Ep13 - Happy New... Teams?

Welcome to our first episode of 2023!

We catch up on news we've missed, try to untangle the Andretti fiasco, play Team Principal musical chairs and make some quick bold predictions for the season

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* **Introduction:**

- Season 2, Episode 13.
- Hosts: Dan (EngineNode11) and Blake (Brake).
- Discussion of Ken Block's passing and the reminder that life is short.
- Ferrari banned from engine regulations meeting due to not signing up for 2026 rule cycle.

* **News:**

- FIA bans drivers from making political statements without permission.
- New race directors for Formula 1 after this season.
- Team principal musical chairs:
- Mattia Binotto resigns from Ferrari, replaced by Frederic Vasseur from Alfa Romeo Sauber.
- Andreas Seidl leaves McLaren to join Audi Sauber.
- Andrea Stella replaces Seidl at McLaren.

* **Silly Season Predictions:**

- Bold predictions for the 2023 season:
- Ferrari will not win in 2023, they are in a transition period.
- Mercedes will win the constructors' championship.
- George Russell will win the drivers' championship.
- Fernando Alonso will retire from Formula 1 at the end of the season.
- Oscar Piastri will have a successful rookie season at McLaren.
- Nyck de Vries will score points in his first full season in Formula 1.

* **Conclusion:**

- Wrap-up of the episode and reminder to listen to the podcast on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. # Episode Summary: Engine Breaking Podcast: 2023: The Season Ahead

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* **Hosts:** Dan, Blake, and Janita

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## Key Points:

- The podcast begins with a discussion about the upcoming 2023 Formula One season and the new regulations that will be in place.
- The hosts predict that the field will collapse a bit together due to the new regulations.
- They also discuss the rumors that Stella, the new team principal of McLaren, is not confident in the performance of the new car.
- The hosts then move on to talk about the ongoing saga of Andretti's attempt to enter Formula One.
- They discuss the recent news that Andretti has partnered with Cadillac and General Motors in an effort to gain support for their bid.
- The hosts also discuss the concerns that some teams have about Andretti's entry, including the potential dilution of prize money and the lack of a clear plan for a power unit.
- The hosts then briefly discuss another team, Panfera Asia F1 Team, that is also interested in entering Formula One.
- They discuss the challenges that Panfera faces, including a lack of funding and a lack of a clear plan for a power unit.
- The hosts then move on to discuss some new segments that they plan to introduce to the podcast this season, including a "World Destructor Championship" and a revised "Fraud Watch" segment.
- The hosts conclude the podcast by discussing their plans for watch-alongs and other interactive content during the 2023 season.

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## Additional Notes:

- The hosts also discuss the recent news that Ferrari has signed a new multi-year deal with Shell.
- They also discuss the upcoming Miami Grand Prix and the changes that have been made to the track.
- The hosts also mention that they will be doing a live podcast from the Miami Grand Prix. ## Summary of the Podcast:

The podcast begins with the hosts, Dan and Alex, welcoming the audience to the first episode of the 2023 season of Engine Braking. They discuss the upcoming Formula One season, including the new car designs, launch dates, and testing schedule.

**Predictions for the 2023 Constructors' Championship:**

* Dan: Mercedes
* Alex: Red Bull

**Predictions for the 2023 Drivers' Championship:**

* Dan: George Russell
* Alex: Lewis Hamilton

**Spicy Takes:**

* Alex: Alonso will win a race this season.
* Dan: Lawrence Stroll will sack Alonso mid-season and attempt to sign Lewis Hamilton.
* Alex: Daniel Ricciardo will replace Sergio Perez at Red Bull mid-season.

**Rookies of the Year:**

* Dan: Nick DeVries
* Alex: Yuki Tsunoda

The hosts also discuss the upcoming Formula E season and their plans for the year, including Dan's New Year's resolution to learn how to cook a dish from every country that hosts a Formula One race.

## Key Insights, Perspectives, and Controversies:

* The hosts believe that Mercedes and Red Bull will be the top two teams in the Constructors' Championship, with Mercedes having a slight edge.
* Dan predicts that George Russell will win the Drivers' Championship, while Alex believes that Lewis Hamilton will win his eighth title.
* The hosts have differing opinions on who will be the top rookie of the year, with Dan favoring Nick DeVries and Alex favoring Yuki Tsunoda.
* The hosts discuss the possibility of Alonso winning a race this season, with Alex believing that it is likely and Dan being more skeptical.
* The hosts also discuss the possibility of Daniel Ricciardo replacing Sergio Perez at Red Bull mid-season, with Alex believing that it is a real possibility.

## Overall Message:

The overall message of the podcast is that the 2023 Formula One season is shaping up to be an exciting one, with many storylines to follow. The hosts provide their predictions for the season and discuss some of the key talking points heading into the new campaign.

