets
[06:37.920 -> 06:39.140] for the season have started.
[06:39.140 -> 06:43.040] So the baseless just completely vibes only.
[06:43.040 -> 06:47.120] Yeah, so most people know, if not last year I said if Mercedes win
[06:47.120 -> 06:51.760] a race I'll shave my beard off and of course I nearly managed to make it all the way through
[06:51.760 -> 07:02.880] the season until Russell terrorized his way to the top. Blimey! So I came out early because I waited
[07:02.880 -> 07:05.560] to see pre-season testing right last year so I
[07:05.560 -> 07:11.320] used soft side but but we've gone this time we've gone all in before we've even
[07:11.320 -> 07:17.720] got any cars on track so I started off with a relatively reasonable I said look
[07:17.720 -> 07:22.040] if Lance Stroll gets on the podium this year I'm gonna down a bottle of maple
[07:22.040 -> 07:25.520] syrup outside the Canadian embassy.
[07:32.640 -> 07:36.040] And, uh, then all the rumors came out about how Ferrari have got like an extra 30 brake horsepower and all this, and this is our year.
[07:36.080 -> 07:36.400] Yeah.
[07:36.400 -> 07:37.320] Italian, obviously.
[07:37.480 -> 07:37.880] Yeah.
[07:38.000 -> 07:42.720] And I was like, right, listen, if Ferrari win the championship, I'm telling you now
[07:43.120 -> 07:45.000] I'm going to buy a Fiat Panda and I'm gonna
[07:45.000 -> 07:49.680] drive to Maranello and give him an apology letter in person. Hand-delivered
[07:49.680 -> 07:56.640] handwritten apology letter? Yeah yeah okay yep and that upset a few people in
[07:56.640 -> 08:07.000] Italy. When I say a few people I mean like the Italians largest newspaper did a whole
[08:07.000 -> 08:15.000] article about it and then I asked, I put a photo up of a Fiat Panda I found that
[08:15.000 -> 08:21.480] I was gonna buy early, you know just to hedge the bets and I said oh guys you
[08:21.480 -> 08:25.960] gotta like this so you know my wife gives me permission to buy it.
[08:25.960 -> 08:30.440] And in the end, James May of Top Gear fame found it.
[08:31.480 -> 08:33.400] He basically said, you know,
[08:33.400 -> 08:35.500] Dan's wife, you need to let him buy this.
[08:38.720 -> 08:41.000] And then a few days later, I went to the corner shop,
[08:41.000 -> 08:43.360] my local corner shop, right?
[08:43.360 -> 08:45.200] The guy knows I used to work in F1,
[08:46.200 -> 08:47.760] but he doesn't know anything about my Twitter
[08:47.760 -> 08:48.860] or whatever like that.
[08:50.000 -> 08:52.120] Anyway, I come in and I was, I can't remember what I was
[08:52.120 -> 08:53.400] buying, but I put it on a counter and he goes,
[08:53.400 -> 08:55.000] have you bought that Fiat Panda yet?
[08:55.000 -> 09:00.000] I'm just like, have you been talking to my dad or something?
[09:00.000 -> 09:02.280] And he was like, oh no, I saw James May was talking about it
[09:02.280 -> 09:03.880] on Twitter and I realized it was you.
[09:03.880 -> 09:04.920] And I was like, oh, for God's sake.
[09:04.920 -> 09:05.320] So yeah.
[09:08.040 -> 09:09.040] I love that, mate.
[09:09.040 -> 09:10.720] That is so, so good.
[09:11.120 -> 09:13.580] Uh, well, there you have it.
[09:13.580 -> 09:15.020] We've got, we've got this whole thing.
[09:15.020 -> 09:19.080] So now here's the, you've set up the stakes and it's if they win the
[09:19.080 -> 09:27.680] championship drivers or constructors, you know, yeah, but it's got to happen either way now, doesn't it? No matter what.
[09:28.240 -> 09:34.800] So what if they don't win? If they don't win, maybe we do the trip anyway. Yeah. And then
[09:34.800 -> 09:39.600] if Red Bull win, maybe we just take them a can of Red Bull and just leave it in reception.
[09:39.600 -> 09:44.400] We'll take a can of Red Bull out of the MK Milton Keynes factory reception. Yeah, just go to
[09:44.400 -> 09:48.560] reception and say, hey guys, we're just having a a look around looking at the trophies as you can do and
[09:48.560 -> 09:53.120] there's a fridge up front for guests. I'm a guest I don't work here I'm a guest please
[09:53.120 -> 09:58.640] don't call the cops again and I'd like a can of Red Bull. We have to see if we're allowed past the
[09:58.640 -> 10:02.800] gate security first. Yeah and that could but you could park off-site and just walk through the
[10:02.800 -> 10:06.240] campus though. Yeah but if they see me me and you might get rugby tackled.
[10:06.240 -> 10:07.240] Nah, it's fine.
[10:07.240 -> 10:08.240] It's fine.
[10:08.240 -> 10:12.760] But like, it's like one of those things is that you collect the sample, the grail, put
[10:12.760 -> 10:13.760] it in it.
[10:13.760 -> 10:14.760] We'll all actually have been woodworking.
[10:14.760 -> 10:18.480] I'm going to make a nice box and we'll line it with, you know, something soft.
[10:18.480 -> 10:20.000] Yeah, exactly.
[10:20.000 -> 10:21.000] Velvet box.
[10:21.000 -> 10:23.120] We'll embroider it.
[10:23.120 -> 10:25.640] And then we'll deliver it. Uh, to Marinello.
[10:25.740 -> 10:28.500] And then I'd like to go on a tour of the, um, the museum
[10:28.500 -> 10:29.180] because I've never been.
[10:29.340 -> 10:29.700] Yeah.
[10:29.860 -> 10:30.180] Yeah.
[10:30.500 -> 10:35.780] And then we've also wrote, uh, Vincenzo into it because he was the person I made
[10:35.780 -> 10:38.620] a bet with in regards to the Ferrari.
[10:38.620 -> 10:41.900] Cause he said, oh, okay, come on, Dan, stop taking the mic out of the Ferrari fans.
[10:42.220 -> 10:42.980] Yeah, go on, lad.
[10:43.020 -> 10:45.260] So I said, you know what, Vincenzo, fair enough.
[10:45.260 -> 10:46.340] I'll make you this bet.
[10:47.140 -> 10:52.420] And then when James May and everyone got involved, I said, you're, you're stupid.
[10:52.420 -> 10:54.960] If you're not, don't think I'm involving you in this now.
[10:55.980 -> 11:00.160] Um, but yeah, no, he said, yeah, he said, look, you just let me know when I'll fly
[11:00.160 -> 11:02.340] over and we'll, uh, we'll have a little drive.
[11:02.920 -> 11:03.420] Love that.
[11:04.440 -> 11:04.840] Love that.
[11:04.840 -> 11:05.380] Are we going to, is it going to get modified at all? fly over and we'll have a little drive. Love that. Love that.
[11:05.380 -> 11:06.840] Is it gonna get modified at all?
[11:08.080 -> 11:09.220] Maybe just a branding?
[11:09.220 -> 11:10.880] Maybe some sponsorship packages?
[11:10.880 -> 11:11.720] Yeah, maybe.
[11:11.720 -> 11:13.200] I think we're gonna have to put stickers on it
[11:13.200 -> 11:15.660] to hold it together, to be perfectly honest.
[11:15.660 -> 11:16.760] Mate.
[11:16.760 -> 11:18.280] But yeah, we nearly found one.
[11:18.280 -> 11:20.080] There was a really nice Panda.
[11:20.080 -> 11:22.800] It was classic, 1991.
[11:22.800 -> 11:24.480] It was an Italian import as well,
[11:24.480 -> 11:25.580] so it would have been perfect.
[11:27.080 -> 11:28.600] Driven it back to the homeland.
[11:28.740 -> 11:29.620] Yeah, exactly.
[11:29.680 -> 11:31.340] But sadly we were beaten to it.
[11:31.380 -> 11:34.360] So the search is still on for a panda.
[11:34.400 -> 11:34.680] Okay.
[11:35.040 -> 11:40.740] So if anybody has any great ideas for how to better activate this or any games or
[11:40.740 -> 11:42.840] gimmicks, there's definitely, it's definitely going to be content.
[11:42.960 -> 11:44.400] Uh, we're going to have a laugh about it.
[11:44.880 -> 11:47.280] Uh, live streams from Italy. I'm just kidding. I'm not going
[11:47.280 -> 11:51.960] to live stream that would destroy my data plan, but anyway, that's happening and it's,
[11:51.960 -> 11:55.760] it's chaos. What you, you're, you're fucking nuts. I mean, shaving the beard was tragic
[11:55.760 -> 11:59.000] enough, but this is going to be, this is going to be great.
[11:59.000 -> 12:05.060] Yep. It's, uh, it's the engine breaking podcast on tour. Yeah, it'll be nuts.
[12:06.000 -> 12:08.320] But let's get into,
[12:09.400 -> 12:11.880] let's shift gears real quick, shall we?
[12:11.880 -> 12:13.520] And talk about what's been happening
[12:13.520 -> 12:15.000] over the last couple of weeks.
[12:16.600 -> 12:17.520] What's been happening?
[12:17.520 -> 12:21.400] Let's talk about our favorite liability at the moment,
[12:21.400 -> 12:24.040] and that's MBS.
[12:24.040 -> 12:28.480] Yeah, man. What has he been up to? liability at the moment and that's uh MBS. Yeah man, the president of the FIA
[12:29.120 -> 12:32.720] doesn't want to be the president of the FIA from everything that we can tell
[12:32.720 -> 12:39.440] and uh go through it like hit us with the top line points. Basically he's doing a speed run
[12:39.440 -> 12:47.080] to get fired. Yeah exactly. So again and we mentioned this I think in maybe the last episode
[12:47.080 -> 12:50.720] or whatever, he's done it again. He's tweeted from his personal account rather
[12:50.720 -> 12:57.800] than like any FIA account, but he put out a tweet saying that the 20 billion
[12:57.800 -> 13:08.320] price tag on F1 is inflated. Keep in mind real quick, the FIA is not the rights holder of the sport.
[13:08.320 -> 13:15.120] The FIA is the governing body and FOM or you know, Formula One or Liberty Media, they own
[13:15.120 -> 13:16.680] the commercial right to the sport.
[13:16.680 -> 13:20.240] The other people are just like, hey, we do the rules and we'll make sure the tracks are
[13:20.240 -> 13:27.280] okay, the cars are legal and we'll do the policing of the sport in terms of, you know, you know, uh, Marsley and all this stuff.
[13:27.360 -> 13:29.680] We'll, we'll make sure that's all fair and transparent and all that stuff.
[13:29.680 -> 13:30.720] So they can't do that.
[13:30.720 -> 13:31.000] Right.
[13:31.000 -> 13:36.040] But now the head president of that is like, Oh, by the way, the shit costs too much.
[13:36.040 -> 13:39.160] And you're like, wait, mate, how would you know?
[13:39.160 -> 13:40.920] For a start, who are you?
[13:40.920 -> 13:42.400] And what are you, what are you trying to do?
[13:42.400 -> 13:44.840] First of all, because there's an angle, there's gotta be an angle.
