Ep11 - Abu Dhabi GP

The boys look at the last race of the season, it has been emotional

• Blake becomes a carpenter
• Dan's YouTube career
• New Drivers Arriving
• Old Drivers Leaving
• Ferrari managed a good strategy?

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# Formula One: Abu Dhabi Grand Prix Review and Season Wrap-Up

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## Episode Summary:

In this episode, hosts Dan, aka Engine Mode 11, and Blake, aka Break Echo Chambers of Farts and Idiots on Twitter, delve into the final race of the 2022 Formula One season, the Abu Dhabi Grand Prix. They discuss the emotional rollercoaster of the race, including the retirement of Sebastian Vettel, the arrival of new drivers, and the departure of experienced ones. They also analyze Ferrari's strategy and debate whether it was effective.

### Key Topics:

- The emotional impact of the final race of the season
- Retirement of Sebastian Vettel and his contributions to the sport
- Arrival of new drivers and their potential impact
- Departure of experienced drivers and their legacies
- Ferrari's strategy and its effectiveness
- Controversies and particularly insightful moments during the race

### Notable Quotes:

- "I love that intro. Love that intro." - Dan
- "It's the engine breaking F1 podcast. I just kind of want to let that intro like vibe out for a little bit." - Blake
- "I would have given Mick another year." - Blake
- "I don't work or manage an F1 team. I just sit here and make this shite podcast, so what the fuck do I know?" - Blake
- "I think they were let down a lot more from strategy and things like that. So intelligent." - Dan
- "Sebastian Vettel retires. And it's been pretty interesting because when I was, I didn't start watching F Formula One until 2007-ish. And when I was finishing up uni and moving over here was the Red Bull glory days and seeing that, that was so freaking motivating to see the fizzy drinks company, right? It can be this super nimble organization. They get a bunch of really clever engineers and they rock up and they destroy these other teams that are, you know, automotive manufacturers, they're factory backed teams. And you see that and it's like, that is so cool. I want to be a part of that." - Dan
- "I got emotional because I was listening to it as I was driving through London yeah I was just I was emotional yeah I was shouting at taxi drivers and bus drivers and delivery riders and things like that." - Dan
- "I'm a big fan of Lawson. When we were going to it from the track, I was in the..." - Blake

### Episode Structure:

- Introduction and banter between the hosts
- Discussion of the Abu Dhabi Grand Prix
- Analysis of Ferrari's strategy
- Debate on the effectiveness of Ferrari's strategy
- Discussion of the retirement of Sebastian Vettel and his contributions to the sport
- Mention of the arrival of new drivers and their potential impact
- Brief mention of the departure of experienced drivers and their legacies
- Concluding remarks and wrap-up

### Analysis:

The episode provides an informative and engaging review of the Abu Dhabi Grand Prix and the 2022 Formula One season as a whole. The hosts offer their insights and perspectives on various aspects of the race, including the retirement of Sebastian Vettel, the arrival of new drivers, and the departure of experienced ones. They also analyze Ferrari's strategy and debate its effectiveness. The episode is well-structured and flows smoothly, with clear transitions between topics.

### Overall:

This episode of the Engine Breaking podcast offers an insightful and entertaining review of the Abu Dhabi Grand Prix and the 2022 Formula One season. The hosts' enthusiasm for the sport and their knowledge of the technical and strategic aspects of Formula One make for a compelling listen. The episode is sure to appeal to both casual and hardcore fans of the sport. **Race Summary:**

* The Abu Dhabi Grand Prix was the final race of the 2022 Formula One season.
* Red Bull secured a front-row lockout in qualifying, with Max Verstappen taking pole position and Sergio Perez alongside him.
* The race was predominantly a two-stop strategy, with some drivers attempting a one-stop.
* Charles Leclerc and Carlos Sainz of Ferrari finished second and third, respectively.
* George Russell and Lewis Hamilton of Mercedes finished fourth and fifth, respectively.
* Lando Norris and Esteban Ocon finished sixth and seventh for McLaren and Alpine, respectively.
* Fernando Alonso and Sebastian Vettel finished in the points for Aston Martin.
* Kevin Magnussen and Nyck de Vries scored points for Haas and AlphaTauri, respectively.

**Key Insights and Perspectives:**

* The race was less dramatic compared to the previous year's Abu Dhabi Grand Prix, which was decided on the final lap.
* The two-stop strategy proved to be the more effective approach, with the one-stop strategy struggling to maintain pace.
* Ferrari's strategy for Leclerc and Sainz allowed them to challenge for the podium positions.
* Mercedes struggled to match the pace of Red Bull and Ferrari, with Hamilton expressing issues with brake temperature splits.
* McLaren and Alpine had strong performances, with Norris and Ocon finishing in the points.
* Alonso and Vettel had solid races, securing points for Aston Martin in their final races with the team.
* Magnussen and de Vries scored points in their final races for Haas and AlphaTauri, respectively.

**Controversies and Memorable Moments:**

* There was a minor incident during qualifying, with Verstappen impeding Hamilton on his final lap, leading to discussions about potential penalties.
* The race strategy decisions by the teams were closely analyzed, with some questioning Ferrari's choice to pit Leclerc for a second time.
* The battle between Perez and Leclerc for second place was intense, with Perez closing the gap in the final laps.
* The retirement of Alex Albon from Williams due to a technical issue was a disappointing end to his season.