[00:00.000 -> 00:08.640] You're listening to the most fraudulent F1 podcast with Dan, aka EngineNode11.
[00:08.640 -> 00:12.000] I secretly moonlight at the Skelwet Marko at race weekends.
[00:12.000 -> 00:14.200] And Blake, aka Brake.
[00:14.200 -> 00:17.180] Echo chambers of farts and idiots on Twitter after races.
[00:17.180 -> 00:27.080] It's the Engine Breaking F1 podcast. What an absolute jam.
[00:27.080 -> 00:30.440] Welcome back to season two of the Engine Breaking Podcast.
[00:30.440 -> 00:33.600] We've made it to unlucky episode 13.
[00:33.600 -> 00:38.600] My name is Blake, AKA Break, and this is Walter White, AKA Engine Mode 11.
[00:38.600 -> 00:42.120] And if you're watching this on YouTube, you would understand exactly what I'm talking
[00:42.120 -> 00:43.120] about.
[00:43.120 -> 00:44.120] How we doing, man?
[00:44.120 -> 00:48.680] I'm good. I was too tight to pay for a haircut so I had a cigarette and shaved
[00:48.680 -> 00:52.120] my head in the garden at the same time. That sounds good.
[00:52.120 -> 00:56.600] And then my family disowned me. That's good, well at least you didn't shave your beard again.
[00:56.600 -> 00:59.760] That's done a little bit of work. That's done a bit of work. That's coming back
[00:59.760 -> 01:07.400] nicely man. Yeah, we've got some good growth going. Maybe by the time I turn 38 next year, I'll be able to grow a beard properly.
[01:07.400 -> 01:09.400] What do you think?
[01:09.400 -> 01:10.400] We'll see.
[01:10.400 -> 01:11.400] Okay.
[01:11.400 -> 01:12.400] Okay.
[01:12.400 -> 01:18.120] Well, we kind of bailed out on our final Christmas episode because life, life came at us pretty
[01:18.120 -> 01:19.120] quick.
[01:19.120 -> 01:20.120] You were unwell.
[01:20.120 -> 01:21.120] Yeah.
[01:21.120 -> 01:25.640] So I got the weird thing that was going around about Christmas time in the UK, which
[01:25.640 -> 01:28.560] was like COVID, but not COVID.
[01:28.560 -> 01:32.360] But I'm almost certain it was COVID.
[01:32.360 -> 01:34.880] So everyone in the house got it.
[01:34.880 -> 01:36.880] And I did, we still got some tests.
[01:36.880 -> 01:40.000] So I tested everyone in the house and it was all negative.
[01:40.000 -> 01:48.280] It's a conspiracy, I tell you. And then when I felt well, you decided to go home to Texas
[01:48.560 -> 01:50.240] and catch COVID for the Vance.
[01:50.240 -> 01:53.080] Yeah, so I caught COVID, gave it to my parents
[01:53.080 -> 01:56.160] and spent the entire Christmas break at my parents' house,
[01:56.160 -> 01:58.520] in the house, and until I tested negative.
[01:58.520 -> 02:01.720] And then I got like one or two days after testing negative,
[02:01.720 -> 02:04.200] I was there for a while, and I got to go home
[02:04.200 -> 02:05.540] and finally see my brother
[02:05.540 -> 02:07.500] and his wife again, so.
[02:07.500 -> 02:09.040] The old Texas flu, that's the one.
[02:09.040 -> 02:11.040] But, you know what?
[02:11.040 -> 02:13.360] We got through 12 episodes last season.
[02:13.360 -> 02:14.820] We started quite late in the year.
[02:14.820 -> 02:16.480] And this is episode 13.
[02:16.480 -> 02:19.100] We're starting Engine Breaking Podcast season two,
[02:19.100 -> 02:22.080] and we are going to be the most fraudulent,
[02:22.080 -> 02:26.760] most terrible Formula One podcast on the internet brought to you by two former
[02:26.760 -> 02:28.480] Formula One engineers and we're so far away
[02:28.480 -> 02:30.860] from the sport now, we're completely clueless
[02:30.860 -> 02:34.160] and nobody should bet on anything we say,
[02:34.160 -> 02:36.920] but there's no other podcasts out there anyway.
[02:36.920 -> 02:38.840] Everybody else is just winging it, so so are we.
[02:38.840 -> 02:40.240] And we're having a great time this season.
[02:40.240 -> 02:43.400] We were shit when we were employed by Red Bull.
[02:43.400 -> 02:44.240] What difference does it make?
[02:44.240 -> 02:49.980] We're out, we're out, we're out in the wide, wide world of, uh, fraudulence now.
[02:49.980 -> 02:51.980] So, that's it.
[02:51.980 -> 02:53.980] What else, what else we got on the intro?
[02:53.980 -> 02:59.480] We got, we had a couple of, uh, pretty sad things happen over the, the, the break.
[02:59.480 -> 03:04.980] I remember waking up one morning to the news of Ken Block passing, and that was, that was pretty terrible, so...
[03:04.980 -> 03:07.200] That was wild and that was pretty terrible. So, I mean, that was, dude,
[03:07.200 -> 03:08.960] and I was just like, like I said,
[03:08.960 -> 03:11.120] that weekend before that, I was just watching,
[03:11.120 -> 03:12.420] I was going through all the,
[03:12.420 -> 03:13.920] the other Jim Connor and Hoonigan stuff,
[03:13.920 -> 03:18.520] and I was thinking, what a fricking awesome dude.
[03:18.520 -> 03:19.400] Yeah.
[03:19.400 -> 03:21.880] And then it's just like, what?
[03:21.880 -> 03:23.480] I think it just goes to show you,
[03:24.400 -> 03:26.200] life's short and it comes at you fast, man.
[03:26.200 -> 03:28.180] Make the most of it.
[03:28.180 -> 03:31.200] I think anyone that's probably around our age
[03:31.200 -> 03:36.200] that stuck a loud baked bean can exhaust on their car
[03:36.240 -> 03:39.740] was somehow inspired in some way or fashioned by Ken Block.
[03:39.740 -> 03:42.720] So, big up Ken.
[03:43.840 -> 03:44.680] Yeah.
[03:44.680 -> 03:45.200] Yeah. Beak yourself up. Peace, Ken. Yeah, yeah. Big yourself up.
[03:45.200 -> 03:47.400] That's some peace man.
[03:47.400 -> 03:48.400] Yep.
[03:48.400 -> 03:51.480] But there we go.
[03:51.480 -> 03:57.760] But I thought yeah that was I thought that needed a little bit of a mention.
[03:57.760 -> 03:59.760] But let's get into the news.
[03:59.760 -> 04:00.760] Let's get into the news.
[04:00.760 -> 04:02.880] What do we got?
[04:02.880 -> 04:04.480] This one's funny.
[04:04.480 -> 04:06.260] Ferrari are already banned. Ferrari are already news. What do we got? This, this, this one's funny. The Ferrari are already banned.
[04:06.580 -> 04:07.720] Friar already banned.
[04:07.720 -> 04:08.640] What happened to dude?
[04:08.740 -> 04:09.060] Yeah.
[04:09.060 -> 04:13.320] So catch this, catch this, this, this, I think went a little bit under the radar
[04:13.360 -> 04:19.080] and I'll preface this by saying, I've not seen this by in any major publications.
[04:19.080 -> 04:22.600] So we'll go with a little bit grain of salt on this one.
[04:22.780 -> 04:23.080] Okay.
[04:23.080 -> 04:26.000] So with fully fraudulent, this is completely bullshit.
[04:26.000 -> 04:32.320] This could be fully fraudulent news, but there was an engine regulations meeting in December,
[04:33.360 -> 04:39.440] and it had Audi and all the regular players there, but Ferrari were banned from going to it
[04:39.440 -> 04:47.120] because they have not signed up to the 2026 rule cycle because they're still crying about Red Bull powertrains
[04:47.120 -> 04:52.280] being treated as a new supplier, having had access to Honda's intellectual property.
[04:52.280 -> 04:53.840] So yeah, weird.
[04:53.840 -> 04:54.840] Yeah.
[04:54.840 -> 04:55.840] But hilarious.
[04:55.840 -> 04:56.840] Oh my God.
[04:56.840 -> 04:57.840] But hilarious.
[04:57.840 -> 05:07.820] Yeah, if anyone's going to get banned from an engine meeting, having it be Ferrari is frankly hilarious, given that.
[05:07.820 -> 05:10.440] We've got to see if that's true because that, that completely
[05:10.440 -> 05:12.180] like would not surprise me at all.
[05:12.480 -> 05:15.780] Um, but I mean, they got away with the fuel flow meter.
[05:15.780 -> 05:16.380] Come on.
[05:16.420 -> 05:19.300] They're like, Oh wait, you guys going to start building your own engines.
[05:19.300 -> 05:19.940] It's not like that.
[05:20.520 -> 05:23.800] Anyway, anyway, all that's pure shit.
[05:23.800 -> 05:24.260] Housery.
[05:24.300 -> 05:24.720] I love it.
[05:25.000 -> 05:28.040] Yeah. That, that did make me chuckle.
[05:28.040 -> 05:29.260] That's pretty good.
[05:29.260 -> 05:33.980] So we've had over the last season there was, you know, at the end of 2021 everything hit
[05:33.980 -> 05:35.320] the fan, right?
[05:35.320 -> 05:36.600] It was it was bad.
[05:36.600 -> 05:37.600] It was bad.
[05:37.600 -> 05:38.600] It was fraudulent.
[05:38.600 -> 05:39.600] And then.
[05:39.600 -> 05:46.360] MBS confirms there is a process underway with for new race directors in Formula 1 after
[05:46.360 -> 05:47.360] this season.
[05:47.360 -> 05:50.480] You know, we thought we were going to get a better set of race direction by having multiple
[05:50.480 -> 05:53.680] race directors, but it was kind of crap.
[05:53.680 -> 05:54.840] It was inconsistent.
[05:54.840 -> 05:56.800] It was not clear.
[05:56.800 -> 06:02.760] And then even Mr. MBS tried to throw the teams under the bus at the FIA prize giving when
[06:02.760 -> 06:04.200] he was interviewing.
[06:04.200 -> 06:05.880] How many how many tequilas is he had?
[06:05.880 -> 06:08.480] I think Checo sent him a bottle of tequila for Christmas as well.
[06:08.560 -> 06:09.920] Uh, yeah, yeah.
[06:09.920 -> 06:12.520] He was, he was very merry.
[06:15.800 -> 06:17.760] Oh, so what's, what's the deal with that?
[06:17.960 -> 06:18.760] What's the deal with that?
[06:18.760 -> 06:19.480] Oh, right.
[06:20.560 -> 06:21.240] Oh, what do we got?
[06:21.240 -> 06:21.920] Like serious.
[06:21.920 -> 06:22.880] Cause I'm clearing my throat.
[06:23.360 -> 06:23.640] Okay.
[06:23.760 -> 06:23.960] All right.
[06:23.960 -> 06:24.200] Go on.
[06:25.000 -> 06:26.000] So we had obviously our Lord and savior, Michael Massey. I mean, what do we got? I'm serious because I'm clearing my throat. Okay. All right, go on. Pick it up.
[06:26.000 -> 06:29.000] So we had obviously our Lord and Savior, Michael Massey.
[06:29.000 -> 06:30.000] RIP homie.
[06:30.000 -> 06:31.000] In 2021, yep.
[06:31.000 -> 06:32.000] Doing God's work out there.
[06:32.000 -> 06:39.400] Yeah, he was doing all he could to make sure we earned our bonus.
[06:39.400 -> 06:43.840] He then got the boot or left, whatever.
[06:43.840 -> 06:47.840] And then we were given two race directors for 2022.
[06:48.540 -> 06:51.560] So that's a hundred percent increase in race direction.
[06:51.600 -> 06:51.840] Yeah.
[06:51.840 -> 06:53.880] It was determined that, Hey, you need two people.
[06:54.320 -> 06:55.600] So they were like, okay, great.
[06:56.280 -> 07:01.080] Uh, so we got two people and they were, uh, who was it?
[07:01.080 -> 07:03.880] It was, uh, Neil, is it Niels Wittich?
[07:04.360 -> 07:06.040] And I've forgotten the other guy already.
[07:06.900 -> 07:13.360] Um, but yeah, anyway, so, uh, Wittich had a, got booted out after the Japanese
[07:13.360 -> 07:18.840] Grand Prix because of that whole Pierre Gasly and the safety tractor thing.
[07:19.400 -> 07:19.640] Oh yeah.
[07:19.640 -> 07:22.320] Well, they didn't tell anybody that there were a whole load of heavy
[07:22.320 -> 07:27.120] machinery slowly moving on the track through zero visibility.
[07:27.120 -> 07:31.040] Gas man's out there on a red flag and he hoons it past them as well.
[07:31.040 -> 07:34.360] And instead of like acknowledging that they fucked up, they tried to throw Gasly under
[07:34.360 -> 07:36.960] the radar and be like, just like, no, it was Gasly's fault.
[07:36.960 -> 07:37.960] Gasly's driving.
[07:37.960 -> 07:38.960] Yeah.
[07:38.960 -> 07:39.960] Gasly probably shouldn't have been doing that.
[07:39.960 -> 07:40.960] But anyway.
[07:40.960 -> 07:51.200] Yeah. Yeah, and then at the US Grand Prix, Wittich got basically told off because he was the
[07:51.200 -> 07:55.480] one apparently that told Haas that they could protest Alpine even though the 30 minute deadline
[07:55.480 -> 07:56.480] had come and gone.
[07:56.480 -> 07:59.160] You've got to know the rules, right?
[07:59.160 -> 08:02.200] Is there something about race directors not knowing the rules?
[08:02.200 -> 08:03.260] Yep.
[08:03.260 -> 08:06.480] So that meant that Fernando being hit with a 30 second penalty
[08:07.280 -> 08:15.440] Albin contested it, they won the contest basically the pair. What a joke. So we went from one to two
[08:16.000 -> 08:23.120] back to one mid-season and now MBS is saying oh we're going to go for two race directors again
[08:23.120 -> 08:29.300] and he said in his statement that no one is safe in their current position, so we might have two completely new directors
[08:29.960 -> 08:32.800] Wow, well like is he safe in his position?
[08:33.800 -> 08:35.720] He's got he's got some others
[08:35.720 -> 08:42.180] Which brings us nicely to our next one is MBS even safe because this dudes this dudes on one I think yeah
[08:42.180 -> 08:45.080] Well, I'm not sure we're allowed say and what we're not allowed to say
[08:45.080 -> 08:47.540] because the FIA have now also banned drivers
[08:47.540 -> 08:50.440] from making political statements without permission.
[08:50.440 -> 08:51.280] Yeah.
[08:51.280 -> 08:53.400] I'm not sure if podcasts come under that, so.
[08:53.400 -> 08:54.360] Yeah, exactly.
[08:54.360 -> 08:55.600] Well, we're gonna send it.
[08:55.600 -> 09:00.600] So please, Mr. FIA, can I talk about human rights issues?
[09:01.320 -> 09:02.160] Yeah.
[09:02.160 -> 09:03.640] You know, environmental issues?
[09:03.640 -> 09:05.560] No, no, it might offend some of the people
[09:05.560 -> 09:07.880] paying our paychecks.
[09:07.880 -> 09:11.160] All the money that's going into my pocket, not into the team's, we've got this cost cap
[09:11.160 -> 09:13.720] so I can get even more money in my pocket.
[09:13.720 -> 09:15.480] That's that's the game plan it sounds like.
[09:15.480 -> 09:20.960] Yeah, but I completely didn't realize this, but they made this rule change in the International
[09:20.960 -> 09:22.600] Sporting Code.
[09:22.600 -> 09:26.640] And that's they're the rules that govern every single series run by the FIA.
[09:26.640 -> 09:28.780] So this just isn't just an F1 thing.
[09:29.200 -> 09:29.520] No.
[09:29.520 -> 09:29.800] Okay.
[09:29.800 -> 09:31.720] This is anything that's got an FIA tag on it.
[09:32.000 -> 09:34.440] You can't do any, anything that they're not happy with.
[09:34.920 -> 09:35.680] Wow.
[09:36.760 -> 09:38.000] So, uh, yeah.
[09:38.560 -> 09:41.160] So, but I mean, like, let's, let's, let's put that in context.
[09:41.600 -> 09:46.020] The only two people that I'm familiar with hearing making statements on topics
[09:46.020 -> 09:49.440] that they believe strongly in is Lewis and Seb.
[09:50.640 -> 09:52.160] Seb has retired at the end of the year.
[09:52.360 -> 09:58.640] One of the major ones was Lewis wearing that t-shirt saying arrest the cops or
[09:58.640 -> 10:01.720] whatever, I can't remember, is that in 21?
[10:02.320 -> 10:03.800] Yeah, I believe so.
[10:04.600 -> 10:08.040] And then Vettel got in trouble for the helmet at the
[10:08.040 -> 10:13.760] Canadian Grand Prix about the tar sands or something. So yeah, but even even MBS has
[10:13.760 -> 10:18.920] I was an MBS quote, wasn't it? Or he was like, you know, drivers need to drive and just do
[10:18.920 -> 10:27.280] the thing. We've got Sebastian on his rainbow bicycle and stuff like that. It's like, dude, you're so out of touch,
[10:27.920 -> 10:32.960] so out of touch with the world around you. But if all that's going to happen is that,
[10:32.960 -> 10:38.720] you know, probably they pissed off some, I don't know, some energy people in Canada.
[10:38.720 -> 10:43.360] They pissed off some, I don't know, funding somewhere else. It's just like, come on. It's,