[13:48.060 -> 13:48.640] Yeah. Well, this is, this was because I think rumored that Saudi
[13:50.640 -> 13:51.320] Someone from Saudi Arabia or whatever
[13:56.920 -> 13:57.760] Was gonna try buy it. Yeah, because they've been on a bit of a buying spree at the minute
[13:59.720 -> 14:01.720] the Saudi Arabian What they call them fund or whatever
[14:03.520 -> 14:06.240] That's the one yeah, and it looks like F1 was their next target.
[14:06.240 -> 14:09.720] And it was like, Oh, apparently there's like a 20 billion price tag on it.
[14:09.760 -> 14:13.240] And this is when he came out and said, you're having a giggle.
[14:13.400 -> 14:15.720] If you think F1 is worth 20 billion.
[14:16.560 -> 14:16.800] Yeah.
[14:17.120 -> 14:22.740] It's a big increase because, um, Liberty media bought it for 4.4
[14:22.740 -> 14:29.400] billion in 2015, I want to say. Yeah it's been a while so I mean
[14:29.400 -> 14:34.360] what's that six seven years or whatever I can't do maths my head's mush today
[14:34.360 -> 14:41.640] yeah so yeah it is quite a big jump so yeah and then obviously he tweeted that
[14:41.640 -> 14:47.680] out and then we next thing we know Liberty Media lawyers have got involved and apparently they sent a letter to the FIA threatening legal
[14:47.680 -> 14:51.120] action over the comments basically saying could you please not do that.
[14:51.120 -> 14:56.320] Yeah here's the one thing I've seen I've seen two parties on this our favorite social media
[14:56.320 -> 15:03.480] dumpster fire of Twitter there's some people that are saying what's what's Mohammed doing
[15:03.480 -> 15:05.000] making all these comments about it?
[15:05.000 -> 15:07.600] You know, like, why is he speculating on the value?
[15:07.600 -> 15:09.600] This is not his job isn't doing nothing.
[15:09.600 -> 15:11.700] And he's just pissing off the people that own the sport and
[15:11.700 -> 15:14.900] potentially, you know, potentially damaging the sport and bring
[15:14.900 -> 15:15.500] it into question.
[15:15.500 -> 15:17.700] And the other hand of people like, yeah, but he's doing a really
[15:17.700 -> 15:18.000] good job.
[15:18.000 -> 15:21.000] He's trying to get another Formula One team on the grid.
[15:21.000 -> 15:23.400] It's like all the other stuff that we've had pilot that we don't
[15:23.400 -> 15:26.720] need to go back to all of it, but all the stuff that he's been pushing through and all
[15:26.720 -> 15:31.440] the agendas that he's been pushing and just. It seems a bit. He seems a bit lost to me
[15:32.080 -> 15:35.120] and then people, yeah, but he wants to bring in some more teams. So all that stuff's fine.
[15:35.120 -> 15:42.480] I'm like, I don't know, man. I not, not sure about this one, dude. Not sure about this dude at all.
[15:42.480 -> 15:49.200] No. And then in response to this, uh, this legal letter or whatever the FIA apparently hit back saying that the
[15:49.200 -> 15:53.720] sport was only on loan to the commercial rights holder which I thought was a bit
[15:53.720 -> 15:58.080] feisty and technically correct as well Liberty Media don't necessarily own
[15:58.080 -> 16:04.680] Formula One is World Championship status is given to it by the FIA they could
[16:04.680 -> 16:06.600] quite happily turn around one day and say,
[16:06.600 -> 16:08.320] no, you're not a world championship anymore.
[16:08.320 -> 16:09.920] We don't recognize you.
[16:09.920 -> 16:11.360] And then Liberty Media goes, right,
[16:11.360 -> 16:14.160] well, we'll get our own officiating body,
[16:14.160 -> 16:17.960] build that up, and it is, who owns the name Formula One?
[16:18.800 -> 16:21.280] Oh, that's a good question.
[16:21.280 -> 16:23.360] I don't think it's very true.
[16:23.360 -> 16:27.000] I don't believe it's the FIA.
[16:27.000 -> 16:28.000] But yeah, we're going to have another...
[16:28.000 -> 16:31.680] Do you know what happened last time? Do you remember A1GP?
[16:31.680 -> 16:34.720] Yeah, I don't remember. A1GP's been a while.
[16:34.720 -> 16:40.920] It was the World Championship where it was a spec series and it was by country.
[16:40.920 -> 16:49.800] Yes, it was a... What was it? It ran from 2005 until 2009, which is a lot longer than I thought actually, to be honest.
[16:49.800 -> 16:55.080] But yeah, it was, it was, that all came about because of some row they had.
[16:55.080 -> 16:57.640] It didn't really work out very well.
[16:57.640 -> 16:59.960] So that's why it died pretty quickly.
[16:59.960 -> 17:09.080] But anyway, anyway, so what happens if you stand up to Liberty media, Blake?
[17:09.080 -> 17:15.680] They go through your fucking bin and try to find scraps, scraps.
[17:15.680 -> 17:20.840] And it is not, it's not to say that the scraps they found were not, they're not excellent.
[17:20.840 -> 17:25.500] They're not good, but, uh, they,. They you know what? When you piss the wrong people up,
[17:25.500 -> 17:27.300] they will go through archived websites
[17:27.300 -> 17:30.700] and find anything just to be like, right?
[17:30.700 -> 17:31.600] Don't piss us off.
[17:31.600 -> 17:35.900] So there's an archived copy of his website from 2002
[17:36.200 -> 17:39.200] and he made a comment and he says,
[17:39.400 -> 17:40.600] you know, I don't like talking about money
[17:40.600 -> 17:42.300] and then quote, nor do I like women
[17:42.300 -> 17:43.600] who think they're smarter than men
[17:43.600 -> 17:44.900] for they are not in the truth.
[17:45.080 -> 17:48.040] And this was, you know, what, this is 2002.
[17:48.040 -> 17:50.160] This is a while ago, right?
[17:50.160 -> 17:52.400] And yes, people can change and people,
[17:52.400 -> 17:54.600] hopefully he's a better person
[17:54.600 -> 17:56.040] than he was 20 something years ago,
[17:56.040 -> 17:58.820] but that's what happens when you fuck with these people.
[17:58.820 -> 18:00.160] They will dig through,
[18:00.160 -> 18:03.080] and surprisingly that's all they dug up.
[18:03.080 -> 18:03.920] You know, it's like, you know,
[18:03.920 -> 18:04.840] is there nothing else?
[18:04.840 -> 18:05.360] Because that's, that's not good. That's all they dug up. You know, it's like, you know, was there nothing else? Because
[18:05.360 -> 18:12.000] that's, that's not good. That's not good. So. But one thing I found interesting about this,
[18:12.000 -> 18:20.400] right, and don't misconstrue this as me defending his comments or whatever, but there's been no
[18:20.400 -> 18:25.480] evidence of this actually being said on the website. Like I think it was the
[18:25.480 -> 18:30.200] Times that reported it saying it was on this archived copy but when people
[18:30.200 -> 18:35.400] have gone to look for it in the archive it's not there so I've not actually seen
[18:35.400 -> 18:40.960] like photo evidence that this comment exists. I'm not saying he didn't say it
[18:40.960 -> 18:45.860] I'm just saying that it's a bit odd to me. Why not? It's not been plastered around everywhere.
[18:46.060 -> 18:46.340] No.
[18:47.700 -> 18:47.940] Yeah.
[18:47.940 -> 18:48.340] I don't know.
[18:48.660 -> 18:52.700] Anyway, it all comes down to money.
[18:52.900 -> 18:53.260] Yeah.
[18:53.560 -> 18:54.100] Boom.
[18:55.060 -> 18:55.480] Boom.
[18:55.580 -> 18:55.940] Yeah.
[18:56.300 -> 19:02.060] So I, it looks like they, they use, he's bit the hand that feeds or that the
[19:02.060 -> 19:05.640] hand that hand that feeds is bitten.
[19:05.980 -> 19:08.760] I don't know something, something's going on and they're, they're,
[19:08.800 -> 19:09.680] they're getting sick of them.
[19:11.760 -> 19:13.860] You know, but at the end of the day, you get rid of him.
[19:13.860 -> 19:14.840] Who else comes in?
[19:15.840 -> 19:16.160] No.
[19:16.220 -> 19:21.800] And F1 saying, or Liberty media or whatever saying we would, you know, maybe
[19:21.800 -> 19:31.080] not officially, but reading between the lines that we don't want you know MBS around in that position in the FIA but does F1
[19:31.080 -> 19:34.620] really have that power to turn around say we don't want that guy as the
[19:34.620 -> 19:40.240] president when the FIA are in charge of so many other you know things.
[19:40.240 -> 19:43.520] Was it you or someone else that looked up what has to happen because basically
[19:43.520 -> 19:47.200] there's like 250 something people in the FIA that have to
[19:47.800 -> 19:52.080] submit a vote of no confidence to remove him from the presidency of the FIA.
[19:52.160 -> 19:54.400] Yeah, it's a really long drawn out process.
[19:55.360 -> 19:58.160] So and anybody that's saying Flavio Briatore.
[20:00.520 -> 20:01.440] Bring it on.
[20:01.440 -> 20:05.500] He's got a long history of, you know, nothing but upstanding decisions and
[20:05.780 -> 20:09.180] keeping the sport completely, uh, out of.
[20:10.060 -> 20:11.020] Just for, yeah, nevermind.
[20:11.220 -> 20:12.140] Yeah, exactly.
[20:13.200 -> 20:13.460] Yeah.
[20:13.460 -> 20:14.520] So that's an actual word.
[20:15.740 -> 20:16.200] Thank you.
[20:16.220 -> 20:16.500] Yeah.
[20:16.500 -> 20:17.700] You rest about that.
[20:17.700 -> 20:23.820] I was like, Oh, someone, someone's just linked in the chat with a link to the
[20:23.820 -> 20:25.520] archive to say it is there.
[20:25.520 -> 20:26.520] So maybe I was wrong.
[20:26.520 -> 20:28.120] And in that case, I apologize.
[20:28.120 -> 20:32.000] But yeah, it was my impression that no one actually found it.
[20:32.000 -> 20:34.900] But yeah, anyway, moving on, sorry.
[20:34.900 -> 20:42.180] There's some reports coming out that a replacement for him would be the Motorsport UK chairman
[20:42.180 -> 20:48.880] David Richards. And you may also know that name for running ProDrive,
[20:48.880 -> 20:51.880] who do all the World Rally cars and things like that.
[20:51.880 -> 20:54.320] And also former BAR team principal, was it?
[20:54.320 -> 20:55.360] Correct, yeah.
[20:55.360 -> 20:58.640] You didn't just read that off the note, did you?
[20:58.640 -> 20:59.960] Nope, no, I knew that.
[20:59.960 -> 21:04.200] So BAR was the predecessor of Mercedes to Honda,
[21:04.200 -> 21:06.000] then BAR before that.
[21:06.000 -> 21:09.060] The old, old, going way back.
[21:09.060 -> 21:10.460] Yep.
[21:10.460 -> 21:11.300] Smug.
[21:11.300 -> 21:12.120] So there you go.
[21:12.120 -> 21:13.080] By the way.
[21:13.080 -> 21:15.000] You like, you like the notes, do you?
[21:15.000 -> 21:15.840] Yeah.
[21:15.840 -> 21:16.660] Yeah, thank you.
[21:16.660 -> 21:18.260] Thank you.