**Overall Message:**

The Abu Dhabi Grand Prix provided a fitting conclusion to the 2022 Formula One season, with exciting racing and strategic battles. Red Bull dominated the weekend, securing a front-row lockout in qualifying and a one-two finish in the race. Ferrari and Mercedes followed closely behind, while McLaren, Alpine, Aston Martin, Haas, and AlphaTauri also had strong performances. The race marked the end of the season for several drivers and team members, making it an emotional and memorable event. ## 2022 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix: Season Finale Recap

### Race Summary

* The final race of the 2022 Formula One season took place at the Yas Marina Circuit in Abu Dhabi, United Arab Emirates.
* Max Verstappen of Red Bull Racing secured his second consecutive World Drivers' Championship with a dominant victory.
* Sergio Perez of Red Bull Racing finished in second place, followed by Charles Leclerc of Scuderia Ferrari in third.

### Key Moments

* Lewis Hamilton of Mercedes suffered a hydraulics issue early in the race, forcing him to retire from the competition.
* George Russell of Mercedes also faced challenges during the race, including an unsafe pit stop release that resulted in a five-second penalty.
* Fernando Alonso of Alpine experienced a water leak that led to his retirement from the race.
* Sebastian Vettel of Aston Martin finished in 10th place in his final Formula One race before retirement.
* The race featured several retirements and incidents, including a synchronized spin involving Nicholas Latifi and Mick Schumacher.

### Championship Standings

* Max Verstappen secured the Drivers' Championship with 454 points, followed by Charles Leclerc with 308 points and Sergio Perez with 305 points.
* Red Bull Racing won the Constructors' Championship with 759 points, followed by Scuderia Ferrari with 554 points and Mercedes with 515 points.

### Notable Quotes

* "Right-o." - George Russell's new catchphrase, used during the race.
* "I'm sick and tired of seeing Americans talking about Formula One and it's some dude with his fucking Honda Civic." - A comment from a fan expressing frustration with uninformed opinions about the sport.

### Controversies and Insights

* Some fans and pundits questioned Ferrari's strategy for Carlos Sainz, who finished in fifth place despite showing strong pace throughout the season.
* There was debate about whether Aston Martin's strategy for Sebastian Vettel was suboptimal, as he finished in 10th place in his final race.
* The race featured several retirements and incidents, which some attributed to the high-pressure nature of the season finale.

### Overall

The 2022 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix concluded an exciting and unpredictable Formula One season. Max Verstappen's dominant performance secured his second consecutive World Drivers' Championship, while Red Bull Racing clinched the Constructors' Championship. The race also marked the final Formula One race for several drivers, including Sebastian Vettel and Fernando Alonso, who were celebrated for their contributions to the sport. # Formula One Season Finale: Abu Dhabi Grand Prix 2022

## Race Review

* The last race of the 2022 season was held at the Yas Marina Circuit in Abu Dhabi.
* Max Verstappen secured his second consecutive world championship title.
* Sergio Perez finished in second place, followed by Charles Leclerc in third.
* Lewis Hamilton and George Russell finished in fifth and sixth place, respectively.
* Fernando Alonso finished in ninth place, securing fourth place in the championship standings.
* The race was largely uneventful, with few overtakes and changes in position.

## Notable Moments

* Mick Schumacher spun out on the final lap of the race while attempting to do donuts.
* Charles Leclerc accidentally activated his drink button during his post-race interview, spraying himself with water.
* The race marked the final Formula One race for Sebastian Vettel, who retired from the sport after the season.

## Post-Season Analysis

* Ferrari's strategy was praised for their two-stop strategy, which allowed Leclerc to finish on the podium despite a slower car.
* There was some debate about whether or not Renault's engine problems were due to reliability issues or driver error.
* Fans expressed disappointment with the anticlimactic nature of the race, which was seen as a lackluster end to the season.

## Looking Ahead to 2023

* The 2023 Formula One season is expected to be more competitive, with several teams expected to challenge for the championship.
* Mercedes is expected to be a major contender, with their new car showing promise in testing.
* Red Bull will be looking to defend their title, but they will face stiff competition from Ferrari and Mercedes.
* McLaren and Alpine are also expected to be in the mix for podium finishes and race wins.

## Conclusion

The 2022 Formula One season ended with a whimper, but the upcoming season promises to be full of excitement and drama. With several teams capable of winning races and challenging for the championship, the 2023 season is sure to be one to remember.