[10:43.360 -> 10:50.760] it's, yeah, yeah. you can't separate a lot of money felt embarrassed. Yeah, you can't you can't separate these two
[10:50.760 -> 10:55.240] I've got this I've got this cat. Yeah, he's not want to go away up in that background
[10:55.360 -> 11:01.760] He's all on it tonight Sterling say hi, buddy. Say hi if you're watching on YouTube you got Sterling the cat flopping around
[11:01.760 -> 11:05.080] Yeah, you give him some catnip. We're going to, we're going to miss
[11:05.320 -> 11:06.920] Seb and the sport definitely.
[11:07.000 -> 11:09.560] And then, and I, is, is Lewis going to carry this?
[11:09.680 -> 11:10.800] That's on, on his own.
[11:10.800 -> 11:13.800] Cause I don't, there's not too many other drivers who are particularly
[11:13.800 -> 11:16.040] inclined to speak up on anything.
[11:16.040 -> 11:18.240] And they're just kind of like, I want to drive race cars.
[11:18.240 -> 11:19.800] Whereas I want to go fast.
[11:20.240 -> 11:21.160] I want to go fast.
[11:21.320 -> 11:24.360] I'm not sure what to do with my hands or my cat right now, brother.
[11:25.680 -> 11:28.560] Yeah. But we might get Vettel back.
[11:29.120 -> 11:29.680] Apparently.
[11:29.680 -> 11:31.440] What's the what's the rumors on SEM?
[11:33.280 -> 11:36.480] How about Marco has come out and said that if
[11:37.680 -> 11:42.640] if the stars align, they would quite happily take Vettel in like a sort of senior management.
[11:46.240 -> 11:46.320] What do you call it?
[11:47.200 -> 11:47.440] Mentoring role.
[11:48.040 -> 11:48.600] The juniors. Apparently.
[11:48.920 -> 11:52.200] So that's interesting because I'm pretty sure that's like.
[11:53.000 -> 11:55.640] Rocky's now the young driver Academy dude, isn't he?
[11:55.880 -> 11:59.080] And they, maybe they were quite close to get the dream team back together.
[11:59.080 -> 12:00.360] Maybe that's an interesting one.
[12:01.120 -> 12:01.440] Yeah.
[12:01.720 -> 12:02.960] But then this is Marco, isn't it?
[12:02.960 -> 12:07.920] So let's go. 90% of what he says is BS.
[12:08.560 -> 12:12.640] No, 90% of what he says is 100% correct. He's just like, so he's like, well, I wasn't supposed
[12:12.640 -> 12:21.200] to say that yet. Ah, that's fine. Yes. That's fine. Oh my goodness. So speaking of drivers
[12:21.200 -> 12:25.880] moving around, we've got a, you know, we thought we're going to get a cool silly season.
[12:25.880 -> 12:29.140] You know, when there's like, you know, teams shaking stuff up, we've got drivers, all the
[12:29.140 -> 12:34.200] drivers silly season happened mid season with the piastri contracts and waiting for Sergeant
[12:34.200 -> 12:35.760] to get a drive and all of that.
[12:35.760 -> 12:40.000] We actually had a team principal silly season.
[12:40.000 -> 12:41.000] What do you think about that?
[12:41.000 -> 12:44.120] Um, I mean, a heck of a silly season.
[12:44.120 -> 12:45.120] It was as well.
[12:45.120 -> 12:47.680] I'm very impressed.
[12:47.680 -> 12:53.200] It was the team principal musical chairs, but it was, it was, it was like this domino
[12:53.200 -> 12:56.800] set just got knocked and set in motion and then everything was happening.
[12:56.800 -> 13:01.840] And there's a couple of threads to play with here, but the biggest one, the biggest one
[13:01.840 -> 13:07.920] is Bonato, uh, getting sacked by Ferrari. He's been there for a handful of years
[13:07.920 -> 13:13.040] and they've had a difficult year and the political machine behind the scenes is running that like
[13:13.040 -> 13:20.080] that's you can't put that on Bonotto. But let's not forget as well Bonotto has been Ferrari for
[13:21.360 -> 13:25.900] an incredibly long time. There's some pictures of him doing engine development and like in the
[13:25.900 -> 13:26.980] fucking thirties, right?
[13:28.180 -> 13:28.940] Something like that.
[13:28.940 -> 13:29.240] Yeah.
[13:29.340 -> 13:29.700] Yeah.
[13:30.740 -> 13:33.740] Like you just play where's Wally and all the old photos of a Ferrari.
[13:33.740 -> 13:34.520] And then there he is.
[13:34.820 -> 13:38.420] There's a good old photo of him wearing a Red Bull racing jacket.
[13:38.900 -> 13:39.220] Yeah.
[13:39.220 -> 13:42.460] From way back when Red Bull had the Ferrari engine.
[13:42.740 -> 13:43.780] That's correct.
[13:43.820 -> 13:49.600] He was one of the engineers on that. That's pretty wacky. That's funny,
[13:49.600 -> 13:55.520] man. And then they then they gave that engine to Toroso. Yes. And then then it was the better
[13:55.520 -> 13:59.680] engine to have. And they were still running around with the Renault. He put a junk in
[13:59.680 -> 14:06.020] the back, which actually came all right. Then on those V8 days, powered those guys to four world championships.
[14:07.200 -> 14:09.360] But so we've got Benazzo, he's off.
[14:09.360 -> 14:11.840] Yeah, well, officially he resigned.
[14:11.840 -> 14:12.660] Officially.
[14:12.660 -> 14:13.840] I don't think anyone here believes that.
[14:13.840 -> 14:14.680] I think it was a,
[14:16.280 -> 14:18.200] I would like to see your letter of resignation
[14:18.200 -> 14:20.920] on the table in the morning sort of deal.
[14:20.920 -> 14:22.240] Yeah, exactly.
[14:22.240 -> 14:23.640] But in Italian, obviously.
[14:23.640 -> 14:25.280] Yeah, yeah, so what's that, horse's head? I don't know. Yeah, exactly. But in Italian, obviously. Yeah. Yeah. So what's that? A horse's head?
[14:25.280 -> 14:33.960] I don't know. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. It was not his Domio day. No. And then. So that leaves
[14:33.960 -> 14:39.020] us an opening. We've got the Nato stepping out and we need, you need a team principal
[14:39.020 -> 14:45.160] at Ferrari. So who do they pick? Oh, sorry. I was in mid drink there. Ooh.
[14:45.160 -> 14:48.720] Frederic Vassur, Mr. Sauber.
[14:48.720 -> 14:49.920] Yeah.
[14:49.920 -> 14:51.340] So he, I think,
[14:52.240 -> 14:55.560] I think even before Bonotto was officially resigned,
[14:55.560 -> 14:57.640] I think there was rumors that they were going to swap,
[14:57.640 -> 15:00.580] get rid of him and put Fred in, weren't there?
[15:00.580 -> 15:01.420] Yeah.
[15:01.420 -> 15:02.240] So.
[15:02.240 -> 15:04.040] Oh, that was on the Twitter.
[15:04.040 -> 15:04.860] Yeah.
[15:04.860 -> 15:06.400] That was one of the sort of paddock rumors.
[15:06.400 -> 15:08.600] So that all came true.
[15:08.600 -> 15:12.680] Basically, I was curious.
[15:12.680 -> 15:15.760] That suit was booted out of Renault by Cyril, wasn't it?
[15:15.760 -> 15:17.760] After only a year.
[15:17.760 -> 15:27.040] Yeah, Squirrel Irritable, the old Renault now Alpine team, whatever he was, he did not see eye to eye.
[15:27.040 -> 15:27.540] Apparently.
[15:28.240 -> 15:28.740] No.
[15:29.440 -> 15:32.840] Um, I was curious going back a slight jump there.
[15:32.880 -> 15:35.880] I was a little bit curious as to where Bernardo was going to end up because
[15:37.440 -> 15:39.080] he's an incredibly good engineer.
[15:39.280 -> 15:42.040] I don't think there's any doubt, you know, with that.
[15:42.740 -> 15:47.840] Um, but it turns out we found out recently that apparently Ferrari have paid him off
[15:47.840 -> 15:51.280] for an entire year for gardening leave to prevent him from joining rivals.
[15:51.880 -> 15:56.080] So, yeah, so he, what, what probably happened in that case is a lot of these
[15:56.080 -> 16:00.920] people have probably three to five year contracts and maybe he was coming towards
[16:00.920 -> 16:04.160] the end of one of his contracts and he's got another year left and they said, right.
[16:08.100 -> 16:08.880] You're not going anywhere, mate, and I will pay you.
[16:09.880 -> 16:11.680] You can't go anywhere else.
[16:12.480 -> 16:13.620] Sign me up for that. I'll go, I'll go back.
[16:13.680 -> 16:15.220] I'll go back and work for Ferrari for a year.
[16:15.220 -> 16:18.920] If I can get a year paid to do nothing, consider I'm doing this podcast, man.
[16:18.920 -> 16:19.480] Let's go.
[16:19.640 -> 16:20.200] Woo.
[16:20.640 -> 16:23.620] Um, which is kind of similar to like the fun and games.
[16:23.680 -> 16:24.080] Oh, sorry.
[16:24.080 -> 16:25.160] I was adjusting my chair.
[16:25.160 -> 16:30.160] The fun and games that we had with Aston Martin
[16:30.160 -> 16:31.560] and Dan Fellows, wasn't it?
[16:31.560 -> 16:32.600] Yep. Yeah, exactly.
[16:32.600 -> 16:36.400] So Dan Fellows left a year or two ago, left Red Bull.
[16:36.400 -> 16:39.760] Then he was put on a long gardening leave, blah, blah, blah.
[16:39.760 -> 16:40.600] GGs, man.
[16:40.600 -> 16:42.360] Yeah, Red Bull weren't happy.
[16:42.360 -> 16:44.640] It wasn't long enough or something anyway.
[16:44.640 -> 16:45.160] So yeah.
[16:45.160 -> 16:46.000] Yeah, exactly.
[16:46.000 -> 16:48.600] But look, Notto is gonna get paid to sit around
[16:48.600 -> 16:51.760] and make pasta for a year and good luck to him.
[16:53.080 -> 16:55.040] Love that, but I can honestly think
[16:55.040 -> 16:58.400] if I was an engineer still and I was being paid
[16:58.400 -> 16:59.860] to not do anything, I didn't have another plan
[16:59.860 -> 17:00.960] and I wasn't seeing it going that way,
[17:00.960 -> 17:04.480] I'd be super, super bummed out to be sat twiddling
[17:04.480 -> 17:05.540] my thumbs for a whole year.
[17:05.760 -> 17:08.400] Or my garden would be immaculate.
[17:08.720 -> 17:08.880] Yeah.
[17:08.880 -> 17:09.360] One of the other.
[17:10.800 -> 17:11.840] So, right.
[17:12.100 -> 17:16.520] We've got, but not so gone resigning forced to leave whatever
[17:16.520 -> 17:18.160] Vassar taking over from.
[17:19.160 -> 17:22.280] At Ferrari as he left Alfa Romeo Sauber.
[17:22.360 -> 17:23.480] How do you feel confident?
[17:23.480 -> 17:24.280] Are you in Fred?
[17:24.920 -> 17:25.280] How do you feel?
[17:25.600 -> 17:28.400] Like I've heard so many people leaning.
[17:28.400 -> 17:30.040] It's like, oh yeah, I'll do a great job.
[17:30.240 -> 17:31.280] Dude, come on.
[17:31.400 -> 17:33.120] Who the fuck actually knows what team
[17:33.120 -> 17:34.240] principals do half the time?
[17:34.280 -> 17:36.320] Like not not as a thing, but like, how do
[17:36.320 -> 17:37.560] you how do you judge a good one?
[17:38.240 -> 17:39.880] Yeah, I have no idea.
[17:39.920 -> 17:41.400] Like how do you judge if someone's going
[17:41.400 -> 17:42.480] to be good at Ferrari as well?
[17:42.480 -> 17:43.120] Let's be honest.
[17:43.120 -> 17:43.800] Yeah, exactly.
[17:43.800 -> 17:46.000] You know, that's an easy one.
[17:46.360 -> 17:49.440] Your lifespan there is like four years tops and then you're going to get
[17:49.440 -> 17:50.720] guillotined or whatever they do.
[17:50.840 -> 17:52.040] Head in the bed kind of thing.
[17:52.400 -> 17:52.840] Yeah.
[17:53.080 -> 17:53.280] Yeah.
[17:53.520 -> 17:54.360] Like that's it.
[17:54.680 -> 17:57.040] I hear a lot of people like, oh yeah, he'll do a really good job.
[17:57.040 -> 17:57.360] But like.
[17:58.000 -> 17:58.720] Based on what?
[17:58.760 -> 17:59.200] I don't know.
[17:59.240 -> 18:02.640] I have, I'm not even going to remotely try to lean into be like, oh yeah,
[18:02.680 -> 18:04.520] my boy Fred's going to be smash it.
[18:04.560 -> 18:06.240] I hope he does a great job. I'd love to see Ferrari competing again and they're not going to remotely try to lean in to be like, Oh yeah, my boy Fred's going to be smashing it. I hope he does a great job.
[18:06.240 -> 18:09.680] I'd love to see Ferrari competing again and they're not going to compete without strong
[18:09.680 -> 18:10.680] leadership but.
[18:10.680 -> 18:15.960] Yeah, I'm maybe not quite such a hot take and we'll go into more of these later but
[18:15.960 -> 18:20.240] I can't see Ferrari winning next year.
[18:20.240 -> 18:25.160] I think they're going to be in very much a transition period.
[18:25.160 -> 18:26.160] Recovery mode.
[18:26.160 -> 18:27.160] This year.
[18:27.160 -> 18:28.160] This year.
[18:28.160 -> 18:29.160] Sorry, yeah, this year.
[18:29.160 -> 18:30.160] Christ.
[18:30.160 -> 18:32.400] Didn't ask you quick, didn't it?
[18:32.400 -> 18:34.200] Yeah, this year.
[18:34.200 -> 18:35.200] This year.
[18:35.200 -> 18:36.200] It's our year, man.
[18:36.200 -> 18:37.200] Come on.
[18:37.200 -> 18:38.200] It's our year.
[18:38.200 -> 18:39.200] Hell yeah, baby.
[18:39.200 -> 18:41.400] Is your favorite podcast recently exploded?
[18:41.400 -> 18:42.480] Well, don't worry.
[18:42.480 -> 18:44.120] We're here for you.
[18:44.120 -> 18:47.080] Let's go. But anyway,
[18:47.080 -> 18:54.640] so just Capito leaves Williams. Yeah, that one. I think that was like the surprise one.
[18:54.640 -> 18:59.840] Yeah, that was weird. So to kind of get through the team principal, silly season is Williams.
[18:59.840 -> 19:06.440] Have they filled that post yet? Because not only have they lost, um, uh, yeah.
[19:06.440 -> 19:08.880] And it sounded like he was on his way out, like into retirement.
[19:08.880 -> 19:12.200] Then he's like, I'll stick around, but also their technical director
[19:12.200 -> 19:14.240] ethics to Maison left as well.
[19:14.640 -> 19:18.520] So I don't know what the deal is there, but basically Williams are sitting there.
[19:19.280 -> 19:22.360] Having not as far as I'm aware, not announced a team
[19:22.360 -> 19:23.940] principal or technical director.
[19:23.940 -> 19:26.780] So what the actual heck is going on there?
[19:26.840 -> 19:27.080] Yeah.
[19:27.080 -> 19:28.000] So that's a weird one.
[19:28.520 -> 19:32.360] As of recording the 11th of January, no, they don't have a
[19:32.360 -> 19:33.960] TP or a technical director.
[19:34.720 -> 19:41.040] Uh, I understand that, uh, the Mason or Demasi on whatever, uh, got the boot
[19:41.080 -> 19:46.400] because he was partially blamed for the poor performance of this year's car which upset
[19:48.400 -> 19:51.560] Who's it owns Williams now, I've forgotten the name of the
[19:53.560 -> 19:58.400] D'Aulet and capital that's the one okay apparently someone up there got upset and
[19:59.080 -> 20:05.200] Yost Capito was going into retirement. Anyway, he came out of his planned retirement to take over at Williams,
[20:05.200 -> 20:12.800] but this one's a bit more boomer-y that Dawlett and Orso don't really get on well with Yost and
[20:12.800 -> 20:18.400] sort of partially blamed him for the Macian's failure as well. So.
[20:19.280 -> 20:22.240] Ah great, yeah there's a bunch of dudes throwing mud, screw them.
[20:22.240 -> 20:27.100] Yeah this is what happens when you have like corporate conglomerates taking over teams.
[20:27.100 -> 20:27.360] Isn't it?
[20:27.360 -> 20:28.120] It gets a bit weird.
[20:28.600 -> 20:28.880] Yeah.
[20:29.160 -> 20:34.000] So yeah, basically we don't have a team principal or a technical director Williams.
[20:34.140 -> 20:37.840] I've not even seen any names or suggestions for them.
[20:38.360 -> 20:41.960] And that's going to make it super hard because they're already like at the back
[20:41.960 -> 20:42.760] of the field, right?
[20:42.760 -> 20:48.920] So how do you without structure and direction? Because very much a lot of time there's a bunch of like people
[20:48.920 -> 20:52.760] going all their own directions. And if you don't have a leadership structure like that,
[20:52.760 -> 20:55.240] you just kind of like, right, well, we're thinking this, we're thinking this, and there's
[20:55.240 -> 20:59.280] not anybody that owns that direction of that. So it sounds like that'll probably something
[20:59.280 -> 21:04.460] appointed by a board and that board, what might they not know anything about? Like who's