[21:18.260 -> 21:19.100] We've got a-
[21:19.100 -> 21:20.240] I think that covers all the drama,
[21:20.240 -> 21:22.000] unless there's anything that's developed
[21:22.000 -> 21:23.080] within the last 30 minutes,
[21:23.080 -> 21:24.740] which let's to be, you know,
[21:24.740 -> 21:28.480] to be honest, could be perfectly possible. Yeah, it's definitely possible. Like I think
[21:28.480 -> 21:34.000] the FIA has even put out some stuff about the new team process, which I'll go through. I've got a
[21:34.000 -> 21:36.880] article up from Sky Sports, which I just saw this on the train when I was heading in.
[21:37.680 -> 21:41.760] I've been out this afternoon, but we've got another situation that we might've seen that we
[21:41.760 -> 21:50.080] saw last year. Remember how last year, Nick DeVries basically drove for every single Mercedes team? Yes, he was hawked out quite a lot.
[21:50.640 -> 21:57.280] Yeah, well, he's Mercedes' new golden boy. So Mick Schumacher is taking up the role as Mercedes
[21:57.280 -> 22:03.680] reserve driver and Mercedes being engine supplier. They can also say, you know what?
[22:04.240 -> 22:06.080] You guys need a reserve driver,
[22:06.080 -> 22:07.880] we'll let you borrow our guy
[22:08.760 -> 22:09.760] because you're using our engines
[22:09.760 -> 22:12.240] and we're kind of a small family thing.
[22:12.240 -> 22:15.520] So Mick is also been allowed to be
[22:15.520 -> 22:19.240] the official reserve driver for McLaren.
[22:19.240 -> 22:22.520] So that's something that we saw DeVries
[22:22.520 -> 22:23.640] getting like loaned around
[22:23.640 -> 22:25.280] and Mick could be that guy next year.
[22:25.280 -> 22:29.400] And it's kind of in their interest if they've nominated reserve driver, if you
[22:29.400 -> 22:33.800] get any chance to get your reserve driver in a car, get him in a car, it doesn't
[22:33.800 -> 22:34.120] matter.
[22:34.240 -> 22:34.800] And that makes sense.
[22:34.800 -> 22:36.400] And that makes sense with degrees.
[22:36.400 -> 22:42.160] But, uh, that, that goes to show you that, you know, people criticize, for example,
[22:42.160 -> 22:46.880] Red Bull for having a sister team, which arguably there's things that you can do.
[22:46.880 -> 22:48.680] But for the most part, you really can't do much now.
[22:48.680 -> 22:50.560] A lot of that stuff is super closely policed.
[22:50.560 -> 22:53.560] What information you can share, which is basically nothing.
[22:53.800 -> 22:55.200] You can literally sell them parts.
[22:55.200 -> 22:56.960] And I think those parts should be available.
[22:56.960 -> 23:01.680] But but an engine manufacturer, on the other hand, they've got quite a few teams.
[23:01.680 -> 23:03.600] So they're like, yep, yep, yep.
[23:03.600 -> 23:04.920] You can drive. You can drive. You can drive.
[23:04.920 -> 23:05.120] So super interesting. But will we see? They've got quite a few teams, so they're like, yep, yep, yep. You can drive, you can drive, you can drive.
[23:05.120 -> 23:08.960] So super interesting, but will we see?
[23:08.960 -> 23:13.440] I wonder if that, cause Nick DeVries drove for Aston as well, didn't he?
[23:13.440 -> 23:14.440] Yeah.
[23:14.440 -> 23:15.440] Aston, Williams, Merck.
[23:15.440 -> 23:19.880] I wonder if we see any FP1 sessions with Mick this year.
[23:19.880 -> 23:26.320] Well, so the way that the FP1 young driver rules work is I think you have to do two FP1 sessions
[23:26.320 -> 23:30.160] throughout the season, or I might have lost track of how many it is, but you need to allocate two
[23:30.160 -> 23:35.680] FP1 sessions throughout the year for a young driver. Mick does not fall into that category
[23:35.680 -> 23:40.480] because he's driven a Formula One car for a season, so he's not allowed. But at the same
[23:40.480 -> 23:46.640] time last year, you saw Alfa Romeo putting Kubica in the car, wasn't it? Yeah, he clearly didn't fall short of that.
[23:46.640 -> 23:47.920] So that was outside of that allowance.
[23:47.920 -> 23:51.840] They still had to do it, but they got through with the loophole with Joe because he was a rookie still.
[23:52.880 -> 23:53.680] Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[23:53.680 -> 23:54.800] Rookie drivers done the races.
[23:54.800 -> 23:55.680] He's our race driver.
[23:55.680 -> 23:58.000] So yeah, big up.
[23:59.040 -> 24:04.320] Sadly, I think we will no longer see him because uh, all and have left Alfa Romeo.
[24:04.320 -> 24:07.000] Ooh, so that was the spot that was it the Polish sponsor backing him?
[24:07.000 -> 24:09.000] Yeah, I think they were the ones that were backing him.
[24:09.000 -> 24:11.000] But it ended up at Alfa Tauro which I thought was a bit random.
[24:11.000 -> 24:15.000] Are we going to see some red on the Alfa Tauro this year?
[24:15.000 -> 24:17.000] Possibly, maybe, yeah.
[24:17.000 -> 24:21.000] But I think Robert's turnaround said that although the sponsor's moving,
[24:21.000 -> 24:23.000] he's done now in F1.
[24:23.000 -> 24:25.960] Yeah, but what about Kubica for president?
[24:25.960 -> 24:28.320] If I or freaking said fettle man.
[24:29.000 -> 24:33.840] God look, I'm going to upset a lot of fans in there, but I don't think he's got that dog in him.
[24:35.040 -> 24:38.120] I well, he could do what he could do with Rossberg did.
[24:38.120 -> 24:40.400] Rossberg was like I'm tired of the Formula One season.
[24:40.400 -> 24:43.600] You know, it's a lot of mental work beating Lewis and equal machinery, all that.
[24:44.200 -> 24:45.120] Pat himself on the back.
[24:45.420 -> 24:49.140] And then he shows up in the paddock at every single fucking race to be on TV.
[24:49.260 -> 24:55.140] I was like, dude, get out, get out with his super antibodies.
[24:55.580 -> 24:56.620] Yeah, exactly.
[24:56.860 -> 24:57.580] Exactly.
[24:57.580 -> 25:02.520] But anyway, speaking of we talked a little bit, we, we hinted at it at the beginning.
[25:02.520 -> 25:03.900] So, uh,
[25:02.480 -> 25:11.280] We talked a little bit, we hinted at it at the beginning. So, uh, yeah, this news came out literally hours after we published the, uh, last
[25:11.280 -> 25:16.200] episode where we said we want Nico Rosberg in as the team principal for Williams.
[25:16.800 -> 25:17.160] Yeah.
[25:17.240 -> 25:22.160] But, uh, James vowels, the Mercedes strategist head, head of strategy or
[25:22.480 -> 25:26.360] principal strategist or whatever his title was, is now the team principal for Williams.
[25:26.360 -> 25:33.080] So he's gone from a engineering trackside operational role to team principal, running
[25:33.080 -> 25:37.720] a team, looking after strategic, commercial and everything else, which is a very interesting
[25:37.720 -> 25:38.720] change.
[25:38.720 -> 25:45.680] It's definitely a huge upgrade for him in terms of responsibility and everything else, but it's super
[25:45.680 -> 25:49.240] strange as a move for me, for Williams, in my opinion.
[25:50.020 -> 25:52.460] Yeah, it's, it's, it's a big step up.
[25:52.460 -> 25:57.520] And I mean, I understand why he, he took the job because I mean, I would as well,
[25:57.520 -> 26:02.900] but William strikes me as one of those places where you go from, you know, a
[26:02.900 -> 26:08.520] hero or zero and, uh, you know, we saw it with, um, what's his name?
[26:08.520 -> 26:08.960] Paddy.
[26:09.720 -> 26:10.000] Yeah.
[26:10.080 -> 26:10.920] From Mercedes.
[26:10.920 -> 26:14.360] He went to Williams and then he got booted out after that really awkward
[26:14.360 -> 26:17.440] conversation he had with, was it Claire Williams in drive to survive?
[26:17.440 -> 26:18.080] Do you remember that?
[26:18.400 -> 26:19.360] I don't even remember that.
[26:19.360 -> 26:20.280] I didn't watch that season.
[26:20.280 -> 26:21.360] I'll go back and watch that.
[26:21.360 -> 26:22.320] That was so funny.
[26:22.720 -> 26:23.400] Oh my God.
[26:24.120 -> 26:26.080] Hey, Patty, Patty was at G2, wasn't it?
[26:26.080 -> 26:27.240] And Claire's like, yeah, you're out.
[26:27.480 -> 26:27.800] Yeah.
[26:27.800 -> 26:28.160] Yeah.
[26:28.360 -> 26:33.720] So, um, yeah, big, big, big jump for James and good luck to him.
[26:33.800 -> 26:36.640] But, um, yeah, like I say, big jump.
[26:36.680 -> 26:37.180] What do you think?
[26:37.200 -> 26:37.680] What do you think?
[26:39.280 -> 26:43.320] I don't know if he has any significant impact on that team, it will need to have
[26:43.320 -> 26:48.760] an impact on, um, the structure of the team, the entire organ engineering organization, how it
[26:48.760 -> 26:53.040] goes, because they've been on the back for a while and they need to find, they
[26:53.040 -> 26:54.600] need to bridge the performance gap.
[26:54.940 -> 26:57.280] And that's going to come from money and it's going to come from
[26:57.280 -> 26:58.880] people and processes and tools.
[26:59.880 -> 27:00.920] So is he the right dude?
[27:00.920 -> 27:01.680] I have no idea.
[27:01.840 -> 27:02.460] Is he the wrong dude?
[27:02.480 -> 27:07.880] I don't, I don't think so. But that's super interesting as an appointment.
[27:07.880 -> 27:12.000] Are you ready for our first Baseless Conspiracy Theory of the episode?
[27:12.000 -> 27:13.320] Yeah, go on.
[27:13.320 -> 27:17.400] That I've believed that James has gone to Williams to build up some experience so he
[27:17.400 -> 27:21.400] can come back to Mercedes when Toto retires.
[27:21.400 -> 27:25.240] Has Toto expressed any interest or like retirement plans?
[27:25.240 -> 27:26.240] Has that even been mentioned?
[27:26.240 -> 27:28.760] I don't think so, but he's not getting any younger.
[27:28.760 -> 27:31.360] How old is Toto?
[27:31.360 -> 27:33.720] Toto is not a spring chicken, is he?
[27:33.720 -> 27:34.720] Let's have a look.
[27:34.720 -> 27:37.200] Toto, how old are you, son?
[27:37.200 -> 27:38.200] You are...
[27:38.200 -> 27:39.200] He's not 60.
[27:39.200 -> 27:40.200] He's...
[27:40.200 -> 27:41.200] No, he's 51.
[27:41.200 -> 27:43.800] Okay, so I guess he's got a while in him.
[27:43.800 -> 27:46.200] Yeah, he's got plenty of time left.
[27:46.200 -> 27:47.200] Yeah.
[27:47.200 -> 27:49.080] Well, I'm going to be right.
[27:49.080 -> 27:50.240] Baseless conspiracy.