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[02:14.000 -> 02:23.920] You're listening to the most fraudulent F1 podcast with Dan, aka Engine Mode 11.
[02:23.920 -> 02:29.980] I secretly moonlight as hell with Marco at weekend and Blake, AKA break echo chambers
[02:29.980 -> 02:32.500] of farts and idiots on Twitter after races.
[02:32.500 -> 02:42.280] It's the engine breaking F1 podcast.
[02:42.280 -> 02:45.000] I just kind of want to let that intro like vibe out for a little bit.
[02:45.000 -> 02:46.000] I love that intro.
[02:46.000 -> 02:47.000] Love that intro.
[02:47.000 -> 02:48.000] Oh, what episode is this?
[02:48.000 -> 02:49.000] Is this like 11 or 12?
[02:49.000 -> 02:50.000] Maybe we're 11.
[02:50.000 -> 02:51.000] We are officially my goodness.
[02:51.000 -> 02:52.000] Episode check.
[02:52.000 -> 02:53.000] Oh, we've made it episode Sergio Perez.
[02:53.000 -> 02:54.000] Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the engine breaking podcast.
[02:54.000 -> 02:55.000] My name is Blake, a failed Formula One engineer who knows nothing about Formula One.
[02:55.000 -> 02:56.000] Yeah, and I'm Dan, aka Engine Mode 11, who is also another failed F1 driver.
[02:56.000 -> 02:57.000] I'm Dan, aka Engine Mode 11.
[02:57.000 -> 02:58.000] I'm a Formula One driver.
[02:58.000 -> 02:59.000] I'm a Formula One driver.
[02:59.000 -> 03:00.000] I'm a Formula One driver.
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[03:03.000 -> 03:04.000] I'm a Formula One driver.
[03:04.000 -> 03:05.760] I'm a Formula One driver. I'm a Formula One driver. I'm a Formula One driver. I'm a Formula One driver. knows nothing about Formula One. Who are you?
[03:05.760 -> 03:10.560] Yeah and I'm Dan aka Engine Mode 11 who is also another failed F1 engineer
[03:11.520 -> 03:14.720] and now we create this shite podcast called Engine Breaking.
[03:15.360 -> 03:20.640] It is pretty fucking terrible let's be honest. But everybody welcome we're glad you're here.
[03:21.280 -> 03:27.440] We've just gone through the Abu Dhabi Grand Prix. And to be fair,
[03:27.440 -> 03:31.920] I'm not sure what Grand Prix was worse. I know 2021 was controversial, but I went back
[03:31.920 -> 03:37.880] and watched it. It was terrible. It was terrible until Latifi binned it. And in this one, there
[03:37.880 -> 03:42.680] was a little bit going on, a little bit of variability, but we'll get to that in a second.
[03:42.680 -> 03:46.520] So this is going to be our final race review of the season.
[03:46.520 -> 03:48.360] We're gonna get a couple more episodes in.
[03:48.360 -> 03:49.800] We've got some other stuff to talk about.
[03:49.800 -> 03:52.180] We've got a couple of really cool guests for you,
[03:52.180 -> 03:53.520] and I'm totally making that up right now.
[03:53.520 -> 03:55.020] I need to call them right now.
[03:55.020 -> 03:56.400] But we'll figure something out,
[03:56.400 -> 03:59.720] and we'll keep you guys entertained in this off-season,
[03:59.720 -> 04:03.200] because I know that it's kind of lonely without Formula One,
[04:03.200 -> 04:04.120] and if you're like me,
[04:04.120 -> 04:06.280] you have nothing else to do with your life.
[04:07.640 -> 04:11.480] Yeah, well, maybe I could suggest you getting free children.
[04:11.480 -> 04:15.000] That will certainly liven up your Christmas period.
[04:15.000 -> 04:17.880] Now, I've actually bought a plunge saw,
[04:17.880 -> 04:20.840] I bought a table saw, I bought a bunch of other stuff.
[04:20.840 -> 04:22.600] I'm gonna start making furniture in the off season.
[04:22.600 -> 04:23.640] I've got a bar,
[04:23.640 -> 04:25.480] I've got some stuff in the living room to make.
[04:25.480 -> 04:26.800] So that's going to be how I feel my time.
[04:27.160 -> 04:29.080] And I'm also going to keep working on F1 videos.
[04:29.120 -> 04:32.920] But maybe now that there's no races, I can do some other interesting,
[04:33.000 -> 04:37.800] informative, analytical stuff, which is based on my complete failure of a
[04:37.800 -> 04:40.560] career as an engineer with zero real knowledge.
[04:41.080 -> 04:42.920] And Red Bull fired me because I was terrible.
[04:43.040 -> 04:43.600] Is what happened.
[04:43.680 -> 04:44.600] This is all true.
[04:44.600 -> 04:48.000] But in case anyone wants to go check out that content where could they find it Blake?
[04:48.720 -> 04:55.200] Break F1 on YouTube so and and TikTok but mostly YouTube but that's what I'm doing. Are you going
[04:55.200 -> 04:58.800] to do any F1 videos over the winter break? Are you going to give it a rest until next season and go
[04:58.800 -> 05:03.840] again with the Thursday tea time? I'm just going to say no because my schedule is about as reliable
[05:03.840 -> 05:06.800] as a plumber's estimate. Yeah, I got you. All right