[21:04.460 -> 21:06.800] the right one? It's like, Hey, this dude shouting pretty loud.
[21:06.800 -> 21:07.800] He looks confident.
[21:07.960 -> 21:08.540] Let's go with him.
[21:08.540 -> 21:10.280] It's like, you just picked the team idiot.
[21:10.440 -> 21:11.280] Congratulations.
[21:11.300 -> 21:12.120] Everybody hates him.
[21:12.960 -> 21:13.460] Yeah.
[21:13.820 -> 21:15.200] Who do you want to see now?
[21:15.200 -> 21:18.680] I see a lot of people in chat and on Twitter saying that they want
[21:18.680 -> 21:20.520] to see Susie Wolf go in there.
[21:21.660 -> 21:23.200] Cause she didn't do too bad in formula.
[21:24.520 -> 21:24.720] Yeah.
[21:24.760 -> 21:28.760] She was, um, but it's another, it's another one of those things.
[21:28.760 -> 21:31.240] It's like, that would be awesome, but I just don't know.
[21:31.240 -> 21:32.840] How do you judge a good team principal?
[21:32.960 -> 21:33.640] No, I don't know.
[21:33.640 -> 21:34.920] I don't think it's not going to be Susie.
[21:34.920 -> 21:39.760] Cause I think she said, um, the reason she missed out or sorry, the reason she left
[21:39.760 -> 21:44.160] a role in formula is because she says she wants to spend more time with her family.
[21:44.780 -> 21:45.000] Yeah.
[21:45.440 -> 21:51.280] And jumping into a TP role in a Formula 1 team will not give you that family time.
[21:51.800 -> 21:51.960] Yeah.
[21:51.960 -> 21:56.040] And then the team principals boxing match, you could have Susie and Toto as well.
[21:56.120 -> 21:56.600] Yes.
[21:56.600 -> 21:57.000] Yeah.
[21:58.040 -> 21:58.440] Yeah.
[21:59.000 -> 22:00.840] So, no, I mean, hey, it could be us.
[22:00.840 -> 22:04.040] We're still in, I mean, they've not said no officially to me and you doing it.
[22:05.340 -> 22:06.720] I'd honestly.
[22:09.320 -> 22:13.120] No, like the thing that the thing I hate the most about from the one is
[22:13.120 -> 22:18.360] politics and a team principal is, um, chief politician of the team.
[22:18.480 -> 22:18.880] Yeah.
[22:19.080 -> 22:20.440] Let's bring back Rosberg.
[22:21.400 -> 22:21.680] Okay.
[22:22.440 -> 22:26.000] Nico Rosberg and pastor Maldonado.
[22:26.000 -> 22:32.320] Hey, Pastor 2012 Spanish Grand Prix champion of that single race.
[22:32.320 -> 22:34.560] Also, driver number 13.
[22:34.560 -> 22:38.200] We have to go with our 13th episode.
[22:38.200 -> 22:39.200] Bold, bold.
[22:39.200 -> 22:43.400] All right, Pastor Maldonado is going to be the new team principal of Williams GGs.
[22:43.400 -> 22:44.400] Yep.
[22:44.400 -> 22:46.000] So next we go.
[22:46.000 -> 22:49.520] We've got one last piece of this puzzle and that piece isn't fully set.
[22:49.520 -> 22:52.480] We don't know what's happening with Williams, so.
[22:52.480 -> 22:56.040] It seems like.
[22:56.040 -> 23:02.800] Seidel Andrea Seidel, the team principle, the technical team principle of McLaren.
[23:02.800 -> 23:05.000] Is off to Audi Sauber, so Audi's coming in their goblin up partnered off to Audi Sauber.
[23:05.460 -> 23:07.680] So Audi's coming in, they're gobbling up,
[23:07.680 -> 23:10.600] partnering up with the Sauber, currently Alfa Romeo.
[23:10.600 -> 23:13.840] I know it's a lot going on, but let's just call them Sauber
[23:13.840 -> 23:15.280] because they're always Sauber underneath.
[23:15.280 -> 23:18.120] They've just been rebranded as Alfa Romeo this year.
[23:19.840 -> 23:21.000] Excuse me.
[23:21.000 -> 23:31.760] So, Andrea Seidel sounds like was sniffing around. He was part of BMW DTM, Porsche LMP1,
[23:31.760 -> 23:36.960] and then he's been, that's back in 2012, 2013, then he's been with McLaren F1 since 2019.
[23:38.640 -> 23:43.280] Looks like he was on his way to talking with Audi and Sauber for 2026 when the new engine
[23:43.280 -> 23:45.040] regulations come around.
[23:45.040 -> 23:48.120] But they're like, you know, why don't you get out of here now?
[23:48.120 -> 23:52.360] So Seidel is over to Sauber now.
[23:52.360 -> 23:53.360] Yes.
[23:53.360 -> 23:59.080] And like we say, he kind of has that relationship already with the VAG group, doesn't he, for
[23:59.080 -> 24:00.520] his Porsche and MP1.
[24:00.520 -> 24:02.360] So, yeah, exactly.
[24:02.360 -> 24:04.000] So he's kind of in that.
[24:04.000 -> 24:05.840] And he seems like, he seems like he seems like but like
[24:06.220 -> 24:12.120] Seidel has seemed like everybody that I've ever talked to that's worked with Seidel has nothing but great things to say about them
[24:12.120 -> 24:13.780] And it's like one of those things like, you know
[24:13.780 -> 24:18.080] When somebody's kind of good and you mentioned the name and people are volunteering compliments
[24:18.080 -> 24:22.940] Yeah, people don't do that for people that are mid. You know, like our people they don't like they're gonna be like
[24:22.940 -> 24:27.800] Oh, if you if you think if you think this guy's a dick or not good at his job, he's like, Oh, that guy.
[24:27.800 -> 24:28.800] Cool.
[24:28.800 -> 24:30.320] So that's, that's, that's a cool one.
[24:30.320 -> 24:36.160] And that's going to be a huge loss for McLaren as they are right on the edge of trying to
[24:36.160 -> 24:39.400] break into the top three on the edge of glory.
[24:39.400 -> 24:40.720] That's a lady Gaga song.
[24:40.720 -> 24:42.120] I think there you go.
[24:42.120 -> 24:43.120] Nice, nice.
[24:43.120 -> 24:44.720] He didn't expect that trivia from me.
[24:44.720 -> 24:45.120] Did you know? No, but he might come in like a wrecking ball. No, that's my Cyrus. Gaga song I think. There you go. Nice. Nice. He didn't expect that trivia from me did you?
[24:45.120 -> 24:48.960] No, no, but he might come in like a wrecking ball. No, that's Miley Cyrus.
[24:49.840 -> 24:52.160] Yes, it's a different one. Okay, good. Well done.
[24:52.880 -> 24:57.840] We're just going through our um, sort of LGBTQ heroes,
[24:57.840 -> 25:02.880] sing songwriters or whatever. Nah, I don't know. I don't know, but wrecking ball.
[25:04.000 -> 25:08.400] I love Elton John. So, there was also, sorry, I went complete tangent there.
[25:12.180 -> 25:13.480] That's why you listen to us.
[25:13.680 -> 25:15.360] That is why you listen to us.
[25:15.880 -> 25:17.800] Um, Oh fuck.
[25:17.800 -> 25:19.680] I completely forgot what I was going to say myself now.
[25:19.720 -> 25:20.040] Oh, right.
[25:20.040 -> 25:20.160] Yeah.
[25:20.160 -> 25:24.940] So, uh, Audi apparently were before this Sauber deal, they were sniffing
[25:24.940 -> 25:25.200] around McLaren, weren't they? Trying to buy it. Yeah. So, uh, Audi apparently were before this Sauber deal, they were sniffing around
[25:25.200 -> 25:27.040] McLaren, weren't they trying to buy it.
[25:28.220 -> 25:29.400] I wonder if it was a case of.
[25:30.080 -> 25:30.600] Standard.
[25:30.600 -> 25:30.960] Yes.
[25:30.960 -> 25:32.880] We're going to go buy Sauber come with us.
[25:33.760 -> 25:37.480] And it's like, okay, that's the only time we can talk is in the McLaren factory.
[25:37.480 -> 25:38.620] And you guys are looking at buying us.
[25:38.620 -> 25:40.080] We can't have a phone call or anything.
[25:40.840 -> 25:44.880] We'll come in and pretend we're going to buy McLaren just so we can have a chat.
[25:48.360 -> 25:49.360] Slip the napkin at the little coffee bar downstairs. Yeah.
[25:49.360 -> 25:50.360] That's some insider knowledge.
[25:50.360 -> 25:51.360] I know where the coffee bar is.
[25:51.360 -> 25:54.720] There's like that beautiful glass window that looks like something out of Minority Report,
[25:54.720 -> 25:58.600] but down below in one of those pits at the lower area, there's a little cappuccino bar
[25:58.600 -> 26:03.000] that none of the people that work there ever go to because it's too damn expensive.
[26:03.000 -> 26:07.360] This knowledge is correct as of 2012, which was the last time I was in that facility.
[26:07.360 -> 26:12.280] And it was also used as a space port on Andor recently.
[26:12.280 -> 26:14.320] Yeah, that's dope.
[26:14.320 -> 26:15.320] That's dope.
[26:15.320 -> 26:16.320] There you go.
[26:16.320 -> 26:18.600] We've got a void in McLaren.
[26:18.600 -> 26:20.360] Who's filling that?
[26:20.360 -> 26:23.800] Andrea Stella, who has probably the best surname going.
[26:23.800 -> 26:24.800] Yep.
[26:24.800 -> 26:25.360] Staying the life of a true Brexit geyser. Andrea Stella, who has probably the best surname going. Yep.
[26:27.520 -> 26:28.080] Staying the life of a true Brexit geezer.
[26:28.320 -> 26:31.800] Yeah. So he was Alonzo's race engineer, 2010 to 2014.
[26:31.800 -> 26:32.440] Go on lad.
[26:32.600 -> 26:33.100] Yeah.
[26:33.480 -> 26:35.040] Reikinen 07, 08.
[26:35.480 -> 26:39.800] And then he was performance engineer, uh, before that even.
[26:39.840 -> 26:42.360] So 02 to 08 for Schumacher and Reikinen.
[26:42.400 -> 26:42.900] So.
[26:43.480 -> 26:44.240] I mean, dude.
[26:44.240 -> 26:44.740] Yeah.
[26:44.840 -> 26:47.480] He's got the experience and he's worked
[26:47.480 -> 26:51.040] with some pretty speedy people.
[26:51.040 -> 26:54.640] So he was race operations McLaren from 2015,
[26:54.640 -> 26:56.240] or at 2015.
[26:56.240 -> 26:58.820] And then in 2018, he was moved up to performance director.
[26:58.820 -> 27:01.120] So they've taken, this guy is, you know,
[27:01.120 -> 27:04.160] he's a race engineer background, like operationally,
[27:04.160 -> 27:06.680] knows the ins and outs, how the things work.
[27:06.680 -> 27:10.560] And they, this, this, this is the kind of character I think that usually makes a really,
[27:10.560 -> 27:14.920] really good performance person because they know what's good, what should work and what's
[27:14.920 -> 27:15.920] not.
[27:15.920 -> 27:19.400] And as long as they can lean on their development people in the team that have the expertise
[27:19.400 -> 27:24.240] and those subsystems and those details level under, that's, that's pretty good.
[27:24.240 -> 27:26.240] And now he's up to team principle.
[27:26.240 -> 27:31.080] So if he's got the personal skills, um, he's got the management skills and
[27:31.080 -> 27:36.440] if he's got the right instincts to lean on the right things and direct that ship.
[27:36.800 -> 27:37.600] That could be good.
[27:37.600 -> 27:39.720] But at the same time, Seidel was pretty rad too.
[27:40.320 -> 27:40.760] I think.
[27:41.760 -> 27:42.040] Yeah.
[27:42.040 -> 27:46.320] McLaren McLaren need to make that jump.
[27:46.320 -> 27:48.160] Yeah, and they're humming and honking.
[27:48.160 -> 27:53.400] To be honest, I think they would have finished fourth this year if it wasn't for Daniel not
[27:53.400 -> 27:56.560] getting on with that car like he did.
[27:56.560 -> 27:59.960] But then at the same time, Alonso was really unlucky the whole season as well with reliability
[27:59.960 -> 28:01.320] and his teammate wasn't.
[28:01.320 -> 28:04.440] So a bit of a mixed bag.
[28:04.440 -> 28:05.800] Shoulda woulda coulda. Shoulda, woulda, coulda.
[28:05.800 -> 28:07.000] First year of new regulations,
[28:07.000 -> 28:08.560] we're now going into the second year
[28:08.560 -> 28:11.200] of these aero regulations with the 18 inch tires.
[28:12.240 -> 28:15.320] I think we'll see the field collapse a little bit together,
[28:16.920 -> 28:19.260] but yeah, we'll get into our 2023 predictions in a minute.
[28:19.260 -> 28:23.240] But I think what I've heard the rumors are is,
[28:23.240 -> 28:26.680] Stella doesn't seem too confident in the performance of this new car
[28:26.960 -> 28:31.040] Which for the most part everybody's cars next season will be an evolution of this one
[28:31.040 -> 28:37.960] Nobody's rocking up with new stuff. So, you know, they got maybe somebody throw some new philosophies out there, but
[28:38.560 -> 28:41.560] Everything's gonna look like an RV 18
[28:42.320 -> 28:48.000] Yeah, exactly. Exactly. I think Clara is going to look like the orange edition
[28:48.000 -> 28:53.720] red bull. Imagine that. So get somebody start cooking up that meme tonight, man. Get it
[28:53.720 -> 29:01.000] on the internet. Yeah, man. Go online. So that's our team principal silly season. And
[29:01.000 -> 29:05.880] why not? We talk about team principals, but what about whole new teams? There's a lot going on.
[29:05.880 -> 29:10.640] And there's actually something that you pointed out to me earlier that I wasn't aware about
[29:10.640 -> 29:11.640] that we'll get to.
[29:11.640 -> 29:14.820] There's, there's not just one team with their hat in the ring.
[29:14.820 -> 29:15.820] There's a couple.
[29:15.820 -> 29:16.820] Yeah.
[29:16.820 -> 29:21.600] And some of them are getting a little bit thrown under just the noise is from some corners
[29:21.600 -> 29:23.040] of that ring a little bit louder.
[29:23.040 -> 29:24.040] Yeah.
[29:24.040 -> 29:25.520] So the biggest one, the biggest one is some more of that ring a little bit louder yeah so the biggest one the biggest
[29:25.520 -> 29:34.000] one is um some more of your american friends in the uh andretti clan oh not nikita mezpin
[29:34.000 -> 29:39.440] no no he's american now by the way oh is he yeah is he oh i didn't see that is he no i just made
[29:39.440 -> 29:45.840] that up all right i was gonna say i i i wouldn't put it past him. Yeah. New citizenship.
[29:45.840 -> 29:46.840] Yeah.
[29:46.840 -> 29:51.920] Um, fucking you do this all the time and you throw me.
[29:51.920 -> 29:53.760] Andretti, Andretti.
[29:53.760 -> 29:55.120] Right.
[29:55.120 -> 30:00.880] So the big saga going on at the moment is Andretti basically trying to get into F1.
[30:00.880 -> 30:10.200] Now, if you need a refresher, I'm going to give you a quick one. So they first tried to buy Sauber last year, but that fell through.
[30:10.240 -> 30:12.960] So then they announced plans to set up their own F1 team.
[30:13.900 -> 30:16.280] And at the time there was a, there was a lot of concern.
[30:16.280 -> 30:19.920] Like we're not really convinced that this project is solid enough.
[30:20.920 -> 30:22.800] They said, we don't think it's serious enough.
[30:22.800 -> 30:23.720] And it's like, we've got.
[30:24.760 -> 30:29.080] And ready is American for race and brother you know I'm saying man?
[30:29.080 -> 30:30.080] Yes, hell yeah.
[30:30.080 -> 30:31.080] Big name in America.
[30:31.080 -> 30:32.080] Oh hell yeah brother.
[30:32.080 -> 30:38.120] And basically Andretti was effectively told to F off and come back when you've got a car
[30:38.120 -> 30:42.600] manufacturer to support your bid and we'll look at it again.
[30:42.600 -> 30:43.680] So what did they do?
[30:43.680 -> 30:45.920] Tell me what they did. Well they rock up
[30:45.920 -> 30:51.720] with the American icon General Motors formerly the world's biggest car company
[30:51.720 -> 30:55.840] I don't know where they must be I mean they're still one of the largest and
[30:55.840 -> 31:00.560] basically they came out last week and said yeah fuck it Cadillac and Andretti
[31:00.560 -> 31:05.200] F1 let's go. We got a couple car brands under our belt brother how
[31:05.200 -> 31:09.920] about you feel about them Cadillacs? Yeah they're like oh hell yeah brother.
[31:09.920 -> 31:18.280] Nothing says to me F1 performance like a Cadillac Escalade. But like to be fair
[31:18.280 -> 31:29.600] right to be fair here's a little anecdote on the side. Yeah. I've upset all the American sports car fans now because I went home, uh, and my
[31:29.600 -> 31:34.360] old man has purchased a Cadillac CT5 black wing.
[31:34.440 -> 31:35.360] It's the last.
[31:35.920 -> 31:39.760] Cadillac that will have a manual transmission with 680 horsepower, brother.