[27:50.240 -> 27:52.720] I think that's probably not stupid at the same time.
[27:52.720 -> 27:54.760] Like yeah.
[27:54.760 -> 27:57.520] So Mercedes isn't going to replace him.
[27:57.520 -> 28:01.380] And Wolf says the team basically has enough, enough depth and breadth in their strategy
[28:01.380 -> 28:05.400] and operations department that they don't need to replace
[28:05.400 -> 28:06.400] him.
[28:06.400 -> 28:10.520] So there's also people mentioning that he probably had a lot more of a role other than
[28:10.520 -> 28:15.520] just strategy and operation, but I haven't seen that in the past.
[28:15.520 -> 28:18.560] So I don't, and I can't speak for that team because I don't know how their, their technical
[28:18.560 -> 28:22.820] structure works at the track, but that's an interesting one to have somebody that does
[28:22.820 -> 28:25.120] strategy and
[28:30.460 -> 28:36.200] Operation performance in in one person, but I can see how that would work. Maybe I've just never seen it So yeah, and in regards to like you say wolf saying the team's gonna rely on their existing group
[28:36.200 -> 28:42.080] Apparently James hasn't been doing that job for the last six months. Anyway, so I don't know maybe if he I
[28:43.240 -> 28:47.120] Mean, maybe did he sneakily stick his notice in halfway
[28:47.120 -> 28:48.120] through last season?
[28:48.120 -> 28:49.120] I don't know.
[28:49.120 -> 28:53.940] And yeah, and they haven't, one thing that I saw was fucking hilarious on, on, on Twitter
[28:53.940 -> 28:59.800] was, uh, the, the, the toxic part of some fan bases were like, yeah, good riddance.
[28:59.800 -> 29:00.800] Yeah.
[29:00.800 -> 29:03.560] He was, you know, scapegoating him for a bad year.
[29:03.560 -> 29:07.580] I'm like, get a reality check, man, get a reality check.
[29:07.580 -> 29:11.700] But, uh, you know, they're like literally as soon as somebody leaves, they're dead to them.
[29:12.480 -> 29:16.380] But, um, hopefully, hopefully he does well for the team because they need, they need some help.
[29:16.920 -> 29:17.340] Yeah.
[29:17.460 -> 29:21.180] And those toxic people, they either need to touch grass or smoke it.
[29:21.900 -> 29:22.300] Hmm.
[29:22.940 -> 29:24.300] Oh, both or both.
[29:24.360 -> 29:24.660] Yeah.
[29:27.720 -> 29:28.160] I get it. I get it. Hmm. Oh, both or both. Yeah. I get it.
[29:28.680 -> 29:29.080] I get it.
[29:29.320 -> 29:29.800] You know what?
[29:30.000 -> 29:33.760] Um, I think we were hitting about the middle of the episode, dude.
[29:33.760 -> 29:34.320] What are you saying?
[29:35.080 -> 29:39.440] Uh, would you like some, uh, prime lined up advertisement?
[29:40.200 -> 29:40.600] Oh yeah.
[29:40.920 -> 29:41.320] Oh yeah.
[29:42.040 -> 29:42.880] You ready for me?
[29:43.400 -> 29:43.760] Yeah.
[29:43.840 -> 29:48.000] Guys, uh, hang tight. We'll be right back after a word from our friends
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[32:07.000 -> 32:08.000] Right. So we've got valves moving. What else?
[32:08.000 -> 32:13.880] We got some, DeVries is in potentially a little bit of trouble.
[32:13.880 -> 32:17.200] This is not usually something we talk about, but we saw it come up and it's like, that's
[32:17.200 -> 32:19.760] interesting, but it's racing.
[32:19.760 -> 32:21.440] So it's interesting.
[32:21.440 -> 32:26.240] It's interesting, but it's also a very common scenario. So,
[32:27.120 -> 32:32.320] Nick De Vries is currently under a lawsuit, or is facing a lawsuit, should I say, because
[32:33.840 -> 32:38.320] a Dutch real estate magnate, and I did have his name written down, but I can't remember
[32:38.320 -> 32:44.720] where it was now, and I cannot pronounce it, but he basically loaned Nick 250,000 euros
[32:48.720 -> 32:53.740] it. But he basically loaned Nick 250,000 euros to support his junior career. Now the issue apparently is that the Alpha Taui driver withheld information and
[32:53.740 -> 32:59.920] breached agreements relating to the loan agreement from 2018. So the loan
[32:59.920 -> 33:05.460] agreement came with 3% interest per year, which Nick has been paying,
[33:05.460 -> 33:10.440] apparently, that's fine, and it also comes with a cut of future income from F1
[33:10.440 -> 33:15.360] activities, which I believe someone said it's up to like 50% which is pretty wild.
[33:15.360 -> 33:28.360] Like 50% of your income as an F1 driver. Ouch. But it was stated that the loan would be waived if De Vries doesn't
[33:28.360 -> 33:35.440] have an F1 seat in 2022. Now the issues come about where they're saying well
[33:35.440 -> 33:40.440] actually you did have an F1 seat in 2022 because you were a reserve driver you
[33:40.440 -> 33:46.400] did the, who did you, was it Aston Martin?
[33:46.400 -> 33:52.120] Yeah, he did a race in the Aston. And then the Williams as well didn't he? Yeah.
[33:52.120 -> 33:57.440] Was it an FP session? Anyway, whatever. He drove the Williams and in. Yeah, he
[33:57.440 -> 34:01.800] scored. Yeah, because he scored the point didn't he or whatever. Yeah, and Ben Latifi, poor lad.
[34:01.800 -> 34:06.240] Oh, sorry. I choked, that's how surprised I was.
[34:07.120 -> 34:11.600] How can you say negative things about my Latifi, I can't believe it.
[34:11.600 -> 34:12.000] My bad.
[34:13.280 -> 34:15.520] But yeah, so basically they're arguing, well that is a seat,
[34:16.560 -> 34:20.640] so you owe us 50% of whatever you made last year or whatever, I don't know.
[34:22.640 -> 34:25.120] But what I'm saying is fairly common
[34:25.120 -> 34:27.380] is that a lot of the young drivers
[34:27.380 -> 34:29.780] take these sorts of deals and things like that
[34:29.780 -> 34:34.300] to get into the categories and things like that.
[34:34.300 -> 34:36.600] And the chap that is,
[34:36.600 -> 34:38.580] or who did loan this to DeVries
[34:38.580 -> 34:43.220] apparently also did the same with Van der Garde.
[34:43.220 -> 34:44.380] Really, Guido?
[34:44.380 -> 34:45.160] Yeah, apparently.
[34:45.440 -> 34:45.840] Ooh.
[34:47.640 -> 34:48.040] Oh yeah.
[34:48.040 -> 34:48.560] There you go.
[34:49.560 -> 34:51.280] But, um, that's sketchy, man.
[34:51.360 -> 34:53.920] We're going to find out more about this in February, apparently.
[34:54.920 -> 34:55.280] Okay.
[34:56.400 -> 34:59.400] That's, and that's, I think those are some sketchy deals.
[34:59.400 -> 35:01.040] These dudes are doing just to get a seat.
[35:01.040 -> 35:02.720] Cause like it costs a lot of money.
[35:04.840 -> 35:05.840] Hmm. You had to come to me just as I was it costs a lot of money.
[35:08.960 -> 35:15.360] You had to come to me just as I was taking a sip of my drink didn't you thank you. Yeah yeah I saw that sorry I was I was looking at something else for a minute but my bad my bad.
[35:17.200 -> 35:22.240] Yeah yes so it's expensive and like I say a lot of drivers do this sort of weird thing.
[35:23.840 -> 35:29.200] Yeah yeah exactly so let's let's talk about launch season is, is upon us.
[35:29.200 -> 35:29.960] It's happening.
[35:30.240 -> 35:36.880] We've had the HASS revealed, uh, yesterday, two days ago, uh, featuring a black
[35:36.920 -> 35:40.520] livery and, uh, it was, it was a little bit different and we'll, we'll talk about
[35:40.520 -> 35:43.400] the difference between a car reveal and the liver reveal, what it used to be and
[35:43.400 -> 35:48.040] what it is now, but, um, it was just it was just they just everybody I was watching some live streams.
[35:48.040 -> 35:50.400] I was I was watching Formula Racers stream and.
[35:51.640 -> 35:54.640] It's just everybody's refreshing Twitter like that's it.
[35:55.000 -> 35:56.800] Yeah, it was a pretty low key affair, wasn't it?
[35:56.800 -> 36:05.280] Really? It was just like we're going to put some photos of it on our social medias and renders, some renders, even not even real photos.
[36:05.280 -> 36:07.560] No, but it's like, no, no, no, no.
[36:07.560 -> 36:08.440] It would have been renders.
[36:08.440 -> 36:08.720] Yeah.
[36:09.240 -> 36:09.520] Yeah.
[36:09.520 -> 36:12.840] So it's like, it's like another thing and it's like, okay, so here's some renders.
[36:13.080 -> 36:14.560] I that's awesome.
[36:14.560 -> 36:17.040] Cause hopefully they're saving that money to put in some parts for this year.
[36:17.040 -> 36:20.160] Cause if they're not on the cap, they're, they're saving some money on that.
[36:20.200 -> 36:23.000] All that divert that money from those marketing activities,
[36:23.240 -> 36:24.400] dump that into performance.
[36:24.720 -> 36:27.520] And hopefully they can do better than I've predicted
[36:27.520 -> 36:28.600] in my video that's coming out.
[36:28.720 -> 36:32.200] Okay. Well, apparently they reckon this money, Graham money,
[36:32.200 -> 36:35.200] their new sort of title sponsor is going to bring out to the budget cap.
[36:35.760 -> 36:38.600] Did you see the photo? If you look at the top of the car on the roll hoop,
[36:38.600 -> 36:41.280] like the fin on the engine cover, it looks like the old Uno Reverso.
[36:41.600 -> 36:43.560] Some people also said, I forget who it was,
[36:43.840 -> 36:45.720] but they said it was an homage to a massive
[36:45.720 -> 36:46.720] spin.
[36:46.720 -> 36:47.720] Yeah.
[36:47.720 -> 36:48.720] It looks like two arrows rotating.
[36:48.720 -> 36:49.720] Yeah.
[36:49.720 -> 36:50.720] That's what I was going with.
[36:50.720 -> 36:53.440] It looks like a, basically a spinning circle and I was like, Oh yeah, they've given a little,
[36:53.440 -> 36:55.440] a little shout out to Nikita.
[36:55.440 -> 36:56.440] Good.
[36:56.440 -> 36:57.440] Good.
[36:57.440 -> 37:01.700] So the, um, the next, the next three that we've got, so has revealed Red Bulls revealing
[37:01.700 -> 37:04.240] Friday the third, which is today, right.
[37:04.240 -> 37:09.600] Or tomorrow, right now, or today when you're listening to this, uh, Williams next Monday
[37:09.600 -> 37:12.280] online, uh, Alfa Romeo the seventh.
[37:12.280 -> 37:13.280] And then we got Alpine.
[37:13.280 -> 37:16.280] We'll be doing those last on the 16th.
[37:16.280 -> 37:19.480] But so you've, you've been around for a while.
[37:19.480 -> 37:20.680] I've been around for a while.