[05:06.800 -> 05:12.020] Well, well if they did want to find you is that engine mode 11 on YouTube for when you do get back on that grind
[05:12.840 -> 05:17.800] Yes, engine mode 11 on YouTube Instagram Twitter and all that
[05:17.800 -> 05:22.480] So again, tick tocks another app that I decided to abandon after two videos
[05:24.640 -> 05:26.260] Hmm that I decided to abandon after two videos. So.
[05:27.460 -> 05:28.500] Well, here we are. Let's get into it.
[05:28.500 -> 05:30.380] Let's start off with the weekly news
[05:30.380 -> 05:32.740] because as it is the end of the season,
[05:32.740 -> 05:33.820] there's been a whole lot of stuff
[05:33.820 -> 05:35.580] that's been up in the air.
[05:35.580 -> 05:36.560] We've had a couple of,
[05:36.560 -> 05:38.220] not really any bombshells dropped on us,
[05:38.220 -> 05:39.060] but what do we got?
[05:39.060 -> 05:40.380] What do we got?
[05:40.380 -> 05:42.820] Well, we got the official announcement
[05:42.820 -> 05:44.740] that Hulkenberg is back at Haas.
[05:45.600 -> 05:47.600] Poor old Mick got dropped
[05:48.080 -> 05:49.560] so
[05:49.560 -> 05:54.420] Hulkenberg, I think I've been quite vocal about this in the past right so I think
[05:55.720 -> 06:00.780] I'm not feeling it. I just I don't I don't really think this is gonna work out
[06:01.600 -> 06:03.160] I'm not
[06:03.160 -> 06:06.400] on one hand like because I never worked when I was at
[06:06.800 -> 06:07.200] Fort St.
[06:07.200 -> 06:11.520] Niko was on the other car for, I think at two different times during the three
[06:11.520 -> 06:14.320] year period I was there, or he was in and out, or maybe when I wasn't at track,
[06:14.360 -> 06:18.040] but like, I like Niko and he's, he's a good driver and he's a solid driver, but
[06:18.040 -> 06:23.200] like, Mick, Mick seems like he's coming around, like he needs, he needs some more
[06:23.200 -> 06:23.560] time.
[06:23.560 -> 06:24.440] He needs some more love.
[06:24.960 -> 06:25.040] That car is not excellent on a good day. And that's not around like he needs. He needs some more time. He needs some more love.
[06:25.040 -> 06:28.000] That car is not excellent on a good day.
[06:28.000 -> 06:28.960] And that's not a dig at them.
[06:28.960 -> 06:30.840] It's just, that's the struggle of a lower
[06:30.840 -> 06:32.720] end of the midfield team.
[06:32.720 -> 06:35.800] And that's a lot to take on for a new guy.
[06:35.800 -> 06:37.880] Like if he'd been in a decent car, fine.
[06:37.880 -> 06:40.980] But even Latifi seemed to struggle a lot more
[06:40.980 -> 06:42.680] with this car this year.
[06:42.680 -> 06:44.700] Like, I don't remember him being that far off
[06:44.700 -> 06:45.900] all the time last year,
[06:45.900 -> 06:48.100] whereas I think Mick's done all right.
[06:48.100 -> 06:48.940] It's really rough.
[06:48.940 -> 06:50.700] He had a rough start, didn't he, to the season?
[06:50.700 -> 06:52.320] He did.
[06:52.320 -> 06:54.020] But I feel like he's grown a lot.
[06:55.180 -> 06:57.340] I would have given Mick another year.
[06:57.340 -> 06:58.180] I would have too.
[06:58.180 -> 07:01.980] I don't work or manage an F1 team.
[07:01.980 -> 07:03.820] I just sit here and make this shite podcast,
[07:03.820 -> 07:05.200] so what the fuck do I
[07:05.200 -> 07:06.200] know?
[07:06.200 -> 07:07.200] Yeah, as little as I do.
[07:07.200 -> 07:13.320] I'll give Nico a chance, and if he comes good, I'll hold my hands up and say I was wrong.
[07:13.320 -> 07:19.040] But yeah, at the minute, I just think I'm not so keen on that.
[07:19.040 -> 07:22.080] Yeah, I'm not either.
[07:22.080 -> 07:23.080] But you know what?
[07:23.080 -> 07:24.080] I like Nico.
[07:24.080 -> 07:26.000] I think he'll do a reasonable job.
[07:26.000 -> 07:30.200] Kevin's done a pretty good job as well. But that car's just been all over the shop. So
[07:30.200 -> 07:36.760] that's really difficult. But for some reason, I don't feel as attached to this next point
[07:36.760 -> 07:41.240] as I should be being an American. What do we got? What's the next?
[07:41.240 -> 07:48.040] A few hours ago, Logan Sargent got announced. So this will be interesting because we do have quite a large American contingency that
[07:48.040 -> 07:49.040] follow us.
[07:49.040 -> 07:51.120] Checking the stats, let's go Dan.
[07:51.120 -> 07:52.120] Americans, hello Americans.
[07:52.120 -> 07:53.120] He's gone up 40% now.
[07:53.120 -> 07:54.120] USA, USA, USA.
[07:54.120 -> 07:58.200] And they are currently playing in the World Cup.
[07:58.200 -> 08:08.340] So if you're listening to this after, I'm either very happy for you or very sad let's see if I can find
[08:08.340 -> 08:12.600] it yeah anyway Logan Sargent oh they're beating Wales 1-0 at halftime
[08:12.600 -> 08:21.660] currently. Logan Sargent finally got his enough super license points when he