[31:40.080 -> 31:45.000] And I tell you what, there ain't nothing legal you can do with 680 horsepower.
[31:45.100 -> 31:45.800] Damn brother.
[31:46.060 -> 31:48.460] Getting wheel spin in fourth gear on the highway.
[31:48.520 -> 31:49.660] I said, God damn.
[31:50.300 -> 31:51.540] Um, yeah.
[31:51.540 -> 31:55.020] Firing a revolver out the window into the air at the same time.
[31:55.480 -> 31:56.280] No, no, it was not.
[31:56.320 -> 31:57.680] That would be irresponsible.
[31:57.760 -> 31:59.580] While cooking a steak in the backseat.
[31:59.620 -> 31:59.880] Yeah.
[32:00.160 -> 32:00.420] Yeah.
[32:00.440 -> 32:06.320] But like, to be fair, we've got, you you've got Cadillac is now in Le Mans.
[32:07.040 -> 32:12.560] That car. Oh my God. Have you seen the video of the electric pitland start? And then it roars
[32:12.560 -> 32:18.960] like a fucking demon out of hell. Yeah. Oh my goodness. Oh my goodness. It does look good.
[32:18.960 -> 32:27.600] But to the more, you know, how do I it? Less, less knowledgeable, zero will knowledge people.
[32:28.320 -> 32:31.040] You think of Cadillac, you think of, like I say, Escalades.
[32:31.680 -> 32:35.360] Yeah. Yeah. But, but then you've got, you've got Cadillac had been in GT,
[32:35.360 -> 32:40.000] even pearly world challenge for ages. Those are some really cool cars. One of my, one of my very
[32:40.000 -> 32:43.920] good friends was actually race engineer in that series for a number of years with Pratt and
[32:43.920 -> 32:47.800] Miller. So there's some racing pedigree on there. And yes, they do have the Escalade,
[32:47.800 -> 32:55.320] but yes, they do have the CTS and all the other spicy cars. Yeah. Excuse me. And anyway,
[32:55.320 -> 32:59.680] again, that's a tangent. I just wanted to get some, some Cadillac slander in there.
[32:59.680 -> 33:02.840] That was all. Yeah, that's fine. That's fine. But before we get onto the tangent, I think
[33:02.840 -> 33:08.000] we need to, um, maybe a little, have a little have a little word from our partners as we're nearing the middle of this
[33:08.000 -> 33:13.600] episode. Smooth. Yeah, what are we saying? So we've got a little, little word from our sponsors.
[33:14.320 -> 33:20.400] And we'll be right back. Oh, I just bashed the mic as well for full effect there.
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[35:11.520 -> 35:13.920] F1. What are we?
[35:14.360 -> 35:17.120] Are we going to we're going to have to do some F1 2023 content
[35:17.120 -> 35:19.440] when the game comes out for the bands, because I'm around with that.
[35:19.600 -> 35:21.880] I'm absolutely trash at the game.
[35:21.880 -> 35:23.920] Same. Good. Right.
[35:24.760 -> 35:28.340] So, yes, sorry. We were banging on about Andretti and Cadillac.
[35:29.100 -> 35:32.600] FIA and told them, go get a go get a manufacturer
[35:32.740 -> 35:35.080] and they rock up with Cadillac.
[35:35.080 -> 35:38.900] But but they kind of like backtracked and two stepped them.
[35:38.900 -> 35:40.480] You know, I'm saying what happened there?
[35:40.480 -> 35:43.740] Yeah, well, so the FIA, because I think this is
[35:43.740 -> 35:45.000] another of these things where people don't
[35:45.000 -> 35:52.320] don't fully understand so the FIA obviously look after all rules and regulations things like that
[35:52.320 -> 35:58.000] but there's also another company called FOM that actually look after Formula One as a
[35:58.000 -> 36:08.000] commercial entity. Yeah yeah it's FOM Formula One management. So the rights holders, fees, prize monies, money laundering.
[36:08.000 -> 36:10.000] Yeah, that's all FOM.
[36:10.000 -> 36:12.000] Blood oil money.
[36:12.000 -> 36:19.000] The FIA side, and again our friend MBS, they sounded pretty convinced.
[36:19.000 -> 36:22.000] They were hyping it up, it was all good.
[36:22.000 -> 36:25.680] But in the background it seems like FOM and the
[36:25.680 -> 36:33.920] teams were a little bit like hmm we're still not fully sort of sure about this. And then
[36:35.040 -> 36:39.520] MBS put out a statement on Twitter through his personal Twitter which I thought was a bit odd
[36:40.800 -> 36:48.560] saying it is surprising there's been some adverse reaction to the Cadillac and Andretti global news. We should be encouraging prospective entries from
[36:48.560 -> 36:53.560] global manufacturers like GM and thoroughbred racers like Andretti and
[36:53.560 -> 36:57.040] others. So yeah there's two things weird about that.
[36:57.040 -> 37:01.920] Can I stop you right there? Yeah. MBS's personal email or Twitter right? I
[37:01.920 -> 37:06.420] followed the FIA. I know what's coming. I followed the FIA. What's coming. I follow the FIA Twitter, right.
[37:06.440 -> 37:10.920] And they send me a DM as from a bot on the FIA Twitter for me to go.
[37:10.920 -> 37:12.160] It's like, Oh, Hey, this is Mr.
[37:12.160 -> 37:12.680] MBS.
[37:12.680 -> 37:15.160] You should follow me on my Twitter for more great content.
[37:15.160 -> 37:16.960] I'm like, dude, I'm not following you.
[37:16.960 -> 37:18.200] I'm actually muting you.
[37:18.600 -> 37:21.880] So, um, yeah, that's a great way to get muted on Twitter is to follow the FIA
[37:22.080 -> 37:23.640] and then just go mute MBS.
[37:23.720 -> 37:24.040] Yeah.
[37:24.680 -> 37:26.160] Just out of, out of that.
[37:26.160 -> 37:26.960] Don't spam me.
[37:27.040 -> 37:32.240] FIA don't spam me, but anyway, I had to jump in with that, that, that, that
[37:32.240 -> 37:33.960] ground my gears brother, you know what I'm saying?
[37:34.000 -> 37:34.280] Yeah.
[37:34.340 -> 37:36.240] So there was two, two odd things about.
[37:37.280 -> 37:38.920] Blimey that monster's repeating on me.
[37:41.440 -> 37:42.840] Other energy drinks are available.
[37:43.280 -> 37:47.760] Um, the two weird things about that statement were obviously it was from his
[37:47.760 -> 37:49.920] personal account rather than the FIA account.
[37:50.440 -> 37:54.520] And there, there hadn't actually been any adverse reaction,
[37:54.760 -> 37:55.960] at least not publicly.
[37:56.040 -> 37:56.540] So.
[37:57.440 -> 38:00.820] I mean, I'm assuming he's addressing FOM and the teams in the background
[38:00.920 -> 38:02.600] that's probably occurring.
[38:03.200 -> 38:07.200] So the big issue with the teams and whatnot
[38:07.200 -> 38:12.880] is of course money. And I think this is bookmark this because this is probably going to be the only
[38:12.880 -> 38:19.360] time that an ex-Red Bull employee defends Toto Wolff. But I think Toto Wolff's unnecessarily
[38:19.360 -> 38:23.360] getting a lot of the flack for this because I think maybe he's been the one that sort of publicly
[38:23.360 -> 38:27.120] stuck his head out and said we're going to lose money, but all the teams
[38:27.120 -> 38:27.760] are thinking that.
[38:28.760 -> 38:29.000] Yeah.
[38:29.440 -> 38:34.280] So, um, and it always comes around to is.
[38:35.080 -> 38:36.560] Why will people lose money?
[38:36.760 -> 38:37.780] Explain that for everybody.
[38:37.780 -> 38:39.140] Cause that's, that's an important point.
[38:39.140 -> 38:40.120] Why people lose money.
[38:40.200 -> 38:40.360] Yeah.
[38:40.360 -> 38:41.880] So there's a point of money, right?
[38:41.920 -> 38:42.120] Yeah.
[38:42.200 -> 38:45.720] The commercial rights, things like that, TV deals, whatever.
[38:45.720 -> 38:50.220] The more teams, the more you've got to split that money up.
[38:50.220 -> 38:55.280] So their argument at the moment, or what we believe, is they're all sitting there saying,
[38:55.280 -> 39:00.880] well what value does this Andre, what value is it going to add to F1?
[39:00.880 -> 39:05.640] Which I think is a pretty weak argument given the expansive growth in the American market.
[39:05.640 -> 39:09.320] I think, why the hell would you not want another American team?
[39:09.320 -> 39:10.320] You got three races.
[39:10.320 -> 39:12.400] Yeah, you got the all-American team.
[39:12.400 -> 39:15.680] You had, I mean, you had Haas last year with the Russian flag on it.
[39:15.680 -> 39:18.200] You don't get more American than that, do you brother?
[39:18.200 -> 39:20.720] I mean the colors were right, just not the design.
[39:20.720 -> 39:28.920] Yeah, but I think that's interesting because it it's like this is a good question in the chat is it seems like they're like halfway
[39:28.920 -> 39:32.520] gatekeeping and then you have F1, you know, Liberty Media driving this thing.
[39:32.520 -> 39:34.200] We've got three Grand Prix's in the US.
[39:34.200 -> 39:35.840] The US is a vast market.
[39:35.840 -> 39:41.920] F1 is exploding in the US as a result of drive, survive and many other factors, including,
[39:41.920 -> 39:48.540] you know, it's definitely helped propel that into the, you know, household name for a lot of people, everybody's talking about it.
[39:48.620 -> 39:54.400] And then if I are like treating Andretti, like, I don't know the form or in the
[39:54.400 -> 39:56.180] teams and ready, it's just like, this is weird.
[39:56.180 -> 39:58.600] This is some like weird gatekeeping or is there something else?
[39:58.740 -> 40:02.120] So does somebody have some pictures of somebody doing something they shouldn't?
[40:03.020 -> 40:05.160] Well, funny, you should say that.
[40:05.680 -> 40:11.320] Oh, so Miami, uh, last year, we all remember Miami.
[40:11.320 -> 40:11.640] Don't we?
[40:11.640 -> 40:12.080] Yes.
[40:12.800 -> 40:17.000] Andretti turned up and he went around all the team principals asking them to sign
[40:17.000 -> 40:21.960] the document saying that they, uh, agreed and supported his sort of bid into F1.
[40:22.840 -> 40:23.720] I've never heard this.
[40:23.800 -> 40:26.080] Apparently that really pissed off Stefano
[40:26.640 -> 40:31.920] Dominicali, who basically said to Andre that's not how you do things and you can't bully people
[40:31.920 -> 40:37.360] into supporting your bid. So I think there's a little bit of tension there already. Well it's
[40:37.360 -> 40:41.600] like hey it's like let's put this out there because it seems like you've got MBS doing
[40:41.600 -> 40:47.360] personal tweets from his Twitter because he's talking to team principals and FOM and FIA and all this other stuff.
[40:47.640 -> 40:50.560] And then you've got Mario going around with a document saying, brother,
[40:50.920 -> 40:52.440] do you support me?
[40:52.440 -> 40:55.680] I'm once again asking, can I count on your support?
[40:56.320 -> 40:58.120] Yeah, exactly. But.
[40:59.440 -> 41:01.600] That's so weird, dude, that's so weird.
[41:02.080 -> 41:04.240] So it's a Dominican colleague pissed off at him.
[41:04.360 -> 41:06.320] OK. And now the teams are pissed off
[41:06.320 -> 41:11.320] because I think they've realized that GM aren't
[41:11.600 -> 41:16.240] realistically gonna just pop out a power unit anytime soon.
[41:16.240 -> 41:18.900] So it's probably gonna be a rebadging exercise
[41:18.900 -> 41:22.680] of a Renault engine, which you can do.
[41:22.680 -> 41:23.520] RIP.
[41:23.520 -> 41:27.000] Yeah, which you can do for 10% of the cost of actually developing your own.
[41:27.000 -> 41:28.000] Yep.
[41:28.000 -> 41:30.560] And a lot of the teams...
[41:30.560 -> 41:34.800] There's a price that like, so if somebody says we'd like a power unit, Renault are only
[41:34.800 -> 41:38.240] supplying their team and there's a price tag on those engines, like we'd like a team please,
[41:38.240 -> 41:46.040] or we'd like an engine please, and we'll brand this French asthmatic donkey with the wreath of the Cadillac on it.
[41:46.040 -> 41:46.240] Yeah.
[41:47.400 -> 41:47.560] Yeah.
[41:47.560 -> 41:48.200] What a disgrace.
[41:48.200 -> 41:49.560] What an absolute disgrace.
[41:50.640 -> 41:54.900] Whereas Ferrari, Mercedes and all that, they're pouring like hundreds of
[41:54.900 -> 41:59.520] millions per year into this, into their own PUs, I think they're a bit
[41:59.520 -> 42:06.680] upset that GM can just walk in, pay 10 million or whatever it is to Renault and basically badge
[42:06.680 -> 42:13.440] it as a GM unit and reap possibly, I mean, they're not going to fucking win, let's be
[42:13.440 -> 42:19.520] real, but possibly reap the rewards of that by only 10% of the cost.
[42:19.520 -> 42:20.960] What are they, what are they worried about?
[42:20.960 -> 42:21.960] A new team coming in?
[42:21.960 -> 42:24.800] How long is it going to take them to figure it out?
[42:24.800 -> 42:27.920] It's going to take them a damn long time and less.
[42:27.920 -> 42:31.760] Smart people out there will realize that,
[42:31.760 -> 42:37.800] well, how come Alfa Romeo are allowed to advertise Alfa Romeo on a Ferrari power unit?
[42:37.800 -> 42:40.560] That is because they are part of the same company.
[42:40.560 -> 42:41.680] Ooh, okay.
[42:41.680 -> 42:45.000] GM and Renault obviously have got no relation. Yet. Yeah, maybe GM will. GM and Renault obviously have no relation.
[42:45.000 -> 42:46.000] Yet.
[42:46.000 -> 42:49.000] Yeah, maybe GM will just fucking buy Renault and say,
[42:49.000 -> 42:51.000] now what are you going to do?
[42:51.000 -> 42:55.000] Yeah, but even further to that point, you've got Red Bull Powertrains.
[42:55.000 -> 42:59.000] That's not coming out of a Red Bull Powertrains factory.
[42:59.000 -> 43:01.000] That is a Honda.
[43:01.000 -> 43:04.000] But people are also upset about that.
[43:04.000 -> 43:05.120] Honda only contracted to build the design that Red Bull Powertrains Honda. But people are also upset about that.
[43:05.120 -> 43:07.680] Honda are only contracted to build design.
[43:07.680 -> 43:11.680] Yeah, okay, so Red Bull are now operating it effectively.
[43:11.680 -> 43:15.760] Yeah, so it gives Honda to make the machining and things like that.
[43:15.760 -> 43:18.280] That's like Mechachrome making part of the Renault engines.
[43:18.280 -> 43:21.800] Yeah, it's like we can go to Cosmoff and say, build me this engine, it'd be shit, but they'd
[43:21.800 -> 43:22.800] build it.
[43:22.800 -> 43:25.640] Yeah, well, that's what happens when you go to Renaault and ask them to build you an engine, isn't it?
[43:25.640 -> 43:26.520] Oh yeah.
[43:26.520 -> 43:26.840] True.
[43:27.800 -> 43:33.880] Um, so diving a bit more now into the money issue.
[43:33.880 -> 43:35.320] Let's talk about it.
[43:35.320 -> 43:36.080] Let's talk about the cash.
[43:36.320 -> 43:40.760] The cash is the, we draw a line to any of these problems in the sport.
[43:41.360 -> 43:44.360] No, no, no political statements, draw a line to the money.
[43:44.400 -> 43:46.840] No, no new teams in the sport draw a line to the money. No new teams in the sport, draw a line to the money.
[43:46.840 -> 43:50.160] So let's talk about the money.
[43:50.160 -> 43:55.680] So the figure going around is that all new teams have to pay 200 million.
[43:55.680 -> 44:00.880] And this has all been agreed by the teams a few years ago, and it's an anti-dilution
[44:00.880 -> 44:01.880] fee.
[44:01.880 -> 44:06.060] So basically they take that 200 million and they distribute it among the existing
[44:06.060 -> 44:10.620] teams to offset the drop in income from the prize fund being split between
[44:11.160 -> 44:12.500] another, you know, an extra team.
[44:12.500 -> 44:19.000] Like we, like I said earlier, um, now that 200 million kind of compensates for
[44:19.000 -> 44:22.500] about just over two years of loss of prize money, right?
[44:23.100 -> 44:26.980] Now they've turned around the teams and, and whatever and said, well, actually
[44:26.980 -> 44:31.080] 200 million is not enough with the explosive growth of F1, you actually