[37:20.680 -> 37:26.960] I remember in 2000 and I think it was 12 with the force India. The reveal of the car was
[37:26.960 -> 37:33.280] there with like sky or BBC or something. And it was the actual car and it was revealed on the
[37:33.280 -> 37:36.560] shakedown day. So we're at Silverstone. They've got lighting and they're doing a bunch of beauty
[37:36.560 -> 37:42.480] shots. The car rocks up from the assembly base across the street at the factory late.
[37:42.480 -> 37:47.560] You know, it's like the, the, the TV crew, the TV crews are waiting for it.
[37:47.560 -> 37:48.760] You know, the, the, the photographers
[37:48.760 -> 37:49.800] wouldn't take all the stills.
[37:49.800 -> 37:51.440] Cause they're using all the promo images
[37:51.880 -> 37:53.040] and that's how it used to work.
[37:53.080 -> 37:55.120] You know, your last minute, last minute,
[37:55.120 -> 37:57.760] rolling it out, um, firing the thing,
[37:57.880 -> 37:59.320] you fired the thing up, you bolted the
[37:59.320 -> 38:00.880] body, we're gone, roll it over, take some
[38:00.880 -> 38:03.440] photos, the TV crew shoots some stuff
[38:03.440 -> 38:07.200] around it, and then it goes out on the track to do its install app is a shakedown, which
[38:07.200 -> 38:11.520] you get some filming days and you get up to a hundred kilometers of filming.
[38:12.400 -> 38:16.280] So that's what it used to be like, but now like all the reveals last year.
[38:17.880 -> 38:22.360] It was a FIA model show car with deliveries on it.
[38:22.760 -> 38:23.400] It is a bit weird.
[38:23.640 -> 38:25.000] Last year I can kind of get
[38:25.000 -> 38:27.640] because it was the first season of regulations.
[38:27.640 -> 38:28.560] Yeah.
[38:28.560 -> 38:30.960] But yeah, I'm not sure,
[38:30.960 -> 38:34.080] like going down this avenue of it all just being renders
[38:34.080 -> 38:36.620] and you know, images,
[38:36.620 -> 38:40.280] because another thing people have to bear in mind as well,
[38:40.280 -> 38:41.920] and I can say this from experience,
[38:41.920 -> 38:45.360] is that when you take photos of the new car,
[38:45.360 -> 38:50.400] believe you and me, the photographer has to sit down with the designers
[38:50.400 -> 38:53.920] and they say to them, right, which bits do you want photoshopped to look different
[38:53.920 -> 38:57.280] or which bits do you want darkened out so you can't see it.
[38:57.280 -> 39:01.680] So yeah, it's, you never really see the real car until it hits the track.
[39:01.680 -> 39:04.480] And then even then, like Mercedes did last year, you don't,
[39:04.480 -> 39:06.400] they left it until the second part of the test to show you the actual real car until it hits the track. And then even then, like Mercedes did last year, you don't, they left it until the second part of the test
[39:06.400 -> 39:08.000] to show you the actual real car.
[39:08.880 -> 39:09.720] Yeah.
[39:09.720 -> 39:10.560] So yeah.
[39:10.560 -> 39:11.640] That's an interesting thing though,
[39:11.640 -> 39:13.720] but right now what we're having last year,
[39:13.720 -> 39:16.500] especially in years past, we're having livery reveals.
[39:16.500 -> 39:17.920] We're not really having car reveals.
[39:17.920 -> 39:19.380] You know, you're not seeing anything.
[39:19.380 -> 39:21.240] And another interesting thing to think about
[39:21.240 -> 39:24.280] in terms of the time cycle of a Formula One car development,
[39:24.280 -> 39:31.040] the winter testing car, the winter testing car was like months ago. You know, it's already
[39:31.040 -> 39:35.280] developed. It's being designed, developed. The winter testing car is there. They've got
[39:35.280 -> 39:41.560] a car that they're going to rock up with testing, and they've already got the upgrades for race
[39:41.560 -> 39:44.880] one, which is the week later. So, you know, you've got your winter testing bits, you've
[39:44.880 -> 39:46.280] got some bits and pieces for mitigating against different things. the week later. So, you know, you've got your winter testing bits, you've got some bits and pieces
[39:46.280 -> 39:48.220] for mitigating against different things.
[39:48.220 -> 39:52.440] Then you've also got the race one spec car,
[39:52.440 -> 39:53.580] which is a super normal thing.
[39:53.580 -> 39:55.660] And maybe teams won't be doing that now
[39:55.660 -> 39:58.120] because this year we've only got one winter test.
[39:58.120 -> 40:00.000] We've got one three-day test.
[40:00.000 -> 40:02.720] I remember when you had three three-day tests,
[40:02.720 -> 40:07.000] like back in 2012, 13, you know, that was, you'd go something like
[40:07.000 -> 40:10.000] Barcelona, Barcelona, Bahrain,
[40:10.000 -> 40:12.640] and there was two, like one, it was Bahrain, Bahrain,
[40:12.640 -> 40:13.760] Barcelona, or something like that.
[40:13.760 -> 40:16.080] And it was absolutely freaking crazy.
[40:16.080 -> 40:20.560] But yeah, that's, it's different now.
[40:20.560 -> 40:23.880] And the cars this year are just an evolution of last year.
[40:23.880 -> 40:25.680] There's no major changes i think
[40:25.680 -> 40:29.600] we've got pirelli's bringing a new front tire which should have a little bit more front end
[40:30.320 -> 40:37.520] um we'll see and then they've made some changes to the floor uh to mitigate against the porpoising
[40:37.520 -> 40:42.400] issues and make them not let people push the floors as hard where they were getting unstable
[40:42.400 -> 40:46.000] yeah the edges of the floor have been raised by 10 mil, I believe.
[40:47.900 -> 40:49.300] I think it was the official stat.
[40:49.800 -> 40:53.500] Yeah, so a little bit more of the anti-purposing stuff, but
[40:53.500 -> 40:55.900] realistically, these cars are just an evolution of the last one.
[40:55.900 -> 40:58.800] Like I think a lot of teams are using the same chassis as well.
[40:59.100 -> 41:03.100] You know, the chassis, survival cell structure, and then you
[41:03.100 -> 41:06.200] kind of bolt on the body work and fairings and stuff and
[41:06.200 -> 41:07.320] everything else bolts onto that.
[41:07.320 -> 41:10.280] But I'm pretty sure a lot of teams using the exact same chassis this
[41:10.280 -> 41:11.760] year, which was part of the plan.
[41:12.120 -> 41:16.640] Well, are Red Bull going to be using the same chassis because I've heard
[41:16.640 -> 41:19.440] they're going to bring this super light one they came up with last
[41:19.440 -> 41:20.640] year, but didn't actually use.
[41:21.240 -> 41:24.160] It'll be basically the same one with modified layup.
[41:24.240 -> 41:24.760] Probably.
[41:26.400 -> 41:31.040] Does that mean it has to get crash tested again? Yeah, it will do if it's if it's structurally different.
[41:31.040 -> 41:35.260] Yeah, it'll have to be re homologated because it'll be a different spec, but it's not like
[41:35.260 -> 41:39.240] they're going to have a whole philosophy change. I don't think that could be wrong, but I think
[41:39.240 -> 41:44.640] a lot of people are doing that. Speaking of, we just had a little mention of that. The
[41:44.640 -> 41:48.440] rumor mill is turning very heavily that another American company
[41:48.440 -> 41:49.800] might be entering the sport again.
[41:51.520 -> 41:52.120] Who's that?
[41:53.440 -> 41:54.120] Ford.
[41:54.840 -> 41:57.080] Oh, Ford.
[41:57.120 -> 42:10.400] I don't really know how to, I'm sorry, but I am underwhelmed by the prospect of a Red Bull EcoBoost RB19. Does not fill me with
[42:10.400 -> 42:19.600] joy. Yeah I don't know about that but I drive a Ford. I got the Ford Transit Texas Edition man.
[42:21.440 -> 42:26.440] Give it the full title. Ford Transit Custom Texas Edition if Give it the full title. You know. Ford Transit Custom Texas Edition.
[42:26.440 -> 42:28.800] If the vans are rocking, don't come a knocking edition.
[42:28.800 -> 42:29.920] You know what I'm saying?
[42:29.920 -> 42:32.880] How many of them are in the UK, Blake?
[42:32.880 -> 42:34.200] Cause you always like to get that in there.
[42:34.200 -> 42:35.040] Just the one.
[42:35.040 -> 42:35.860] It's the only one.
[42:35.860 -> 42:37.280] It's mine.
[42:37.280 -> 42:38.380] Look at that.
[42:38.380 -> 42:39.760] One of one.
[42:39.760 -> 42:40.600] Yeah.
[42:40.600 -> 42:42.080] So, I mean, rumors,
[42:42.080 -> 42:43.960] and there's a lot of people talking about this.
[42:43.960 -> 42:46.960] A lot of people talking about this, that Ford and Red Bull are partnering up
[42:47.680 -> 42:51.440] on their engine effectively to bring in Ford.
[42:51.440 -> 42:53.680] But how does all of this work with?
[42:55.120 -> 42:58.800] Red Bull powertrains, Ford, what are they licensing?
[42:58.800 -> 43:02.640] I mean, this will likely be for the 2026 onwards engine technology.
[43:03.280 -> 43:05.200] Just Ford have some,
[43:05.200 -> 43:06.600] you know, battery technology
[43:06.600 -> 43:08.560] that they're bringing to the table.
[43:08.560 -> 43:09.360] Now, I do not.
[43:09.360 -> 43:11.760] I do. I'm currently I do not know.
[43:11.760 -> 43:12.840] I'd love to speak to somebody
[43:12.840 -> 43:13.680] that knows more about that.
[43:13.680 -> 43:14.600] And maybe we'll find somebody
[43:14.600 -> 43:16.120] that's done a bit more research
[43:16.120 -> 43:17.600] than we have about
[43:17.600 -> 43:19.360] what what Ford bring to the table
[43:19.360 -> 43:21.480] technically, or is it a commercial deal
[43:21.480 -> 43:22.240] entirely?
[43:22.240 -> 43:24.440] Us and research do not go together.
[43:26.000 -> 43:28.000] Now we do it sometimes. Yeah, sometimes, but
[43:28.000 -> 43:30.000] apparently
[43:30.000 -> 43:32.000] this has all come about because
[43:32.000 -> 43:34.000] a load of influencers
[43:34.000 -> 43:36.000] for Ford have been invited to the launch
[43:36.000 -> 43:38.000] at
[43:38.000 -> 43:40.000] Red Bull in New York.
[43:40.000 -> 43:42.000] New York!
[43:42.000 -> 43:44.000] Never been to New York.
[43:44.000 -> 43:47.200] I've been once. So Red Bull are revealing in New York today, tomorrow, we're
[43:47.200 -> 43:48.080] going to be listening to this.
[43:48.080 -> 43:52.360] And then Alpha Tauri are revealing basically a week later in New York as well.
[43:52.360 -> 43:54.120] At is it fashion week as well.
[43:54.560 -> 43:56.760] And Alpha Tauri being a clothing brand.
[43:56.960 -> 43:57.340] Fine.
[43:57.560 -> 43:58.600] I still can't get out of my head.
[43:58.600 -> 44:00.240] It's for Alpha Tauri to do that.
[44:00.280 -> 44:00.480] Yeah.