[08:21.660 -> 08:25.080] finished in the f2 race I can't remember where he finished.
[08:25.080 -> 08:27.320] I think he needed to finish, I think above P6.
[08:27.320 -> 08:29.200] So he obviously did it.
[08:29.200 -> 08:31.480] He got crowned rookie of the year as well in F2.
[08:31.480 -> 08:32.860] So there you go.
[08:32.860 -> 08:33.700] Go on, lad.
[08:33.700 -> 08:36.480] Finished the season in P4 with two wins
[08:36.480 -> 08:38.680] and a further two podium appearances.
[08:38.680 -> 08:39.520] So there you go.
[08:39.520 -> 08:43.160] You've got American driver back on the grid
[08:43.160 -> 08:45.520] and you obviously sound very thrilled about that.
[08:47.960 -> 08:53.720] Honestly, it'll be cool seeing more Americans on the grid. I have not been following Formula 2 this season
[08:53.720 -> 08:55.720] So I don't like have an attachment to it
[08:56.680 -> 09:01.120] But at the same time it's good for the sport. I think in the long run, but I
[09:02.160 -> 09:07.520] Hope he does well. I hope he does well. Yeah I think you know if he does
[09:07.520 -> 09:12.800] to come through well it'll be good for the American market. We got what three races there now next year
[09:13.360 -> 09:21.520] an American driver so you know opening those markets up. But I don't look full on fraudulent
[09:21.520 -> 09:29.800] alert. I don't really follow the rookie category so I couldn't tell you if he's any good or not but if he's finished P4 then you know we'll see.
[09:29.800 -> 09:33.040] He's from Florida as well apparently so there you go.
[09:33.040 -> 09:34.440] Miami home race.
[09:34.440 -> 09:38.200] Latifi won F2 after like six seasons of it.
[09:38.200 -> 09:47.680] Darlian Pollard won F2 as well when it was GP2. So just because you win a junior category doesn't mean you can
[09:47.680 -> 09:50.120] jump into the ring with Ali and Box.
[09:50.120 -> 09:56.120] Yeah, but at the same time, like these dudes are probably reasonable. It's just the F1
[09:56.120 -> 10:00.440] car is like you don't get a whole lot of chances. You rock up and you do it or you don't do
[10:00.440 -> 10:04.280] it. If the car doesn't suit you or you don't understand the car, you're not getting a whole
[10:04.280 -> 10:08.640] lot of shots, man. It's like, oh, that's nuts. But what else we got? What else we got?
[10:08.640 -> 10:15.520] Congrats to Logan though. Yeah yeah good for him, well done, GG. F1 commission meeting, so the F1
[10:15.520 -> 10:21.280] had like a final meeting of the F1 commission just before Abu Dhabi and quite a lot of sort of
[10:21.280 -> 10:26.320] changes and points came out of it. So one of them was they are looking to undertake
[10:26.320 -> 10:30.520] a comprehensive review of the sporting regulations for 2024.
[10:30.520 -> 10:32.160] Any changes they do make to that,
[10:32.160 -> 10:34.720] we'll probably know when they get approved
[10:34.720 -> 10:36.120] by the end of April next year.
[10:36.120 -> 10:39.760] So the sporting regulations, it's not technical,
[10:39.760 -> 10:41.560] sporting regulations are like
[10:44.000 -> 10:48.160] driving penalties and things like that.
[10:48.160 -> 10:51.680] Like the overtaking rules of conduct? Yeah things like that yeah not necessarily
[10:51.680 -> 10:54.440] the technical side of things like how you should design the car and things like
[10:54.440 -> 11:00.480] that but this is they're gonna review like the driver penalties and things
[11:00.480 -> 11:07.160] like that. Yep that's on that note I think so we talked about it last week.
[11:07.160 -> 11:11.400] So the blanket temperature revision is being changed for next season, blah, blah, blah.
[11:11.400 -> 11:15.080] They're going to look at reducing them, but I think they're not actually pulling the trigger
[11:15.080 -> 11:20.520] on no blankets for 24 until they make a decision in like June of next season.
[11:20.520 -> 11:24.840] So that's another one of the things on the sporting technical side.
[11:24.840 -> 11:29.320] They push that bad boy back to next year in terms of a decision.
[11:29.320 -> 11:34.960] They really, really need to sort out something with testing. But I went on about that last
[11:34.960 -> 11:38.920] week, but realistically Pirelli needs to sort something about testing in order to properly
[11:38.920 -> 11:46.640] test these tires because they can do it. But doing these free practice test sessions of an hour is not a
[11:46.640 -> 11:53.600] proper way to go tire testing. It's asinine. I think they know that as well, but the teams
[11:53.600 -> 11:57.520] are pushing back because of costs, engine mileage and all this other stuff. And the FI are like,
[11:58.640 -> 12:02.480] kind of sitting there like, what do we do? Yeah, well, they kind of pulled it on themselves,