[44:31.080 -> 44:32.400] now need to give us closest.
[44:32.880 -> 44:37.920] Closer to 600 to 700 million representing more like five years.
[44:37.920 -> 44:41.200] It'd be more appropriate, but the teams didn't agree that they
[44:41.200 -> 44:42.680] all agreed on 200 million.
[44:43.240 -> 44:45.300] Contracts part of the Concord agreement.
[44:45.300 -> 44:46.300] It's not for renewal.
[44:46.780 -> 44:47.920] Suck it up, buttercup.
[44:48.580 -> 44:48.820] Yeah.
[44:48.860 -> 44:54.540] Like I get it, but at the same time, here's a great way to free up about
[44:54.540 -> 44:56.800] $90 million or 90 million pounds.
[44:57.360 -> 45:00.180] Get rid of Ferrari's longstanding team bonus.
[45:00.180 -> 45:02.460] It's not like they're doing anything fucking useful with it anyway.
[45:02.540 -> 45:02.780] No.
[45:04.020 -> 45:04.580] Oh my God.
[45:04.580 -> 45:05.880] I'm choking. You know what I'm saying? It's not like they're doing anything fucking useful with it anyway. No, oh My god, I'm choking
[45:05.880 -> 45:10.400] You know I'm saying it's not like they're doing anything with it anyway, like but we're Ferrari
[45:10.400 -> 45:12.660] Give us 90 million or we fucking leave. All right, leave
[45:12.660 -> 45:16.980] We didn't have many Ferrari fans listening and we're certainly not gonna anymore. So thank you
[45:16.980 -> 45:20.960] No, I I feel bad for you guys. I do and I don't want to see it happen
[45:20.960 -> 45:23.400] I don't want to see this happen to you guys either
[45:23.400 -> 45:28.560] But why the hell are Ferrari getting 90 million or whatever that figure is?
[45:28.560 -> 45:29.560] It's a huge figure.
[45:29.560 -> 45:30.920] It's a historic payment apparently.
[45:30.920 -> 45:33.160] Yeah, it's because you guys have been in it so long.
[45:33.160 -> 45:34.880] It's a great you guys have been awesome.
[45:34.880 -> 45:39.000] You guys are, you know, you know, you can't think of Formula One without Ferrari fine,
[45:39.000 -> 45:42.920] but you can keep fucking up world championships like that and still get 90 million for doing
[45:42.920 -> 45:48.640] absolutely nothing, which is more than I think the prize payout for fifth or sixth place is is Ferrari
[45:48.640 -> 45:53.120] get that amount of money just for showing up because they threatened to leave and probably
[45:53.120 -> 45:57.880] because the half of the FI or Ferrari anyway. Yeah, and some of the chat saying Williams
[45:57.880 -> 46:03.120] get it as well, but they do. It's nowhere near 90 million Williams get a bit. I think
[46:03.120 -> 46:07.240] McLaren get a bit and I think also Red Bull might get a bonus for being one of the first teams to sign
[46:07.240 -> 46:14.440] The new Concord. There's something something like that. Yeah. Yeah, I will and I'm not just throwing that out there. It's a bullshit
[46:14.440 -> 46:19.880] I will go have a look tonight and I will put on the engine breaking Twitter tomorrow after the episode goes out just to clarify
[46:19.880 -> 46:21.440] That or if there's nothing in it
[46:21.440 -> 46:27.680] You know, if you don't see anything on Twitter assume that I was full of shit. No, no, everything we say here is 100% fact.
[46:27.680 -> 46:31.440] Yeah, but anyway, yeah, Ferrari get a huge chunk of cash just for showing up because
[46:31.440 -> 46:32.640] they threatened to leave all the time.
[46:32.640 -> 46:33.640] Yeah, let them go.
[46:33.640 -> 46:34.640] Let them go.
[46:34.640 -> 46:38.920] I mean, they did offer they did offer so much entertainment last season and without them
[46:38.920 -> 46:42.480] fucking it up so often, this would have been pretty difficult season to watch.
[46:42.480 -> 46:46.800] Yeah, maybe the 90 million was because I had everyone watching to see what
[46:46.800 -> 46:48.360] the strategy team was going to do next.
[46:48.920 -> 46:50.760] I wonder what the audience retention.
[46:51.240 -> 46:51.560] Yeah.
[46:51.680 -> 46:52.960] And that's per year, right?
[46:53.160 -> 46:53.520] Yeah.
[46:54.280 -> 46:57.160] How much, I wonder how much they paid off for the fuel flow meters.
[46:57.160 -> 47:00.720] So you guys just keep the 90 mil this year.
[47:00.720 -> 47:03.440] We got, we got 110 kilos per hour, baby.
[47:07.840 -> 47:13.120] Oh my God. Right. I love, I love F1. Bring it on. Bring it on. So what do we got left?
[47:13.840 -> 47:18.480] So yeah, sorry. That pretty much sums up the Andre Shenanigans that's going on.
[47:19.440 -> 47:26.320] Um, it's basically, it sounds like a power struggle between F1, sorry, FIA, FOM,
[47:27.200 -> 47:28.480] and a couple of the teams.
[47:28.480 -> 47:33.200] So, Andretti just seemed to be, unfortunately, the pawn
[47:33.280 -> 47:34.680] being used in that chess game.
[47:34.680 -> 47:36.960] And we'll have to wait and see how that turns out.
[47:38.080 -> 47:40.000] But there's another team.
[47:40.000 -> 47:42.160] A team that's gone a little bit under the radar.
[47:42.600 -> 47:47.440] I have I have maybe heard this name once years ago, years ago.
[47:47.880 -> 47:49.600] I have heard it every now and again.
[47:50.400 -> 47:53.560] Uh, and they are Panfera, Panfera.
[47:53.600 -> 47:54.600] I can't even say it right.
[47:55.920 -> 47:57.480] Panfera Asia F1 team.
[47:57.480 -> 47:58.400] That's what I'm going with.
[47:59.000 -> 48:03.080] So it's been about four years since this initial project was announced.
[48:03.880 -> 48:07.520] Um, and they have come out in the press
[48:07.520 -> 48:10.920] and said they've begun working with the FIA on their expression
[48:10.920 -> 48:13.800] of interest process.
[48:13.800 -> 48:16.100] They've also said, apparently, they already
[48:16.100 -> 48:19.760] have an agreement in principle with a PU supplier.
[48:19.760 -> 48:20.400] Interesting.
[48:20.400 -> 48:24.000] Which I thought was quite bold and punchy of them.
[48:24.000 -> 48:27.520] So that establishes they're quite far along. they said we'd like to give you some cash
[48:27.520 -> 48:29.000] for one of your engines please.
[48:29.000 -> 48:30.000] Yeah.
[48:30.000 -> 48:31.000] Who are they?
[48:31.000 -> 48:32.000] Who are they?
[48:32.000 -> 48:33.680] What are they made up of?
[48:33.680 -> 48:36.060] We don't know really at the moment.
[48:36.060 -> 48:40.440] So it's a bunch of people obviously based in, where was it?
[48:40.440 -> 48:41.920] I forgot where they were now.
[48:41.920 -> 48:44.160] Obviously Asia but I can't remember whereabouts they were.
[48:44.160 -> 48:48.100] I think it may have been Malaysia.
[48:48.100 -> 48:50.060] Could be wrong.
[48:50.060 -> 48:54.140] But basically, the biggest concern with them at the minute is money.
[48:54.140 -> 48:56.300] But they're looking to work with Calvin Lowe,
[48:56.300 -> 48:59.380] who I believe I may have mentioned on this podcast previously.
[48:59.380 -> 49:00.260] You did mention that.
[49:00.260 -> 49:04.740] Yeah, he's a Hong Kong businessman worth more than $1.7 billion.
[49:04.740 -> 49:06.400] Is he going to sponsor our pod?
[49:06.880 -> 49:07.600] Let's hope so.
[49:07.680 -> 49:08.840] Calvin, we are available.
[49:11.320 -> 49:15.840] Now he said, uh, he's back in December, he was looking to work with either an
[49:15.840 -> 49:19.960] existing team or to create an entirely new one in order to get into F1.
[49:20.520 -> 49:24.560] So it looks like they're trying to get together and make something happen.
[49:24.880 -> 49:27.200] But whether it will or not, we're not really sure.
[49:27.200 -> 49:28.400] But there you go.
[49:28.400 -> 49:35.200] That is super interesting because like that name, I haven't heard of in a while.
[49:35.200 -> 49:36.200] And they've gone a little bit quiet.
[49:36.200 -> 49:38.200] I guess Andretti's making most of the noise.
[49:38.200 -> 49:45.280] But yeah, so I really don't think we're going to see a new team in the sport until.
[49:45.280 -> 49:51.200] Um, 2026 with the new regulations, nobody's going to show up for a year to learn the new
[49:51.200 -> 49:53.040] engines and then swap new engines.
[49:53.040 -> 49:56.040] I don't see it, but maybe it's crazy, but a couple of people are saying, well, what
[49:56.040 -> 49:57.040] about rich energy?
[49:57.040 -> 50:03.000] And it's like, well, they were just a title sponsor of a team that came on long after
[50:03.000 -> 50:04.000] that.
[50:04.000 -> 50:07.800] And we've had speaking to sponsors, we had nothing, but how many crypto sponsors do we
[50:07.800 -> 50:08.800] have left in F1?
[50:08.800 -> 50:11.800] Cause they're all dying by the wayside.
[50:11.800 -> 50:12.800] Yeah.
[50:12.800 -> 50:17.000] The crypto cold, all the crypto cash is drying up.
[50:17.000 -> 50:30.040] I think the only ones left are the Red Bull with Tezos and some of the exchanges are still around but most of the coins are one of the big ones obviously Mercedes and FTX
[50:31.160 -> 50:33.160] FTX got themselves in a spot of bother
[50:35.120 -> 50:42.240] But yeah, we're losing crypto out of f1 almost as quick as it came in yeah, goodbye RIP. Yep
[50:44.560 -> 50:47.600] Yeah, so that's really like, what do we got?
[50:47.600 -> 50:51.240] So we've got 2023 predictions coming up, but we've got some new stuff coming for the show
[50:51.240 -> 50:52.240] this season.
[50:52.240 -> 50:54.600] We're going to change gears a little bit and talk about the new stuff that we're going
[50:54.600 -> 50:56.400] to bring to the Engine Breaking Podcast.
[50:56.400 -> 50:58.400] And we need your help.
[50:58.400 -> 50:59.400] We do.
[50:59.400 -> 51:02.040] If you're in chat, if you're listening on your commute to work, or you're sitting on
[51:02.040 -> 51:05.240] the toilet and your legs have fallen asleep because you're scrolling on your phone, work or you're sitting on the toilet and your legs have fallen asleep
[51:05.240 -> 51:06.400] because you're scrolling on your phone
[51:06.400 -> 51:07.600] and you've been there for way too long,
[51:07.600 -> 51:08.440] you're avoiding work.
[51:08.440 -> 51:09.640] I mean, Jesus, we're already like 50 minutes
[51:09.640 -> 51:10.480] into the episode.
[51:10.480 -> 51:11.520] If you're still in the toilet
[51:11.520 -> 51:14.280] after starting to listen, then I'm concerned.
[51:14.280 -> 51:15.120] Yeah, that's okay.
[51:15.120 -> 51:17.000] But like, you know, sometimes you,
[51:17.000 -> 51:18.840] work sucks that much and we got you.
[51:18.840 -> 51:20.800] Yeah, if you're at work, drag it out.
[51:20.800 -> 51:23.520] Right, so we're gonna have some stuff.
[51:24.860 -> 51:27.640] We're gonna be, so we've got a couple new games that we want.
[51:27.640 -> 51:29.440] You know, we've got we've got our segments.
[51:29.440 -> 51:32.760] We've got Fraud Watch, which is not going away.
[51:32.760 -> 51:34.000] Fraud Watch is not going away.
[51:34.000 -> 51:35.920] Engine Mode Good Boy Award is a.
[51:36.960 -> 51:39.040] Oh, you think it was a good boy?
[51:39.040 -> 51:39.800] I am.
[51:39.800 -> 51:40.800] I'm a good boy.
[51:40.800 -> 51:41.680] Yeah, that's not going away.
[51:41.680 -> 51:42.400] We're keeping that one.
[51:42.400 -> 51:44.160] But you wanted desperately.
[51:44.160 -> 51:46.400] I had I had to play that one, I had to play that one.
[51:46.800 -> 51:47.640] I had to play that one.
[51:47.640 -> 51:52.120] So I think we're going to start a championship ladder for this season.
[51:52.600 -> 51:55.680] And we're going to call it the world destructor championship.
[51:55.880 -> 51:58.160] And we're going to need some help framing the rules for that.
[51:58.440 -> 52:00.720] Uh, but George Russell won that last season.
[52:00.720 -> 52:02.120] We've all voted on that already.
[52:02.160 -> 52:05.880] WBC world destructor Championship, George Russell.
[52:07.200 -> 52:08.760] So.
[52:08.760 -> 52:10.560] With that, we're basically gonna go with the biggest
[52:10.560 -> 52:12.560] liability, aren't we, of the season?
[52:12.560 -> 52:14.880] Yeah, so I think we'll have a number of points
[52:14.880 -> 52:18.360] for collisions that somebody's in,
[52:18.360 -> 52:21.000] whether you're a passenger, whether you caused it,
[52:21.000 -> 52:24.920] and then bonus points for anything just completely
[52:24.920 -> 52:26.080] brain dead, I think anything just completely brain dead.
[52:26.080 -> 52:32.560] I think anything completely brain dead like will a penalty points.
[52:32.560 -> 52:35.000] Yeah like yes, we'll get them added.
[52:35.000 -> 52:39.720] Yeah, so I guess if you crash yourself and then maybe some points based on the severity
[52:39.720 -> 52:40.720] of it.
[52:40.720 -> 52:47.720] Kevin Magnuson gets the front wing in plate multiplier and meatball flag multiplier for last season as well. So that's a new one
[52:48.820 -> 52:50.080] Then I think
[52:50.080 -> 52:53.420] For we need and we need help come up with a points system for that
[52:53.420 -> 52:55.720] But I think I think you guys can help us out with that
[52:55.720 -> 52:56.580] That'll be awesome
[52:56.580 -> 53:00.240] and that's that'll be a good way to get you guys involved in the community in this and uh
[53:00.400 -> 53:05.040] Maybe we can maybe we can take votes for the penalties applied for certain things.
[53:05.580 -> 53:10.440] And, um, and if you're not involved, um, we'll put a link for the engine breaking
[53:10.500 -> 53:11.220] discord.
[53:11.280 -> 53:13.400] And I think that's going to be another great way.
[53:13.620 -> 53:16.200] If you're not interacting with us on Twitter and everything else, the discord's
[53:16.200 -> 53:17.180] a great spot to be.
[53:17.620 -> 53:19.020] The next one is fraud watch.
[53:19.080 -> 53:21.740] And I think we're going to, we want to change the way the fraud watch works.
[53:21.740 -> 53:22.100] What do you think?
[53:22.100 -> 53:23.300] You want to flesh it out, don't we?
[53:23.300 -> 53:28.940] We want to change the way the fraud watch works. What do you think about that? We want to flesh it out, don't we? We want to flesh it out. So previously fraud watch has just basically been,
[53:28.940 -> 53:32.600] you know, who, who was the fraud of the weekend.
[53:32.600 -> 53:33.960] But now we're going to expand that.
[53:33.960 -> 53:36.200] And we're going to put anyone that goes on a fraud watch
[53:36.200 -> 53:37.800] on like a probation system.
[53:39.320 -> 53:40.860] So if they're on fraud watch,
[53:40.860 -> 53:44.880] then they've got a number of races to on probation.
[53:45.900 -> 53:48.700] And then we're going to probably give ourselves another
[53:48.700 -> 53:49.980] championship for that as well.
[53:50.900 -> 53:51.540] Yeah, I think so.
[53:51.540 -> 53:55.780] Like the, like the, whoever stays on the probation, the longest,
[53:56.320 -> 54:00.400] whoever spends the most days in, in a fraud watch jail.
[54:00.760 -> 54:02.460] Ooh, days or races.
[54:02.460 -> 54:02.800] Well, yeah.
[54:02.800 -> 54:03.260] Races.
[54:03.260 -> 54:03.580] Yeah.
[54:03.620 -> 54:04.140] Okay, fine.
[54:04.420 -> 54:08.400] Cause like, what if you get stuck in fraud watch over, Oh, that could's like what if you get stuck in fraud watch over who that could be one if you get stuck on fraud watch over those
[54:08.400 -> 54:14.480] Summer break. Mm-hmm. You've got three, you know, two three weeks of sitting on the fucking probation list man. Yeah. Yeah, I
[54:15.920 -> 54:19.800] Think that I think that'll be a cool and if you guys have any more great ideas for
[54:20.080 -> 54:23.520] Another another game or two and I was still got engine mode good boy