[44:00.800 -> 44:02.800] Yeah, but I can't, it doesn't make any sense to me.
[44:02.800 -> 44:05.120] Like I've got some of their clothes and they're actually really nice,
[44:05.120 -> 44:06.160] but they're super expensive.
[44:06.160 -> 44:09.560] But like when I think of Alpha Tauri, I think of race cars.
[44:09.560 -> 44:12.720] I don't think of clothing and I don't, I don't know how you go from that.
[44:12.760 -> 44:13.200] Where you.
[44:14.080 -> 44:16.760] Convince everybody that knows Alpha Tauri is a race car brand to
[44:16.760 -> 44:19.880] thinking of, you know, designer clothing.
[44:21.160 -> 44:21.520] Yeah.
[44:21.520 -> 44:29.520] I mean, as you can tell for those watching the video I'm not exactly fashion conscious but the idea of paying 600 pounds for a jacket which is
[44:29.520 -> 44:34.680] basically from a glorified Red Bull drinks company does not fill me with joy
[44:34.680 -> 44:39.720] I've got a really nice jumper from them actually I'm gonna wear it tomorrow
[44:39.720 -> 44:42.720] I guarantee you didn't pay full price for it though
[44:42.720 -> 44:44.720] I didn't pay anything for it
[44:44.720 -> 44:45.000] well there you go then see guarantee you didn't pay full price for it though. I didn't pay anything for it.
[44:45.000 -> 44:48.000] Well, there you go then, see?
[44:48.000 -> 44:52.000] But anyway, so we've got a lot of interesting stuff.
[44:52.000 -> 45:01.000] What about, what about this old gambling Twitch site sponsor of a...
[45:01.000 -> 45:04.000] Oh, Jesus Christ, Alfa Romeo, yeah.
[45:04.000 -> 45:06.160] Yeah. Oh, Jesus Christ. Alfa Romeo, yeah.
[45:06.160 -> 45:14.960] So Alfa Romeo have announced their new title partner, Stake, which is apparently a lifestyle
[45:14.960 -> 45:18.880] brand company in the press release.
[45:18.880 -> 45:32.840] But if you don't speak marketing or PR, that translates to a crypto gambling website. Nice. So, I say hilariously, but a lot of people are saying, oh, this is Rich Energy Part Two.
[45:32.840 -> 45:34.640] They could not be further from the truth, right?
[45:34.640 -> 45:37.520] Because let me tell you, I've looked into this.
[45:37.520 -> 45:44.280] Unlike Rich Energy, Stake have significantly more than 500 pounds in their bank account.
[45:44.280 -> 45:49.000] So one of the owners of Stake apparently is the youngest Australian billionaire.
[45:49.000 -> 45:54.000] I think he's like 27 or something and he bought the most expensive house in Australia.
[45:54.000 -> 45:57.000] So they've got money, they've got cash.
[45:57.000 -> 45:58.000] Somebody's got some money.
[45:58.000 -> 45:59.000] Yeah.
[45:59.000 -> 46:05.360] And they've also announced a streaming partnership with Kik.
[46:05.360 -> 46:11.120] Now, I looked into this and Kik is literally a clone of Twitch,
[46:11.120 -> 46:13.680] which is what we're recording this on now.
[46:13.680 -> 46:18.240] I've got the Kik website open and I'm struggling to see that it's not Twitch.
[46:18.240 -> 46:20.560] Everything about it is so similar.
[46:20.560 -> 46:24.160] And it's pretty interesting because Twitch recently just announced
[46:24.160 -> 46:25.560] some massive changes
[46:25.560 -> 46:27.880] to their online gambling.
[46:27.880 -> 46:34.340] So a lot of people will stream slots and other gambling things, and Twitch has clamped down
[46:34.340 -> 46:37.820] on some of those partnerships and they've regulated that a lot more.
[46:37.820 -> 46:43.960] And then Kik have basically made a Twitch clone website that is not restricted in that
[46:43.960 -> 46:45.000] sense at all.
[46:45.200 -> 46:45.560] Yeah.
[46:45.600 -> 46:50.280] So, and I'm, I go into all of this on my video that I'm doing on YouTube, but
[46:50.280 -> 46:53.720] basically, this is a plug for that engine mode 11 on YouTube.
[46:53.720 -> 46:56.680] Dan is looking at this partnership in the ins and outs of that.
[46:56.880 -> 46:57.200] Yeah.
[46:57.240 -> 46:59.040] So, and not everyone wants to watch it.
[46:59.040 -> 47:02.200] So I'm quite happy to spoil it here for you, but watch it anyway.
[47:02.200 -> 47:03.000] Cause I need the stats.
[47:03.400 -> 47:03.720] Now.
[47:06.480 -> 47:13.040] to spoil it here for you but watch it anyway because I need the stats. So Kik magically came about after this ban of gambling on Twitch which the ban came in place literally because of Stake
[47:13.920 -> 47:21.440] who were paying streamers and influencers to gamble on Twitch with money that wasn't even
[47:21.440 -> 47:25.200] theirs in the end it turned out. it turned out the balances were fake.
[47:25.200 -> 47:27.500] They were literally just like play money.
[47:28.980 -> 47:33.160] One guy from a referral code made $116 million.
[47:34.540 -> 47:36.780] So this is like, we're talking insane amounts of money
[47:36.780 -> 47:38.140] being generated from this.
[47:40.140 -> 47:42.720] And so yeah, the Kik website came about magically
[47:42.720 -> 47:45.520] like two days after it got banned from Twitch.
[47:46.720 -> 47:53.920] It's no surprise that it looks to have been built from the leaked code source of Twitch that
[47:53.920 -> 47:59.360] happened in 2021. People have dug into it and there was even some parts of the Kik website
[47:59.360 -> 48:05.080] that still referenced the name Twitch. So, right. This is hilarious.
[48:05.080 -> 48:08.420] Like this couldn't get any more sketchy.
[48:08.420 -> 48:09.720] No, and I love it.
[48:09.720 -> 48:10.840] This Kik website came about
[48:10.840 -> 48:11.840] because one of these streamers
[48:11.840 -> 48:13.440] that was doing the gambling on stream was like,
[48:13.440 -> 48:15.820] oh, I'm going to go make this website or whatever.
[48:15.820 -> 48:16.860] He came up with it.
[48:17.800 -> 48:18.840] Sort of said, oh, it's me.
[48:18.840 -> 48:21.360] I'm backed it, I've owned it, whatever.
[48:21.360 -> 48:24.000] Well, Steak accidentally forgot to update
[48:24.000 -> 48:25.980] one of their LinkedIn posts,
[48:25.980 -> 48:27.580] trying to hire people for Kick,
[48:27.580 -> 48:30.940] where they said, oh, Stake has started this new Kick
[48:30.940 -> 48:33.300] streaming company, come work for us.
[48:33.300 -> 48:35.340] And we were like, oh, okay, so Stake do own it.
[48:35.340 -> 48:37.240] Stake are paying people to play on it,
[48:39.100 -> 48:42.380] you know, with fake money in the end.
[48:44.060 -> 48:45.240] Wow.
[48:45.240 -> 48:46.160] It gets even better.
[48:46.160 -> 48:48.440] So because it's a crypto currency,
[48:48.440 -> 48:50.060] sorry, a crypto gambling firm,
[48:52.280 -> 48:56.560] they've had to license out of Curacao,
[48:56.560 -> 48:58.920] which is a small island in the Bahamas,
[48:58.920 -> 48:59.960] which isn't uncommon, right?
[48:59.960 -> 49:02.660] Lots of these gambling firms do all this sort of thing.
[49:05.400 -> 49:08.000] But they're actually based in Australia.
[49:08.000 -> 49:10.820] But because their license is held in Curacao,
[49:10.820 -> 49:13.520] and if you look up the address, it is literally a shed,
[49:14.560 -> 49:17.680] they get around the Australian online gambling casino laws
[49:17.680 -> 49:19.920] because technically they're not operating out of Australia.
[49:19.920 -> 49:21.640] They're operating out of a shed.
[49:21.640 -> 49:23.640] They're operating out of a crack den
[49:23.640 -> 49:24.760] in some beautiful island.
[49:24.760 -> 49:25.800] Yeah.
[49:25.800 -> 49:26.800] Love that.
[49:26.800 -> 49:30.720] And because of that, they got really sketching KYC laws.
[49:30.720 -> 49:32.920] So some people will know what this is about.
[49:32.920 -> 49:36.440] So KYC is know your client.
[49:36.440 -> 49:43.200] And if me or you went to a gambling website that we know, we'd have to give them like
[49:43.200 -> 49:45.000] a scan of our passport or something that
[49:45.000 -> 49:51.880] they could say with reasonable certainty that this guy is over 18 and you know he's legit.
[49:51.880 -> 49:57.360] Well on the kick website there are literally people on YouTube speed running how quickly
[49:57.360 -> 50:11.120] they can get an underage account verified and they're all doing it under a minute. So basically one guy made a pretty fake DLs or whatever, put it in that he was 12 years
[50:11.120 -> 50:16.120] old and he got some kickback because said, Oh, you know, we need to see some verification.
[50:16.120 -> 50:17.680] They didn't say you can't come in cause you're 12.
[50:17.680 -> 50:20.560] They just said, we need some verification of like photo ID.
[50:20.560 -> 50:22.640] Verify that you're a human, not Skynet.
[50:22.640 -> 50:26.240] Yeah. So he put a photo, he uploaded a photo of
[50:26.240 -> 50:33.520] Thor from the Marvel films. Um, now, you know, something is, something is ridiculous as that,
[50:34.160 -> 50:39.760] you know, you'd, you'd think would not, um, get through. Uh, no, he was verified under 40 seconds.
[50:39.760 -> 50:46.880] So yeah, nice, nice. So get your 12 year olds over. Oh my God, please not. That's, that's crazy. And
[50:46.880 -> 50:53.040] I think you owned a lot more detail on that, but that's bizarre. I mean, it's wild. I mean,
[50:53.040 -> 50:57.680] we've lost all the crypto sponsors pretty much. There's a couple of exchanges still left and some
[50:57.680 -> 51:04.640] other stuff. We're losing those like flies. Now we've got the super let your kids gamble.
[51:07.440 -> 51:15.160] now we've got the super let your kids gamble whatever is happening. Oh skirting all the money laundering laws. Oh my god. That's mental. You know they're making
[51:15.160 -> 51:20.160] bank from it and it sort of raised a bit of a dilemma, not a dilemma, but a very you
[51:20.160 -> 51:31.300] know sort of question in my head. It's like, I could come out with this YouTube video, damning stake for their shady business practices, but is what
[51:31.300 -> 51:34.640] they're doing really any different from what we've seen a whole bunch of other
[51:34.640 -> 51:35.760] F1 sponsors do?
[51:36.300 -> 51:37.040] Let's be honest.
[51:38.980 -> 51:42.300] Yeah, no, that's, that's an excellent point, but it's like, where is as
[51:42.300 -> 51:44.480] consumers of the sport, when do we care?