[12:02.480 -> 12:09.340] didn't they, with the cost cap and made it so complicated, trying to figure out what comes under the cost cap and are you allowed
[12:09.340 -> 12:14.320] to use a current car for a tire test and if you're not, then what's the point of a tire
[12:14.320 -> 12:15.320] test?
[12:15.320 -> 12:19.080] That's another complication is it's just a new formula of cars so that you don't have
[12:19.080 -> 12:24.720] any mule cars possible now, now that they've got, you know, an 18-inch car, but a lot of
[12:24.720 -> 12:26.680] these bits and pieces could be rolled over
[12:26.680 -> 12:31.680] to next season as well, so the cost is still a thing.
[12:32.060 -> 12:33.820] But anyway.
[12:34.920 -> 12:37.320] Speaking of tires, here's a fun one.
[12:37.320 -> 12:40.200] So they've commenced a study to define a package of parts
[12:40.200 -> 12:42.940] aiming to suppress the spray generated when running
[12:42.940 -> 12:44.680] in wet conditions.
[12:44.680 -> 12:45.600] So basically,
[12:45.600 -> 12:50.720] and they literally say this in brackets, wheel arches. They want to stick wheel arches on the car
[12:51.360 -> 12:57.040] during an extreme wet to reduce the spray. But like if you do wheel arches you'd have to have
[12:57.040 -> 13:01.280] them always on and we would not have open wheel racing. Well apparently they're looking at a way
[13:01.280 -> 13:07.280] of doing it so you can fit them during a red flag.
[13:11.040 -> 13:14.320] I feel like this is me being one of those old, old grumpy farts, like that's fucking stupid, man,
[13:14.320 -> 13:16.800] but that is fucking stupid, man.
[13:16.800 -> 13:18.760] Like, at the end of the day, it's an open wheel car,
[13:18.760 -> 13:20.200] they will generate spray.
[13:20.200 -> 13:23.080] I feel like the bigger problem is the fact
[13:23.080 -> 13:26.000] that Pirelli struggled to make a good full wet tyre.
[13:26.000 -> 13:32.080] And that coupled with the fact that the race officials do not want to run in full wet.
[13:33.760 -> 13:40.640] Correct. So my easy suggestion to make that achievable is to just raid the Formula E parts
[13:40.640 -> 13:47.360] bin and just stick the wheel arches on from them. Send it mate. Exactly, job done FIA, thank you, that'll be two million dollars.
[13:47.360 -> 13:48.360] Cheers lads.
[13:48.360 -> 13:49.360] Consultancy fee.
[13:49.360 -> 13:50.360] Ladies.
[13:50.360 -> 13:51.360] Exactly.
[13:51.360 -> 13:54.120] What else we got in the FIA commission?
[13:54.120 -> 14:00.360] They have approved a proposal to evaluate the changing of the way DRS works.
[14:00.360 -> 14:06.600] So I think at the moment it's on lap two it's activated. I can't remember myself, this is how fraudulent I am.
[14:06.600 -> 14:07.920] It is lap two.
[14:07.920 -> 14:09.480] But now they're looking to bring that forward
[14:09.480 -> 14:12.800] to like the first lap, and they're gonna trial it
[14:12.800 -> 14:17.300] at the sprint sessions in 2023 with a view to introduce it
[14:17.300 -> 14:19.600] for all races in 2024.
[14:20.920 -> 14:21.760] Fair enough.
[14:21.760 -> 14:22.720] Yeah, fair enough.
[14:22.720 -> 14:24.080] Like I say, trial it, why not?
[14:24.080 -> 14:27.960] And the last point is my favorite one, because I heard you go on a rant about this
[14:27.960 -> 14:28.960] the other day.
[14:28.960 -> 14:33.360] They're looking at ways to simplify the park ferme processes, events that include a sprint
[14:33.360 -> 14:34.360] session.
[14:34.360 -> 14:36.320] So what are they going to do with that?
[14:36.320 -> 14:37.320] I don't know.
[14:37.320 -> 14:38.320] They haven't said yet.
[14:38.320 -> 14:39.320] They're still looking at it.
[14:39.320 -> 14:44.760] But I know you're a big fan of it being called free practice too, when the cars are actually
[14:44.760 -> 14:45.440] in park ferme and they can't make any changes. On free practice 2 when the cars are actually in park firmware and
[14:45.440 -> 14:50.560] they can't make any changes. On free practice 2 you can run high fuel? Yeah. Which is what people
[14:50.560 -> 14:54.640] tend to do in those sessions. Okay. But it looks like they're going to simplify it because they
[14:54.640 -> 15:00.880] got fed up of all the requests to change things overnight. Yeah so just to clarify before the DRS
[15:00.880 -> 15:08.580] was disabled for the first two laps now it will only be disabled for the first lap. So instead of the DRS opening on lap three, it will open on lap two.
[15:08.880 -> 15:12.260] I saw a couple of people in the live stream chat, uh, mentioning that.
[15:12.260 -> 15:14.880] And that was, I think you could have claimed that for yourself
[15:14.880 -> 15:16.000] and sounded like you knew.
[15:16.500 -> 15:20.860] I did know that, but I, I didn't appreciate it that we didn't phrase