[54:23.520 -> 54:25.400] And I think if you'd an engine mode good boy
[54:25.400 -> 54:31.680] Maybe that just kind of you know gives you some bonus points. Yeah, five five points for Gryffindor on that one
[54:32.640 -> 54:33.800] Jesus
[54:33.800 -> 54:37.680] You get the sorting hat was that did you add that reference in for Janita?
[54:38.240 -> 54:43.280] No, no, but yeah, she was it the Harry Potter thing today, but yeah now
[54:43.280 -> 54:46.160] I watch every watch Harry Potter every winter with my girlfriend.
[54:46.160 -> 54:48.720] Now, that's an that's an awesome series.
[54:48.720 -> 54:50.400] To be fair, I do too, but with the kids.
[54:50.400 -> 54:51.280] So, yeah.
[54:52.640 -> 54:54.800] So we're going to do more watch alongs.
[54:54.800 -> 54:56.640] You do watch alongs already, right?
[54:56.640 -> 54:58.320] Don't you over on your channel?
[54:58.320 -> 54:59.440] Give it another shout out.
[55:00.160 -> 55:00.560] Yeah, yeah.
[55:00.560 -> 55:03.920] So twitch.tv front slash B R R R A K E.
[55:03.920 -> 55:05.200] We're doing racing.
[55:05.200 -> 55:07.300] We're going to be watching all the races this season.
[55:07.300 -> 55:11.500] I think most of qualifying and races and in the offseason.
[55:11.500 -> 55:16.600] I think we might do a little bit of a historic race watch
[55:16.600 -> 55:20.900] along over on Twitch and there's something super cool that
[55:20.900 -> 55:22.700] you guys can actually watch the race with me.
[55:22.700 -> 55:23.900] That's a work in progress.
[55:24.500 -> 55:25.400] Leave it with me. I'll come work in progress. Leave it with me.
[55:25.400 -> 55:26.100] I'll come back to you.
[55:26.100 -> 55:28.800] I'm not going to say anything more on that right now, but uh,
[55:28.900 -> 55:29.800] watch this space.
[55:30.200 -> 55:30.600] Yep.
[55:30.600 -> 55:34.000] We can we can all watch the 2011 Canadian Grand Prix.
[55:34.600 -> 55:34.900] Yep.
[55:35.000 -> 55:37.600] We're going to rewatch Abu Dhabi 2021 spoiler alert.
[55:37.600 -> 55:39.000] That race was fucking boring.
[55:39.000 -> 55:41.700] I went and watched it the other week just for bands just to see
[55:41.700 -> 55:43.900] is like, you know, is there a good store strategy story or
[55:43.900 -> 55:44.500] anything in it?
[55:44.600 -> 55:50.560] Now that race was boring as hell. Yep. Boring. The 2011 Canadian Grand Prix holds the record.
[55:51.440 -> 55:56.800] I'm just explaining why I said that for the longest F1 race, because it was over four hours
[55:56.800 -> 56:01.760] long because of the red flag periods. And they made a regulation after that, which stipulated
[56:01.760 -> 56:10.560] the maximum race duration, didn't they? Yep., and Jensen button won the race with six pit stops or something ridiculous like that. Oh my god. So yeah
[56:10.560 -> 56:15.440] I love that and time. Yeah, it will sit it will sit through the entire red flag on the screen
[56:15.440 -> 56:16.680] It just talk about it
[56:16.680 -> 56:21.720] We can we can we can do whatever the commentators doing just react to water puddles and then
[56:22.200 -> 56:24.560] We've just gone around that bad. Yes twitch stats
[56:25.280 -> 56:27.880] but and just react to water puddles and the staff we've just got around that pad. There's twitch stats. But so I think that's
[56:27.880 -> 56:29.360] some cool stuff coming from the podcast.
[56:29.360 -> 56:30.400] And if you guys have been around
[56:30.400 -> 56:31.840] for the first 12 episodes
[56:31.840 -> 56:33.520] in the first season in 2022 with us,
[56:34.080 -> 56:34.840] glad to have you.
[56:34.840 -> 56:37.040] But 2023 is here.
[56:37.040 -> 56:39.360] We've got some new cars coming out.
[56:40.400 -> 56:41.600] We've got launch dates.
[56:41.600 -> 56:42.560] We've got launch dates
[56:42.560 -> 56:44.640] for the 2023 season.
[56:44.640 -> 56:48.760] We've got everybody. Mercedes, Red Bull Bull Alfa Romeo and has have not announced them
[56:49.920 -> 56:57.540] It looks like what Williams is first on the sixth. Yeah right now Alpine is the final one on the 16th
[56:58.560 -> 57:04.540] Yeah, Aston and Aston McLaren are both on the 13th. Yeah, what are you doing for Valentine's Day, man?
[57:05.340 -> 57:08.940] For Valentine's Day on the 14th of February, I'm going to be watching the Ferrari launch.
[57:09.500 -> 57:10.140] Oh, okay.
[57:10.300 -> 57:11.220] What does your wife think about that?
[57:11.860 -> 57:12.600] Uh, I don't know.
[57:12.600 -> 57:13.260] She's listening.
[57:13.260 -> 57:15.660] So, um, I'm sure she'll message me and let me know.
[57:16.060 -> 57:18.660] She's like, that's Valentine's day, you rat.
[57:18.780 -> 57:23.500] She just messaged me saying, Oh, historic races was my idea and you didn't like it.
[57:23.500 -> 57:24.240] And now look.
[57:24.700 -> 57:25.160] So yeah. But you look, so yeah.
[57:25.720 -> 57:29.360] But you know, you know what, you didn't like it, but I listened, even though I
[57:29.360 -> 57:34.340] didn't see the text message from your wife and I, it's happening, it's happening.
[57:34.400 -> 57:34.640] Yeah.
[57:34.720 -> 57:38.000] You know, and, and you're actually, you're, you're, you're out of, I'm going to watch
[57:38.000 -> 57:41.240] the historic races on the stream with your wife and she'll join us as well.
[57:41.360 -> 57:41.800] Maybe.
[57:41.800 -> 57:41.960] Yeah.
[57:41.960 -> 57:45.220] Maybe we could get Dan's wife as like a sort of feature.
[57:46.060 -> 57:47.500] That'd be, she'd, she'd love that.
[57:47.540 -> 57:47.820] Yeah.
[57:47.860 -> 57:53.140] But, um, let's, let's get the whole point that you guys come to this podcast is for
[57:53.140 -> 57:55.060] the shit house or in the fraudulence.
[57:55.080 -> 58:02.440] So I think it's time to get into our 2023 predictions based on nothing but the end of
[58:02.440 -> 58:04.080] 2022 and pure vibes.
[58:04.140 -> 58:06.980] Anybody that says anything else is full of shit
[58:06.980 -> 58:09.660] and they can't be more full of shit than us.
[58:09.660 -> 58:14.120] So I've not put in, I've not thought about this at all.
[58:14.120 -> 58:18.980] Right, so this is going to be raw and straight out.
[58:18.980 -> 58:19.820] Yeah.
[58:19.820 -> 58:24.820] So winning Mercedes, I'm doing it.
[58:24.820 -> 58:25.000] I said it. Okay. I'm doing it.
[58:25.000 -> 58:26.000] I've said it.
[58:26.000 -> 58:27.000] I'll see you later.
[58:27.000 -> 58:28.000] Okay.
[58:28.000 -> 58:29.000] All right.
[58:29.000 -> 58:30.000] All right.
[58:30.000 -> 58:31.000] Clip this.
[58:31.000 -> 58:32.000] I'm clipping this right now.
[58:32.000 -> 58:33.000] Dan.
[58:33.000 -> 58:34.000] Okay.
[58:34.000 -> 58:36.000] Dan's 2023 World Constructors Championship is Merc.
[58:36.000 -> 58:37.560] Merc gonna pull it back out.
[58:37.560 -> 58:38.560] Yep.
[58:38.560 -> 58:39.560] I think so.
[58:39.560 -> 58:40.560] Okay.
[58:40.560 -> 58:42.000] I'm going to go with Red Bull.
[58:42.000 -> 58:43.000] Yep.
[58:43.000 -> 58:45.320] Because you still need to talk to them
[58:45.320 -> 58:47.200] about making some content for them.
[58:47.200 -> 58:48.040] Yeah, exactly.
[58:48.040 -> 58:51.560] No, but I genuinely think,
[58:51.560 -> 58:52.800] we'll talk about Ferrari next,
[58:52.800 -> 58:55.200] but we're talking about Red Bull and Mercedes.
[58:55.200 -> 58:57.440] I think Mercedes are still going to struggle
[58:57.440 -> 58:58.880] to close that performance gap
[58:58.880 -> 59:00.640] that they had at the end of the season.
[59:00.640 -> 59:04.220] They've also, it seems like in one of the media outlets,
[59:05.540 -> 59:08.600] they're sticking with the no pods, apparently,
[59:08.600 -> 59:09.860] which is interesting.
[59:09.860 -> 59:11.720] And there's a whole lot of other things going on.
[59:11.720 -> 59:12.880] It's not just the no pods,
[59:12.880 -> 59:15.840] why that car had a lot of technical difficulties.
[59:15.840 -> 59:16.880] Do we know all of them? No.
[59:16.880 -> 59:18.160] Can we speculate? Yes.
[59:18.160 -> 59:19.240] Can I speculate?
[59:19.240 -> 59:20.280] Can I speculate?
[59:20.280 -> 59:21.660] Yes, I can.
[59:21.660 -> 59:24.320] But yeah, I'm not sure.
[59:24.320 -> 59:25.840] I'm not sure Mercedes is going to close that. Are
[59:25.840 -> 59:29.340] they going to be closer this season? They have to be. There's no way Mercedes and not
[59:29.340 -> 59:34.440] going to start closing that gap at an even faster rate. Yeah, but but I mean, let's be
[59:34.440 -> 59:38.880] honest, the no pods was a disadvantage locked in for years, and they'll finally maybe catch
[59:38.880 -> 59:47.360] up with that. Yeah, you don't need a wind tunnel to see that. Now this is actually a really shit podcast.
[59:55.520 -> 59:56.400] I've gone for Mercedes right because I think off the bat Red Bull gonna be quick right because
[01:00:03.440 -> 01:00:05.980] the wind tunnel penalty and CFD penalty isn't going to affect them right the 2023 car is done the launch car's done right I think as we go through the season Mercedes are going to affect them. All right, the 2023 car is done, the launch car's done, right?
[01:00:05.980 -> 01:00:08.120] I think as we go through the season,
[01:00:08.120 -> 01:00:10.080] Mercedes are going to out-develop them
[01:00:10.080 -> 01:00:13.640] and we're going to end up with another last race scenario.
[01:00:13.640 -> 01:00:15.100] Yeah.
[01:00:15.100 -> 01:00:17.000] I don't think Ferrari got the dog in them.
[01:00:17.000 -> 01:00:18.960] I think they're going to go for a rebuild year.
[01:00:18.960 -> 01:00:21.280] I think they're going to be too busy beefing McLaren
[01:00:21.280 -> 01:00:23.720] and Alpine to worry about the front.
[01:00:23.720 -> 01:00:26.000] I don't see Ferrari back until 2026.
[01:00:26.000 -> 01:00:26.840] Mm-hmm.
[01:00:27.800 -> 01:00:30.680] I think Williams will be at the bottom.
[01:00:30.680 -> 01:00:35.440] I don't think that's too, too spicy.
[01:00:36.840 -> 01:00:40.000] No, that's not particularly a hot take for Wednesday.
[01:00:40.000 -> 01:00:42.280] Are you stealing WTF1 segments again, Dan?
[01:00:42.280 -> 01:00:43.600] Yeah, yeah, I am.
[01:00:44.780 -> 01:00:47.240] Okay. You've done it again. Are you still in WTF1 segments again, Dan? Yeah, yeah I am. OK.
[01:00:47.240 -> 01:00:48.160] You've done it again.
[01:00:48.160 -> 01:00:50.660] You've completely thrown me off what I was talking about now.
[01:00:50.660 -> 01:00:52.800] Sorry.
[01:00:52.800 -> 01:00:56.600] Give me a real spicy take.
[01:00:56.600 -> 01:00:58.680] Do you want to know what my spicy take is?
[01:00:58.680 -> 01:00:59.200] Go on.
[01:00:59.200 -> 01:01:01.000] Or spicy prediction.
[01:01:01.000 -> 01:01:01.480] Go on.
[01:01:01.480 -> 01:01:04.680] Alonzo's going to win a race.
[01:01:04.680 -> 01:01:07.000] He's going to shithouse a victory.
[01:01:07.000 -> 01:01:12.000] To be fair, Feddell almost did in Baku, wasn't it?
[01:01:12.000 -> 01:01:13.000] A while back.
[01:01:13.000 -> 01:01:18.560] It's going to be like a spa situation where George Russell just went and did one lap and
[01:01:18.560 -> 01:01:19.560] finished second.
[01:01:19.560 -> 01:01:20.560] Yeah.
[01:01:20.560 -> 01:01:24.760] Is George, George Russell's going to do a Valtteri Bottas Hungary and take out the leaders?
[01:01:24.760 -> 01:01:25.240] Yeah. It's George. George Russell's going to do a Valtteri Bottas hungry and take out the leaders. Yeah.
[01:01:25.340 -> 01:01:30.260] And Alonzo's just can be like, ha ha, calmer and drive off like he normally does.
[01:01:31.660 -> 01:01:34.520] Um, he'll launch it off another car again.
[01:01:35.940 -> 01:01:36.440] Oh yeah.
[01:01:36.460 -> 01:01:40.700] The dude, he get into the trajectory for getting into lower orbit and land it back
[01:01:40.700 -> 01:01:45.240] on the track and that tank, but it'll be in the Aston tank, not the Alpine
[01:01:45.240 -> 01:01:46.240] tank.
[01:01:46.240 -> 01:01:53.080] Ooh, I, all right, here's, here's what I'm thinking.
[01:01:53.080 -> 01:01:58.880] I think it's going to be Red Bull, Mercedes, Ferrari.
[01:01:58.880 -> 01:02:02.640] I think that McLaren will be Alpine.
[01:02:02.640 -> 01:02:03.640] Yeah.
[01:02:03.640 -> 01:02:07.320] I think, I think Aston will move up.
[01:02:07.320 -> 01:02:08.240] Has Sauber.
[01:02:08.240 -> 01:02:10.960] Whatever Toroso need to improve if
[01:02:10.960 -> 01:02:14.320] Toroso sitting back in what P9 again.
[01:02:14.320 -> 01:02:16.200] That's bad, that's bad and we'll
[01:02:16.200 -> 01:02:18.400] get into that in a second.
[01:02:18.400 -> 01:02:20.120] Williams, I don't see them coming
[01:02:20.120 -> 01:02:22.440] off the back of the grid with the
[01:02:22.440 -> 01:02:24.080] technical shakeup that they've had.
[01:02:24.080 -> 01:02:28.480] And you know Alex, I think Alex is doing a good job.
[01:02:28.480 -> 01:02:29.480] Here's my hot take.
[01:02:29.480 -> 01:02:30.480] Go for it.
[01:02:30.480 -> 01:02:31.600] I'm just throwing it out there.
[01:02:31.600 -> 01:02:37.000] I think I think Russell will beat Lewis and the driver's championship.
[01:02:37.000 -> 01:02:41.120] And I don't think we're going to have any.
[01:02:41.120 -> 01:02:42.480] There's always going to be excuses.
[01:02:42.480 -> 01:02:46.360] And I, but I think, I think Russell's been pretty decent,
[01:02:46.360 -> 01:02:47.360] man.
[01:02:47.360 -> 01:02:48.360] I know he's been lucky.
[01:02:48.360 -> 01:02:51.160] I agree he's been lucky, being a lot of people lucky all the time.
[01:02:51.160 -> 01:02:57.200] I think that Russell's actually pretty good, and I think it depends on Lewis's motivation
[01:02:57.200 -> 01:03:00.800] level this year, how they're going to do in testing, how they do in the first race.
[01:03:00.800 -> 01:03:04.400] If Lewis doesn't think they're going to do it, I don't think he's going to burn himself
[01:03:04.400 -> 01:03:05.160] out.
[01:03:05.160 -> 01:03:06.160] You know what I'm saying?
[01:03:06.160 -> 01:03:08.760] I don't think he's going to spend, you know, like, you know, you know, with same machinery
[01:03:08.760 -> 01:03:13.440] Rosberg, he, he dug, he, he dug deep for that championship.
[01:03:13.440 -> 01:03:14.440] Yeah.
[01:03:14.440 -> 01:03:15.680] And it ruined him.
[01:03:15.680 -> 01:03:16.680] Yeah, exactly.
[01:03:16.680 -> 01:03:18.120] I think Lewis is smart.
[01:03:18.120 -> 01:03:19.360] Lewis is much smarter than that.
[01:03:19.360 -> 01:03:22.360] Lewis is like, if I don't think I'm going to do it, I'm not going to fucking burn, you
[01:03:22.360 -> 01:03:23.680] know, burn the candle all the way.
[01:03:23.680 -> 01:03:24.680] I'll, I'll save some.
[01:03:24.680 -> 01:03:25.680] He knows what he's doing.
[01:03:25.680 -> 01:03:31.200] I don't know what Lewis's contract situation is, but if another spicy take is if Lewis
[01:03:31.200 -> 01:03:33.440] doesn't win his eighth this year, I think he just retires.
[01:03:34.800 -> 01:03:39.040] Yeah, but it's, I don't want to see him leave either.
[01:03:39.040 -> 01:03:40.000] I know.
[01:03:40.000 -> 01:03:44.640] Because there's like, there's like, there's, there's only a handful of top caliber drivers
[01:03:44.640 -> 01:03:45.080] right now.
[01:03:45.080 -> 01:03:45.320] No.
[01:03:45.360 -> 01:03:46.480] So you know, what's going to happen?
[01:03:46.720 -> 01:03:47.320] Hear me out.
[01:03:47.960 -> 01:03:48.240] Go on.
[01:03:49.160 -> 01:03:51.840] Lawrence Stroll is going to sack Alonzo.
[01:03:53.120 -> 01:03:54.800] Even though he wins a race this season.
[01:03:54.840 -> 01:03:55.080] Yeah.
[01:03:55.200 -> 01:03:55.480] All right.
[01:03:55.500 -> 01:03:56.160] Mid season.