[51:45.440 -> 51:51.440] Yeah. excellent point but it's like where is as consumers of the sport when do we care? Yeah and what's what's it going to take for you to make an impact on sports bottom line which is
[51:51.440 -> 51:56.160] ultimately impacting these companies ability to use that platform to advertise where do you draw
[51:56.160 -> 52:06.480] the line? Yeah if we have like companies like Aramco you know they've got a lot of controversy around them, Patronus, and I'm sure there's more
[52:06.480 -> 52:11.960] than others. None of them have stopped us watching F1. Is Stake gonna stop me
[52:11.960 -> 52:16.600] watching F1? No it's not. So it's gonna be hypocritical for me to
[52:16.600 -> 52:20.680] turn around and say, oh look how big and bad and evil this company is, but I'm
[52:20.680 -> 52:27.280] still gonna watch, sort of thing you know. So it weird, isn't it? It's like, when is enough enough?
[52:27.280 -> 52:28.280] I don't know.
[52:28.280 -> 52:29.720] It's a weird line, isn't it?
[52:29.720 -> 52:35.320] Well, you should see if you can get your toddler an account on stake and then then make that
[52:35.320 -> 52:36.320] assessment.
[52:36.320 -> 52:37.320] 100% 100% Yes, sorry.
[52:37.320 -> 52:38.320] Sorry, love.
[52:38.320 -> 52:39.320] The kiddo lost all our cash.
[52:39.320 -> 52:40.320] Yeah, we have to.
[52:40.320 -> 52:46.720] We have to, you know, work, live out of a box now.
[52:47.280 -> 52:51.680] Yeah that's fine. But do you want some live breaking news while we're doing this? Yeah go on.
[52:52.480 -> 52:58.480] Apparently Andrew Benson has leaked that the four tie up with Red Bull for 2026 is happening.
[52:58.480 -> 53:04.720] It's done. It's a done deal apparently. Who's Andrew Benson? Ah, reporter. BBC.
[53:01.000 -> 53:02.000] Apparently. Who's Andrew Benson?
[53:02.000 -> 53:03.000] No, a reporter.
[53:03.000 -> 53:04.000] BBC.
[53:04.000 -> 53:05.000] Yeah.
[53:05.000 -> 53:06.000] He said it's done.
[53:06.000 -> 53:07.000] Okay.
[53:07.000 -> 53:08.000] Well, apparently it's done.
[53:08.000 -> 53:09.000] Breaking.
[53:09.000 -> 53:10.000] Let's have a look.
[53:10.000 -> 53:11.000] He's literally just tweeted.
[53:11.000 -> 53:12.000] Red Bull's prospective, fuck's sake, Red Bull's prospective engine deal with Ford has leaked
[53:12.000 -> 53:13.000] in the Italian media.
[53:13.000 -> 53:14.000] The two will join forces as partners for the 2026 engine regulations.
[53:14.000 -> 53:15.000] Red Bull's 2020 free season launches in New York on Friday and the two will join forces
[53:15.000 -> 53:16.000] as partners for the 2026 engine regulations.
[53:16.000 -> 53:17.000] Red Bull's 2020 free season launches in New York on Friday and the two will join forces
[53:17.000 -> 53:18.000] as partners for the 2026 engine regulations.
[53:18.000 -> 53:19.000] Red Bull's 2020 free season launches in New York on Friday and the two will join forces
[53:19.000 -> 53:20.000] as partners for the 2026 engine regulations.
[53:20.000 -> 53:21.000] Red Bull's 2020 free season launches in New York on Friday and the two will join forces
[53:21.000 -> 53:22.000] as partners for the 2026 engine regulations.
[53:22.000 -> 53:23.000] Red Bull's 2020 free season launches in New York on Friday and the two will join forces
[53:23.000 -> 53:24.000] as partners for the 2026 engine regulations.
[53:24.000 -> 53:25.200] Red Bull's 2020 free season launches in New York on Friday and the two will join forces as partners for the 2026 engine regulations. Red Bull's 2020 free season launches in New York on Friday and the two will join forces as partners for the 2026 engine regulations. Red Bull's 2020 free season launches in New York on Friday and the two will join forces as partners for the 2026 engine regulations.
[53:26.320 -> 53:31.920] Red Bull's 2020 free season launches in New York on Friday, no comment from Red Bull. There you go.
[53:31.920 -> 53:37.680] So why is it always the Italian media leaks and all this stuff? Where are the leaks in the Italian
[53:37.680 -> 53:46.800] media? Find me the leaky holes. What have they got on people to get this info? Yeah, it's like, right. Well, that prize winning horse that you have, it's going to.
[53:48.420 -> 53:48.760] You know.
[53:50.880 -> 53:53.300] The Italian mafia apparently is what people are saying.
[53:53.880 -> 53:54.180] Yeah.
[53:54.420 -> 53:57.220] Anyway, we've got this is some other news from today.
[53:57.220 -> 53:58.180] You want to shift gears a little bit?
[53:58.220 -> 53:58.560] Sure.
[53:58.560 -> 53:58.880] Go.
[53:59.060 -> 53:59.980] Oh my gosh.
[53:59.980 -> 54:06.460] So the FIA officially launches an application process for prospective Formula One teams.
[54:06.460 -> 54:07.360] So it's happening.
[54:09.380 -> 54:10.620] I'm gonna paraphrase what I've read,
[54:10.620 -> 54:14.140] but FIA President Mohammed bin Saliham said,
[54:14.140 -> 54:16.100] quote, the growth and appeal
[54:16.100 -> 54:18.260] of the FIA Formula One World Championship
[54:18.260 -> 54:20.240] is at unprecedented levels.
[54:20.240 -> 54:21.160] Is he allowed to say that?
[54:21.160 -> 54:22.940] And then I, that's me.
[54:22.940 -> 54:25.200] Then the FIA believes the conditions are right
[54:25.200 -> 54:26.520] for interested parties,
[54:26.520 -> 54:28.480] which meet the selection criteria
[54:28.480 -> 54:31.280] to express formal interest in entering the championship.
[54:32.300 -> 54:34.980] For the first time ever as a part of selection conditions,
[54:34.980 -> 54:36.720] we are requesting that the candidates set out
[54:36.720 -> 54:39.680] how they would meet the FIA's sustainability benchmarks
[54:39.680 -> 54:42.360] and how they would make a positive societal impact
[54:42.360 -> 54:43.360] through sport.
[54:43.360 -> 54:48.760] The process is a logical extension of the positive acceptance of the FIA's 2026 F1
[54:48.760 -> 54:53.080] power unit regulations from engine manufacturers, which has attracted Audi to Formula One and
[54:53.080 -> 54:56.600] created interest among other potential entrants."
[54:56.600 -> 54:59.400] So that's the quote, and they've opened the tender.
[54:59.400 -> 55:04.120] From what I've read, it looks like they're looking for up to two new teams.
[55:04.120 -> 55:06.880] I think there's probably two that we've heard of
[55:06.880 -> 55:08.720] that we mentioned in last week.
[55:08.720 -> 55:12.060] So there's Andretti Cadillac, which are the biggest one.
[55:12.060 -> 55:14.880] There's Panthera Asia, I believe.
[55:14.880 -> 55:18.000] And I think there's maybe one other team floating around
[55:18.000 -> 55:21.320] that's probably not being talked about.
[55:22.320 -> 55:24.040] So there's a couple teams out there.
[55:24.040 -> 55:25.540] But so they're gonna ask them
[55:25.540 -> 55:27.100] to pass the sustainability benchmarks
[55:27.100 -> 55:29.760] and how they would make a positive societal impact
[55:29.760 -> 55:31.420] through sport or any of the other teams
[55:31.420 -> 55:32.960] gonna have to do that.
[55:32.960 -> 55:35.400] Say, hey, what do you guys bring to society?
[55:36.360 -> 55:37.600] Gambling.
[55:37.600 -> 55:38.760] Okay, cool.
[55:38.760 -> 55:39.600] You're in.
[55:39.600 -> 55:41.840] Yeah, you're in, but only for minors, right?
[55:41.840 -> 55:42.680] Yeah, definitely.
[55:42.680 -> 55:44.000] Okay, cool, okay.
[55:44.000 -> 55:46.600] So the FIA are kicking that out.
[55:46.880 -> 55:50.520] So it is basically going to have to be an agreement for those teams between
[55:50.560 -> 55:54.620] FOM and the FIA to get those teams in.
[55:54.620 -> 55:57.360] So the FIA will be a part of launching those.
[55:58.400 -> 55:59.960] That'll be super interesting to see what happens.
[55:59.960 -> 56:03.200] And I think we're going to start hearing some more about that in the next two months.
[56:04.120 -> 56:09.800] Yeah. I think we're gonna start hearing some more about that in the next two months. Mm-hmm. Yeah, apparently as well I've seen that they're gonna allow F1 and
[56:09.800 -> 56:14.320] Liberty Media to have a say in new people as well, which I strongly don't
[56:14.320 -> 56:20.560] agree with. Yeah, who should have? I mean, but that's interesting you say that
[56:20.560 -> 56:26.560] though. The other side of that point is that FOM is where the money comes and goes from
[56:26.560 -> 56:32.560] so if there's money coming and going in or out of that I think they should be allowed to have a stand.
[56:33.760 -> 56:39.840] You think? Well is it because... I think all it should come down to is if they can pay they can play.
[56:41.440 -> 56:49.720] Yeah exactly I think they should be able to play and demonstrate that they're going to be here in four years. They're not just going to disappear however long. So it looks
[56:49.720 -> 56:56.100] like the tender is joining from 2025. But again, somebody in the stream said the exact
[56:56.100 -> 57:00.040] same thing. It's like, why would you join for the last year of these regulations and
[57:00.040 -> 57:04.320] then go into that? And I get that if maybe somebody wants to do that. But I think a lot
[57:04.320 -> 57:06.640] of people are going to be hedging their bets
[57:06.640 -> 57:08.160] and focusing on 2026
[57:08.160 -> 57:10.160] when we have the new engine regulations.
[57:11.200 -> 57:12.520] Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[57:12.520 -> 57:14.280] Why would you come in before?
[57:14.280 -> 57:15.360] I don't know, I don't know.
[57:15.360 -> 57:17.720] You might be able to register as an F1 team before,
[57:17.720 -> 57:20.080] so then you can spend that year building up
[57:20.080 -> 57:21.140] or whatever, maybe.
[57:23.040 -> 57:25.400] I don't know if maybe it's a thing where if
[57:25.400 -> 57:27.840] you register for 2026, you're actually not allowed to start
[57:27.840 -> 57:30.800] until January 1st, 2060, maybe something weird like that.
[57:30.800 -> 57:31.800] I don't know. Yeah, OK.
[57:32.000 -> 57:33.800] That could be it. That could make sense.
[57:33.800 -> 57:35.520] But that's super interesting.
[57:35.520 -> 57:38.600] So we've got we've got probably potentially
[57:38.800 -> 57:40.560] sounds like it's breaking for it's coming in.
[57:40.840 -> 57:43.360] We've got Andretti and Cadillac
[57:44.040 -> 57:46.560] wanting to bring another in manufacturer,
[57:46.560 -> 57:51.840] another OEM, another American OEM into the sport. We've got three American Grands Prix.
[57:51.840 -> 57:56.720] It's starting to kind of, it's starting to make sense. The Amerification of Formula one
[57:57.680 -> 58:02.880] is among us. It's, it's happening. Uh, like it, love it, hate it, whatever. Um, yeah,
[58:02.880 -> 58:09.000] we're going to 40, 40% or whatever of our podcast downloads are American.
[58:09.000 -> 58:12.000] It's starting to make sense, like,
[58:12.000 -> 58:17.000] I think 75% of my YouTube audience is American.