[15:20.860 -> 15:24.240] it in a way that made sense, but yeah, he didn't have a fucking clue.
[15:25.720 -> 15:28.200] The FIA has enabled the DRS
[15:31.000 -> 15:34.040] So, yeah, that was it for the F1 Commission meeting I think pretty much
[15:35.880 -> 15:38.600] And then F1 announced something didn't they
[15:39.480 -> 15:44.940] Yeah, they waited for the W series to tank itself. They're like we've got our own series motherfuckers
[15:45.040 -> 15:45.680] they waited for the W series to tank itself and they're like we've got our own series motherfuckers
[15:50.640 -> 15:51.760] but what do we got here an all-new female driver series for 2023.
[15:58.480 -> 15:59.600] Yes, apparently F1 are going to subsidize 150 euros towards the costs of the car. 150 000 euros.
[15:59.600 -> 16:02.400] It's like here's a couple cent you said 150.
[16:02.400 -> 16:04.320] Oh just yeah just 150 euros.
[16:05.480 -> 16:08.040] Here's about five sandwiches from Red Bull's catering.
[16:08.040 -> 16:08.920] You guys have fun.
[16:08.920 -> 16:12.520] Sorry, 150,000 euros towards the car cost,
[16:12.520 -> 16:15.840] and then the driver has to cover that same amount.
[16:15.840 -> 16:17.920] Okay, so they need to do that with sponsorship.
[16:17.920 -> 16:21.360] Yeah, but basically the goal is-
[16:21.360 -> 16:22.200] That's not much.
[16:22.200 -> 16:23.020] No.
[16:23.020 -> 16:27.000] An F2 season is what, like over 1.5 to 2 million now?
[16:27.000 -> 16:29.000] I believe it's something like that, yeah.
[16:29.000 -> 16:33.560] Yeah, because like buying a seat in some of the lower teams, like back in the last couple
[16:33.560 -> 16:36.280] years the driver would need to bring 10 mil in sponsorship.
[16:36.280 -> 16:39.920] But I think an F2 season in a top team is somewhere close to 2 million.
[16:39.920 -> 16:44.320] I might have misspoken slightly on that, but I think it's close.
[16:44.320 -> 16:47.020] So 150 grand. Well that's the difference though,
[16:47.020 -> 16:49.320] because W Series is like, you guys don't need,
[16:49.320 -> 16:51.620] gals, women do not need to do anything.
[16:51.620 -> 16:54.360] We'll provide the series, we'll provide the sponsorship,
[16:54.360 -> 16:56.280] and there wasn't enough sponsorship in the end,
[16:56.280 -> 16:57.300] and they got to the end of the season,
[16:57.300 -> 16:58.840] they pulled the plug on W Series
[16:58.840 -> 16:59.900] with a couple of races to go,
[16:59.900 -> 17:02.480] which sucked for not only everybody competing,
[17:02.480 -> 17:04.200] but all the engineers and staff.
[17:04.200 -> 17:05.520] I know a friend, my friend Katie,
[17:05.520 -> 17:07.560] and a couple of other people that were engineers
[17:07.560 -> 17:09.840] for that series, and that's kind of pulled out
[17:09.840 -> 17:12.600] from the bottom, which sucks.
[17:12.600 -> 17:13.800] But in the announcement for this,
[17:13.800 -> 17:18.800] they mentioned W Series as like a step above this,
[17:20.660 -> 17:22.960] like a feeder series to W Series,
[17:22.960 -> 17:24.880] which I thought was a bit funky.
[17:24.880 -> 17:25.720] That's weird.
[17:25.720 -> 17:26.540] Yeah.
[17:26.540 -> 17:27.380] So I don't really know.
[17:27.380 -> 17:30.520] I think we'll have to wait and see on this one.
[17:30.520 -> 17:32.240] I got the impression from that graphic
[17:32.240 -> 17:36.320] that basically it goes something like F1 Academy
[17:36.320 -> 17:39.400] into F3, into F2, and then that way they're starting
[17:39.400 -> 17:41.840] these women at a younger age,
[17:41.840 -> 17:46.600] because I don't know what the age range of the W Series is.
[17:46.600 -> 17:51.960] But for the most part, I think people need to start, you know, quit just talking about
[17:51.960 -> 17:57.240] it, make it happen, and find these people, these up-and-coming talents and support them
[17:57.240 -> 17:58.480] through their younger careers.
[17:58.480 -> 18:00.880] Like, this is from carding.
[18:00.880 -> 18:04.800] It just happens to be one of those things where it's mostly lads right now, but hopefully
[18:04.800 -> 18:05.840] that's changing.
[18:05.840 -> 18:10.720] And I feel like we need to get, I feel like Tony is super in touch with this topic.
[18:10.720 -> 18:14.080] Yeah, I was going to say, this is an off season Tony chat, I think.
[18:14.080 -> 18:20.640] I value her feedback on that, but it has to start much earlier than, right, here you go,
[18:20.640 -> 18:23.640] here's a F4 car.
[18:23.640 -> 18:26.320] Yeah the cynic in me says that it sounds a little bit like a box
[18:26.320 -> 18:32.480] ticking exercise but we'll see we'll see um not that that's a good thing i think that doesn't