[01:03:56.160 -> 01:03:57.000] He's going to sack him at the end.
[01:03:57.000 -> 01:03:57.200] Yeah.
[01:03:57.400 -> 01:03:59.480] Lewis is going to decide to retire.
[01:04:00.080 -> 01:04:00.200] Yeah.
[01:04:00.200 -> 01:04:00.480] Right.
[01:04:01.480 -> 01:04:04.640] But Lawrence Stroll tents him back with a large amount of money.
[01:04:05.720 -> 01:04:11.580] So Lawrence Stroll tents him back with a large amount of money. So Lawrence Stroll can have another chance against another world champion because he's
[01:04:11.580 -> 01:04:16.560] now been against Vettel, he's going to be against Alonso, and now he's going to get
[01:04:16.560 -> 01:04:18.680] a chance against Lewis.
[01:04:18.680 -> 01:04:24.800] So basically what he's trying to do is collect infinity stones that his son can drive against
[01:04:24.800 -> 01:04:25.080] former world championship. Okay, okay. he's trying to do is collect infinity stones that his son can drive against for his former
[01:04:25.080 -> 01:04:26.080] world championship.
[01:04:26.080 -> 01:04:33.320] Okay, okay, that's, man, that's some kind of sick wet dream, isn't it?
[01:04:33.320 -> 01:04:35.040] Danny Rick replaces Perez mid-season.
[01:04:35.040 -> 01:04:41.600] Oh my god, we haven't talked about that, but Danny Rick has been announced as the third
[01:04:41.600 -> 01:04:45.440] driver at Red Bull, which is an interesting way to say
[01:04:51.120 -> 01:04:57.520] reserve driver. We like you, we like to have you hang around, but we're not really sure what we're going to do with you yet. But yeah, but it keeps him in the paddock, keeps him front of mind,
[01:04:57.520 -> 01:05:08.240] which will be super important for getting back on the grid. But that's an interesting one. And Mick Schumacher as well. He's a reserve driver at Mercedes.
[01:05:08.240 -> 01:05:09.240] Yeah.
[01:05:09.240 -> 01:05:10.240] Yeah.
[01:05:10.240 -> 01:05:11.240] Okay.
[01:05:11.240 -> 01:05:12.240] Official title.
[01:05:12.240 -> 01:05:13.240] Yeah.
[01:05:13.240 -> 01:05:14.240] So we got Mick Schumacher as well.
[01:05:14.240 -> 01:05:15.240] He managed to stay in, in some form or another.
[01:05:15.240 -> 01:05:16.240] Yeah.
[01:05:16.240 -> 01:05:20.240] I'm not sure if I have any other spicy takes.
[01:05:20.240 -> 01:05:21.760] Oh, let's go for the rookies.
[01:05:21.760 -> 01:05:22.760] Right.
[01:05:22.760 -> 01:05:23.760] So let's talk about them.
[01:05:23.760 -> 01:05:25.760] We got three new rookies, right? But
[01:05:25.760 -> 01:05:31.760] right. Arguably, I'm not sure if one of them counts. So we got Nick DeVries in the Alpha
[01:05:31.760 -> 01:05:39.040] Tauri. Yeah. Oscar Piastri in the McLaren and Logan Sargent in the Williams. Yep. Now Nick has
[01:05:39.040 -> 01:05:45.080] obviously already done a race. Was it a race or two? I can't remember now. He definitely did Monza.
[01:05:45.080 -> 01:05:46.080] I'm drawing a brain fit.
[01:05:46.080 -> 01:05:47.080] I don't remember anything I can look up.
[01:05:47.080 -> 01:05:51.080] Because Albon decided to have his appendix explode.
[01:05:51.080 -> 01:05:52.080] Yeah, dummy.
[01:05:52.080 -> 01:05:55.080] So, yeah, so is Nick a rookie?
[01:05:55.080 -> 01:05:56.080] I don't know.
[01:05:56.080 -> 01:05:59.080] I mean, it's going to be his rookie season, isn't it?
[01:05:59.080 -> 01:06:00.080] So, yeah.
[01:06:00.080 -> 01:06:06.540] Right, Nick DeVries versus Yuki Tsunoda and AlphaTauri.
[01:06:06.540 -> 01:06:07.540] Who's going to come out on top?
[01:06:08.740 -> 01:06:09.540] I don't know, man.
[01:06:09.540 -> 01:06:12.740] It just, I think, I think Yuki's still kind of volatile.
[01:06:12.780 -> 01:06:15.940] I want to see Yuki come out on top of that one because that will mean that,
[01:06:17.020 -> 01:06:18.780] you know, they're like, all right, here's the real deal.
[01:06:18.860 -> 01:06:21.420] And then, but if, if Yuki beats him, I think Nick's done.
[01:06:23.100 -> 01:06:25.000] I really like Yuki, but I'm swaying I think Nick's done. I really like Yuki.
[01:06:25.000 -> 01:06:26.000] Me too.
[01:06:26.000 -> 01:06:28.000] But I'm swaying more towards Nick.
[01:06:28.000 -> 01:06:29.000] Okay.
[01:06:29.000 -> 01:06:32.000] I see that one as well, because like...
[01:06:32.000 -> 01:06:33.000] Just on vibes.
[01:06:33.000 -> 01:06:34.000] Yeah, on vibes.
[01:06:34.000 -> 01:06:35.000] That's the way...
[01:06:35.000 -> 01:06:38.000] I mean, he beat me on Formula E, didn't he?
[01:06:38.000 -> 01:06:39.000] So...
[01:06:39.000 -> 01:06:40.000] Yeah, but I think he was a little...
[01:06:40.000 -> 01:06:41.000] He's not a slouch.
[01:06:41.000 -> 01:06:43.000] But I think he's a bit all over the shop as well.
[01:06:43.000 -> 01:06:45.540] Who cares about Formula E anyway? Everything and nothing. Did you know Formula E starts this weekend but I think he's a bit all over the shop as well who cares about formula everything everything or nothing
[01:06:46.000 -> 01:06:51.180] Did you know formula e starts this weekend? I think I had no idea actually you did
[01:06:51.180 -> 01:06:55.160] Okay, I had no idea because I I spend far too much time on Twitter
[01:06:55.840 -> 01:07:01.440] Okay, all right touch grass might touch grass. No, so I'm not doing that for my new year's resolution
[01:07:02.220 -> 01:07:06.700] Okay in the McLaren. We've got Oscar Piastri.
[01:07:06.800 -> 01:07:07.200] No, I'm sorry.
[01:07:07.200 -> 01:07:08.500] He's driving for Alpine, isn't it?
[01:07:08.500 -> 01:07:09.100] No, wait, no.
[01:07:09.400 -> 01:07:09.800] Sorry.
[01:07:10.000 -> 01:07:12.400] You announced that without his permission.
[01:07:12.900 -> 01:07:13.200] Sorry.
[01:07:13.200 -> 01:07:13.500] Whatever.
[01:07:13.500 -> 01:07:13.800] Sorry.
[01:07:13.800 -> 01:07:14.500] The tweet is.
[01:07:15.200 -> 01:07:15.400] Yeah.
[01:07:15.400 -> 01:07:16.200] Piastri v.
[01:07:16.200 -> 01:07:16.600] Lando.
[01:07:16.600 -> 01:07:17.800] I think Lando smacks him.
[01:07:18.300 -> 01:07:19.400] Oh, yeah.
[01:07:19.400 -> 01:07:21.800] But I don't know about smacks.
[01:07:23.000 -> 01:07:23.500] Hmm.
[01:07:23.500 -> 01:07:23.800] All right.
[01:07:23.800 -> 01:07:24.000] All right.
[01:07:24.000 -> 01:07:24.700] So here's the thing.
[01:07:24.700 -> 01:07:28.000] Does he destroy him or does Piastri hold his own?
[01:07:29.800 -> 01:07:30.480] Um.
[01:07:31.960 -> 01:07:34.600] Is it controversial to say no, I don't think so, but I think Oscars
[01:07:34.600 -> 01:07:37.000] would be a lot closer to land on what Danny was.
[01:07:37.920 -> 01:07:39.200] OK, yeah, I think so.
[01:07:39.200 -> 01:07:43.080] Like if he's if he's spends the whole season struggling as much
[01:07:43.080 -> 01:07:47.400] as Daniel did with that car, that's going to be very bad and you're going to start to wonder,
[01:07:47.400 -> 01:07:50.200] this is the dude that aced F3, F2,
[01:07:50.200 -> 01:07:53.800] and he's rocking up into the big leagues and he's dominated everybody.
[01:07:53.800 -> 01:07:55.800] Yeah.
[01:07:55.800 -> 01:08:00.600] I mean, if he does, if Piastri beats Lando,
[01:08:00.600 -> 01:08:04.800] then I think that's major.
[01:08:04.800 -> 01:08:05.000] Yeah, that's not to say, that doesn't say that Lando's trash. I think L that's major.
[01:08:05.080 -> 01:08:08.440] Yeah, that's not to say, that doesn't say that Lando's trash.
[01:08:08.440 -> 01:08:09.640] I think Lando's excellent.
[01:08:09.640 -> 01:08:11.400] That says that Piastri's probably the real deal.
[01:08:11.400 -> 01:08:13.580] They're all fucking trash, every single one.
[01:08:13.580 -> 01:08:14.420] All of them are liquid.
[01:08:14.420 -> 01:08:16.440] They're all middle-aged.
[01:08:16.440 -> 01:08:18.120] Yeah, all right.
[01:08:18.120 -> 01:08:18.960] Next.
[01:08:18.960 -> 01:08:19.780] What do we got left?
[01:08:19.780 -> 01:08:22.620] Logan Sargent versus Alvin in the Williams.
[01:08:24.240 -> 01:08:28.500] To me, right, this is gonna be a Mick Schumacher versus Mazepin situation
[01:08:28.500 -> 01:08:31.500] because I think that car is just going to be trash this year.
[01:08:31.500 -> 01:08:34.500] So I really don't know how you're going to compare these two.
[01:08:34.500 -> 01:08:38.500] I think Albon is going to smack him around.
[01:08:38.500 -> 01:08:41.500] I don't think he's going to Latifi dumpster him,
[01:08:41.500 -> 01:08:44.000] but I think Albon is actually solid.
[01:08:44.000 -> 01:08:46.520] Yeah, I think Albon's got that dog in him.
[01:08:46.520 -> 01:08:48.640] Yeah, Albon's a fucking dude.
[01:08:48.640 -> 01:08:49.800] He's got a lot of experience.
[01:08:49.800 -> 01:08:51.080] He's super mature.
[01:08:51.080 -> 01:08:55.160] He's had his gut stamped out of him.
[01:08:55.160 -> 01:08:56.160] I think he's got in him.
[01:08:56.160 -> 01:09:03.200] I think he's come back a refreshed man after his red bull shunt, as it were.
[01:09:03.200 -> 01:09:07.360] Yeah, I think, and he's got rid of his appendix so he's lost a couple, like, 100 grams or
[01:09:07.360 -> 01:09:08.360] something.
[01:09:08.360 -> 01:09:09.360] It's true, yeah.
[01:09:09.360 -> 01:09:11.080] Didn't you think you'd have worked out what the lap time would be?
[01:09:11.080 -> 01:09:12.080] Yeah.
[01:09:12.080 -> 01:09:14.080] Like 0.002 or something ridiculous.
[01:09:14.080 -> 01:09:16.840] 0.000, it's like four zeros or something, yeah.
[01:09:16.840 -> 01:09:17.840] There you go.
[01:09:17.840 -> 01:09:18.840] See, coming edge analysis.
[01:09:18.840 -> 01:09:23.880] It was like a couple tenths of a millisecond of lap time from that appendix being removed.
[01:09:23.880 -> 01:09:27.640] But he could have had an abnormally large appendix because those do vary quite a bit
[01:09:27.640 -> 01:09:29.680] medically speaking.
[01:09:29.680 -> 01:09:31.680] This is such a bullshit podcast, man.
[01:09:31.680 -> 01:09:32.680] Yep.
[01:09:32.680 -> 01:09:35.760] If you're still with us and if you're new and you're going to stay with us, I really
[01:09:35.760 -> 01:09:36.760] appreciate that.
[01:09:36.760 -> 01:09:40.000] And if you're still on the toilet and your legs are fully asleep, it's time to go back
[01:09:40.000 -> 01:09:41.000] to your desk.
[01:09:41.000 -> 01:09:42.000] I know you hate your job.
[01:09:42.000 -> 01:09:43.000] Come on bro, people are asking about where you are.
[01:09:43.000 -> 01:09:44.000] Come on.
[01:09:44.000 -> 01:09:50.280] Yeah, exactly. But anyway, I think, I think that wraps up the first episode of Engine
[01:09:50.280 -> 01:09:51.280] Braking for 2023.
[01:09:51.280 -> 01:09:52.280] Yeah, welcome back baby.
[01:09:52.280 -> 01:09:57.040] You got anything else to say? What do we, what's your plan for the next couple of weeks?
[01:09:57.040 -> 01:09:58.040] What's going on with you?
[01:09:58.040 -> 01:09:59.520] I have no fucking plans whatsoever.
[01:09:59.520 -> 01:10:03.960] Are we, are we going to get any Engine Mode 11 YouTubes right now or are we sleeping?
[01:10:03.960 -> 01:10:07.000] Actually, you know what? I do have a plan and it's for this year.
[01:10:07.000 -> 01:10:08.000] Talk to me.
[01:10:08.000 -> 01:10:11.000] One of my New Year's resolutions is to do more cooking, right?
[01:10:11.000 -> 01:10:13.000] Because I don't do a lot of cooking.
[01:10:13.000 -> 01:10:14.000] Okay.
[01:10:14.000 -> 01:10:16.000] And I'd like to learn to do a bit more cooking.
[01:10:16.000 -> 01:10:20.000] So my New Year's resolution this year is to do...
[01:10:20.000 -> 01:10:23.000] Your wife's in there like this. She's like, oh yes.
[01:10:23.000 -> 01:10:25.600] Because you've been posting some pictures on the, on the, on the
[01:10:25.600 -> 01:10:26.600] center nets, man.
[01:10:26.600 -> 01:10:28.120] I've done some looking good, bro.
[01:10:28.640 -> 01:10:31.320] I've got a new chopping board and knife set for Christmas.
[01:10:31.600 -> 01:10:32.600] W right.
[01:10:33.160 -> 01:10:33.800] That's good stuff.
[01:10:33.800 -> 01:10:34.160] Isn't it?
[01:10:34.240 -> 01:10:34.520] Yeah.
[01:10:34.520 -> 01:10:37.920] I'm bringing out gas 11 gas, Mark 11, bro.
[01:10:37.920 -> 01:10:43.360] And, uh, I'm going to try and do a dish from every country that we're racing at.
[01:10:44.360 -> 01:10:46.020] Dude, that is actually cool.
[01:10:46.020 -> 01:10:48.700] We should introduce that segment on here as well.
[01:10:48.700 -> 01:10:49.860] We should talk about it.
[01:10:49.860 -> 01:10:54.180] Yeah, so if I come on to a podcast
[01:10:54.180 -> 01:10:55.860] and I look like I've been throwing up a lot,
[01:10:55.860 -> 01:10:57.480] you know it hasn't gone well.
[01:10:57.480 -> 01:10:58.320] Yeah, cool.
[01:10:59.180 -> 01:11:00.220] Yeah, what was that?
[01:11:01.340 -> 01:11:03.420] What was that, chicken sashimi again?
[01:11:03.420 -> 01:11:06.600] Oh no, oh no Dan.
[01:11:06.600 -> 01:11:07.600] So that's awesome.
[01:11:07.600 -> 01:11:08.600] Gasmark 11.
[01:11:08.600 -> 01:11:11.560] Uh, British GP beans on toast.
[01:11:11.560 -> 01:11:12.560] Get the buggin beans.
[01:11:12.560 -> 01:11:17.080] Yeah, for the British Grand Prix I might just stand outside the gate and do a full English
[01:11:17.080 -> 01:11:19.120] breakfast on a cooking stove.
[01:11:19.120 -> 01:11:22.280] Yeah, I'd love that.
[01:11:22.280 -> 01:11:23.280] Let's rock and roll.
[01:11:23.280 -> 01:11:26.380] So I'm going to keep rocking and rolling on break F1 on YouTube
[01:11:26.380 -> 01:11:32.060] and TikTok. I've got a bunch of things coming soon. We've got a Sebastian Vettel career
[01:11:32.060 -> 01:11:36.560] video that I'm going to be releasing next week. I'm so hyped about that because that
[01:11:36.560 -> 01:11:41.720] was really cool to go relive his career. I'm streaming on Twitch several days a week playing
[01:11:41.720 -> 01:11:48.360] escape from Tarkov and we're going to start. We're going to start adding Formula One watch alongs in the build up. We might do a little bit of
[01:11:48.360 -> 01:11:53.640] testing watch long or just maybe a testing summary where I present the analysis. I don't
[01:11:53.640 -> 01:11:59.640] know, like I don't know if I want to watch testing testing. Maybe we'll do like a one
[01:11:59.640 -> 01:12:05.120] of us will do it. Somebody will do it. Watch along for that, but I got nothing better to do. Let's
[01:12:05.120 -> 01:12:13.400] be real. Me neither. No, but that's it. So be sure to check us out. We'll drop the link
[01:12:13.400 -> 01:12:17.520] for the discord. You guys can help us pick out some of the rules and segments for the
[01:12:17.520 -> 01:12:26.000] world destructors championship, which George Russell definitely won last year. We'll get the new Fraud Watch
[01:12:26.000 -> 01:12:28.000] ladder going
[01:12:28.000 -> 01:12:30.000] and we're going to have a great...
[01:12:30.000 -> 01:12:32.000] Like and subscribe and
[01:12:32.000 -> 01:12:34.000] tell your nan and
[01:12:34.000 -> 01:12:36.000] also big up your local butcher
[01:12:36.000 -> 01:12:38.000] in the comments.
[01:12:38.000 -> 01:12:40.000] You guys have a great day.
[01:12:40.000 -> 01:12:42.000] Thank you for supporting this podcast.
[01:12:42.000 -> 01:12:44.000] Thank you for hanging out with us. We'll have another
[01:12:44.000 -> 01:12:46.000] episode in probably two weeks.
[01:12:46.000 -> 01:12:47.000] Sure, why not?
[01:12:47.000 -> 01:12:49.000] Hopefully something interesting happens.
[01:12:49.000 -> 01:12:51.000] Hopefully we don't catch COVID again.
[01:12:51.000 -> 01:12:52.000] Yeah, that would be terrible.
[01:12:52.000 -> 01:12:54.000] Alright, you frauds.
[01:12:54.000 -> 01:12:55.000] We'll see you soon.
[01:12:55.000 -> 01:12:56.000] Fuck off.