[58:17.000 -> 58:19.000] It's crazy, it's crazy, it's just like,
[58:19.000 -> 58:23.000] the interest of America in Formula 1 is growing, and it's here.
[58:23.000 -> 58:25.160] So, deal with it. Deal with it's here. So. Deal with it.
[58:26.160 -> 58:27.000] Deal with it.
[58:27.000 -> 58:27.820] Love it.
[58:27.820 -> 58:28.660] Learn to love it.
[58:28.660 -> 58:30.120] Really, because it's not gonna change, is it?
[58:30.120 -> 58:31.400] So deal with it.
[58:31.400 -> 58:34.520] And Dave, who's been watching Formula One since 1990
[58:34.520 -> 58:37.940] and can't believe all these new Drive to Survive fans.
[58:37.940 -> 58:38.780] Suck it up.
[58:38.780 -> 58:39.600] Deal with it.
[58:39.600 -> 58:40.440] Yeah, suck it up, bro.
[58:40.440 -> 58:41.280] They're coming.
[58:41.280 -> 58:42.480] The influencers are coming for you.
[58:42.480 -> 58:44.280] We're gonna influence you out of your own sport
[58:44.280 -> 58:46.080] because you can't deal with new people
[58:46.080 -> 58:47.580] and new ideas coming in.
[58:47.580 -> 58:51.220] If Bernie Ecclestone was still running the Formula One,
[58:51.220 -> 58:52.460] the sport would be in shambles.
[58:52.460 -> 58:54.840] He'd be had, Lewis Hamilton would be banned and fined
[58:54.840 -> 58:55.960] because he's taking pictures
[58:55.960 -> 58:58.040] and putting them on Instagram in the paddock,
[58:58.040 -> 58:59.560] you know, bullshit like that.
[58:59.560 -> 59:01.920] Wouldn't take his nose ring out.
[59:01.920 -> 59:02.760] Yeah.
[59:02.760 -> 59:03.600] Fucking hell.
[59:03.600 -> 59:04.880] Anyway, I hope we don't have to,
[59:04.880 -> 59:06.000] are we gonna have to talk about that again.
[59:06.000 -> 59:12.480] I hope not. I hope that's all done and dusted. Yeah. But what do we got? I think I think
[59:12.480 -> 59:16.080] we've got we've got through a whole episode and we've hit it under an hour. Is this the
[59:16.080 -> 59:21.520] first episode where we've brought this question up at 59 minutes into the episode? I don't
[59:21.520 -> 59:31.040] know. Technically, I'm looking at the recording now and it's just about to tick over 59 30 so it might just be a smidge over an hour. That's all right but I think we've got a
[59:31.040 -> 59:36.240] lot of cool stuff coming up when's the next episode probably two weeks? Uh yeah let's get all
[59:36.240 -> 59:41.040] the launches out of the way and then we can do a sort of who do we rate and who do we hate?
[59:41.760 -> 59:47.520] I think definitely we'll do uh livery ratings I I think that'd be sick. Yeah, we'll get you guys involved and uh
[59:48.660 -> 59:53.180] We got we got to get some other stuff going. We will figure it out you guys and if you're not if you're not in the
[59:53.180 -> 59:54.540] discord
[59:54.540 -> 59:59.160] We check out our link tree or our solo to we've got links for the discord. Make sure that you're following
[01:00:00.020 -> 01:00:03.220] Break be our aka f1 on YouTube
[01:00:03.660 -> 01:00:07.340] Make sure you've checked out the live stream at twitch.tv from slash break
[01:00:07.380 -> 01:00:11.880] Make sure you're following engine mode 11 on Twitter and YouTube. I mean, come on. Come on
[01:00:11.880 -> 01:00:15.580] Do we have a fraud watch this week? Everybody's really depressed who's on fraud watch? Oh
[01:00:17.000 -> 01:00:21.380] No, man, I don't think you should be on fraud watch. Yeah, he's on fraud watch, you know
[01:00:21.380 -> 01:00:31.360] Who's actually you know, he's going on fraud watch whoever it was that started that fucking rumor that Williams and Porsche were about to link up. Oh my god anybody that was
[01:00:31.360 -> 01:00:37.440] into that, that fake blurry picture of Frank Williams or so they thought they saw Frank
[01:00:37.440 -> 01:00:41.440] Williams. You know when your dog pisses on the wall and like this is a picture of Jesus,
[01:00:41.440 -> 01:00:49.520] this is the new holy spot in my garden. Yep. Fuck off. It was someone on Reddit started that and foolishly I retweeted it.
[01:00:49.520 -> 01:00:52.480] What was that username? What was the username of that account?
[01:00:52.480 -> 01:00:58.400] Oh, Grandadfucks or something weird like that. It was, you know.
[01:00:58.400 -> 01:01:01.360] It was something raunchy to do with a grandad and it's like...
[01:01:03.440 -> 01:01:08.400] Yeah, so anyway, I am so desperate to see Porsche in F1
[01:01:08.400 -> 01:01:12.000] I took the bait like an absolute fool. You wanted to believe man
[01:01:12.000 -> 01:01:14.960] yeah I get it. And there was like this big announcement coming up on like the
[01:01:14.960 -> 01:01:19.760] Formula E Porsche Instagram and all it was is that they changed their
[01:01:19.760 -> 01:01:24.000] Instagram handle and I was fucking fuming. All this hype and all this...
[01:01:24.000 -> 01:01:25.440] You got debatedbaited!
[01:01:25.440 -> 01:01:29.840] Fucking Porsche. So yeah, I'm over- I'm over Porsche now. They can fuck off.
[01:01:29.840 -> 01:01:38.000] Yeah, you dorks. But like, to be honest, that was a self-inflicted- that was an own goal on anybody that saw that and wanted to believe that. It's an own goal.
[01:01:38.000 -> 01:01:46.920] I wanted to believe. I wanted to believe. Because unlike you uncouth Americans, right, I actually believe in high-class
[01:01:46.920 -> 01:01:51.960] engineering of cars like Porsches whereas you with your goddamn Cadillac
[01:01:51.960 -> 01:01:57.200] CTS-V bollocks or whatever it is just slap a big engine in a fucking
[01:01:57.200 -> 01:02:02.200] lard-tart fridge and hope it fucking steers. I have to say I when I was home
[01:02:02.200 -> 01:02:06.080] for Christmas I did drive a Cadillac Blackwing CT5.
[01:02:06.080 -> 01:02:09.600] 680 horsepower of pure freedom.
[01:02:09.600 -> 01:02:11.960] Oh my God, it was so much fun.
[01:02:11.960 -> 01:02:16.240] You don't know what you're missing that minivan of yours.
[01:02:16.240 -> 01:02:19.520] Smell the cheeseburgers and fucking Walmart from here.
[01:02:19.520 -> 01:02:25.480] I did go pick up some In-N-Out burgers, but I had to go to McDonald's to get some proper fries
[01:02:25.480 -> 01:02:28.840] because In-N-Outs fries are hot garbage.
[01:02:28.840 -> 01:02:33.480] American listeners, all 40, 70% of you guys, no.
[01:02:33.480 -> 01:02:35.320] You don't recommend it.
[01:02:35.320 -> 01:02:36.560] No, no, no.
[01:02:36.560 -> 01:02:39.720] You know, In-N-Outs burgers are great, but their fries are abysmal.
[01:02:39.720 -> 01:02:42.680] And people are like, yeah, but did you have the super tuned up fries?
[01:02:42.680 -> 01:02:45.060] It's like, no, it's like, that's something else.
[01:02:45.060 -> 01:02:45.920] That's not fries.
[01:02:45.940 -> 01:02:48.040] Fries need to stand on their own and in and out.
[01:02:48.040 -> 01:02:50.440] It's fries are garbage.
[01:02:51.520 -> 01:02:51.820] Yeah.
[01:02:51.820 -> 01:02:54.600] We get, uh, five guys now in the UK.
[01:02:55.000 -> 01:02:56.760] It's quite nice, but it's so expensive.
[01:02:57.000 -> 01:03:00.040] It is expensive, but it's like, here's, here's how I look at that.
[01:03:00.040 -> 01:03:01.180] And I don't know how we're still going.
[01:03:01.180 -> 01:03:04.520] So I don't know why we're talking about fast food now, but anyway,
[01:03:04.920 -> 01:03:06.200] because it's free engagement.
[01:03:06.200 -> 01:03:07.920] People love this for subscribing.
[01:03:07.920 -> 01:03:10.200] People are setting stuff on fire in the chat right now.
[01:03:10.200 -> 01:03:14.920] But in and out is a great.
[01:03:16.360 -> 01:03:18.240] Fast food burger.
[01:03:18.400 -> 01:03:21.600] Five guys is an OK, posh burger.
[01:03:23.600 -> 01:03:28.480] Simple, simple. Well, on that bombshell and revelation,
[01:03:28.480 -> 01:03:31.480] I think we should call it unless you've got anything else.
[01:03:31.480 -> 01:03:32.880] No, I've got nothing.
[01:03:32.880 -> 01:03:34.480] Sterling, if you're watching this on YouTube,
[01:03:34.480 -> 01:03:36.320] my cat is so needy right now.
[01:03:36.320 -> 01:03:37.200] It's six o'clock.
[01:03:37.200 -> 01:03:38.600] He's going to meow for the food.
[01:03:38.600 -> 01:03:42.720] But yeah, we'll see what the cats want to do with the...
[01:03:42.720 -> 01:03:45.480] I'll maybe get Barry or Sterling to rate some liveries as well. Yeah, maybe we could see what the cats want to do with the maybe get barrier sterling to rate some liveries as well.
[01:03:45.800 -> 01:03:46.040] Yeah.
[01:03:46.040 -> 01:03:49.800] Maybe we could see what my baby son does, you know, print them all out.
[01:03:50.560 -> 01:03:51.280] Yeah, exactly.
[01:03:51.280 -> 01:03:54.000] I'm all out on the floor and we'll see which one he crawls to first.
[01:03:54.440 -> 01:03:55.040] Exactly.
[01:03:55.040 -> 01:03:55.560] I love that.
[01:03:55.920 -> 01:03:56.640] That's content.
[01:03:57.000 -> 01:03:57.280] All right.
[01:03:57.680 -> 01:04:00.960] So fraudsters, I hope you guys have a great day.
[01:04:01.080 -> 01:04:02.000] Enjoy formula one.
[01:04:02.000 -> 01:04:02.480] It's back.
[01:04:02.480 -> 01:04:03.200] We're back in the swing.
[01:04:03.200 -> 01:04:03.960] We're going to be getting in.
[01:04:03.960 -> 01:04:05.000] And then once the season gets in properly after testing, I think it's weekly episodes again. day. Enjoy Formula One. It's back. We're back in the swing. We're going to be getting in.
[01:04:05.000 -> 01:04:07.520] And then once the season gets in properly after testing, I think it's weekly episodes
[01:04:07.520 -> 01:04:08.520] again.
[01:04:08.520 -> 01:04:09.520] Yeah.
[01:04:09.520 -> 01:04:10.520] Yeah.
[01:04:10.520 -> 01:04:11.520] Cool.
[01:04:11.520 -> 01:04:12.520] All right.
[01:04:12.520 -> 01:04:13.520] You guys, you guys be good.
[01:04:13.520 -> None] Fuck off.