[18:32.480 -> 18:48.600] it needs to be a genuine effort because it's it's weird yeah 2022 no female driver in F1. So there you go. Hot rumor hot boiling hot rumor. Oh my god. Is this breaking breaking?
[18:49.600 -> 18:54.040] Breaking I think we had it maybe before the Abradabby race, but pre broken
[18:55.080 -> 19:01.040] Mattia Bonotto apparently is going to be replaced by Fred Avasior from Alfa Romeo
[19:01.780 -> 19:05.200] Now the reason why I think this is probably going to happen is because Ferrari
[19:05.200 -> 19:11.840] issued a statement denying it. So that's that. Categorically, so that means it's true. But is
[19:11.840 -> 19:16.560] Benotto going to get the the sack or is he going to go back to a technical role? Because that is
[19:16.560 -> 19:22.720] his wheelhouse, it's not politics and team principle. He was a technical. As an engineer
[19:23.760 -> 19:25.640] he's you, top dog.
[19:25.640 -> 19:26.760] I can't fault him for that.
[19:26.760 -> 19:28.040] Cause you look at the car this year,
[19:28.040 -> 19:31.560] the Ferrari car wasn't that bad, you know.
[19:31.560 -> 19:34.400] I think they were let down a lot more from strategy
[19:34.400 -> 19:35.280] and things like that.
[19:35.280 -> 19:36.280] So intelligent.
[19:36.280 -> 19:38.080] They've got some operational issues for sure,
[19:38.080 -> 19:41.160] but technically the car rocked up and it was good.
[19:41.160 -> 19:43.440] And it does, I don't wanna go too far into this,
[19:43.440 -> 19:46.060] but I feel like a lot of the speculations
[19:46.060 -> 19:51.200] about teams and performance over the summer break with the regs change about the floor,
[19:51.200 -> 19:54.520] the technical directive and regarding the plank and bottoming metrics and everything
[19:54.520 -> 19:55.520] else.
[19:55.520 -> 19:58.200] I think they got smacked by it the hardest.
[19:58.200 -> 19:59.880] I think they were hit the hardest by it.
[19:59.880 -> 20:02.480] Yeah, I agree with you on that one.
[20:02.480 -> 20:03.480] Technical directive 39.
[20:03.480 -> 20:04.480] Yeah.
[20:04.480 -> 20:05.680] Slapped him about.
[20:06.720 -> 20:07.040] Oof.
[20:07.840 -> 20:12.000] Here's something, hey, this next thing is super cool. This is super close to home. Are you excited?
[20:12.960 -> 20:13.920] Are you excited?
[20:13.920 -> 20:15.200] Yeah, sure, why not?
[20:15.200 -> 20:15.520] Yes.
[20:16.400 -> 20:23.200] Yes. Friends and colleagues in the Twitch live stream, what do you guys think about this one?
[20:24.880 -> 20:26.880] Spill the beans bro.
[20:26.880 -> 20:32.320] Red Bull are doing a show car run in Milton Keynes on the 10th of December.
[20:32.320 -> 20:33.320] Oh yeah!
[20:33.320 -> 20:36.080] Don't know if we went into song for that one.
[20:36.080 -> 20:40.520] But yeah no it's down the road for me and you isn't it so we'll probably rock up.
[20:40.520 -> 20:47.600] It's a Saturday so if anybody is around Milton Keynes, Dan and I will be there and we'll be sure
[20:47.600 -> 20:51.920] to line something up so we can say hi to anybody that wants to just say hi. Like this has been a
[20:51.920 -> 20:59.200] super super cool thing doing this podcast and the fact that our old colleagues are having a little
[20:59.200 -> 21:09.040] show run to celebrate the championship in the center of Milton Keynes so I'll be there. Can we use any of our influence to
[21:10.320 -> 21:15.600] I don't know I mean I'm gonna race engineer the car. Are you? Not really I'm just saying that out
[21:15.600 -> 21:20.480] loud so that I can do it. You can sort of will it into existence. Yeah mate all right mate do some
[21:20.480 -> 21:26.440] donuts brother all right yeah that's good yeah nah., it's the old V8, so you got experience in that, right?
[21:26.440 -> 21:29.040] Yeah, I've never ran a Renault V8.
[21:29.040 -> 21:31.480] God, I mean, Renault did,
[21:31.480 -> 21:34.200] to be fair, Renault did help the team a lot
[21:34.200 -> 21:35.920] in the exhaust blowing V8 days.
[21:35.920 -> 21:37.360] You know, that was something,
[21:37.360 -> 21:41.000] but God, as soon as that V6 showed up, Jesus Christ.
[21:43.400 -> 21:50.760] Yeah, so I'm gonna drive the car they're gonna widen it just to get my fat ass into it
[21:52.920 -> 21:59.580] This won't put a seat bucket in there you'll be good there's gonna be no porcelain on that bad boy. Yeah, it's gonna be popped out
[22:01.300 -> 22:02.800] So, yeah, no
[22:02.800 -> 22:07.200] Milk Red Bull show run Milton Keynes 10th of December, we'll be there.
[22:07.200 -> 22:08.200] We're going to do something.
[22:08.200 -> 22:09.800] Maybe we'll just go out for drinks somewhere or something.
[22:09.800 -> 22:10.800] I don't know.
[22:10.800 -> 22:11.800] We'll figure something out.
[22:11.800 -> 22:13.280] Throw tomatoes at us.
[22:13.280 -> 22:14.280] Give us a high five.
[22:14.280 -> 22:15.280] Boo us.
[22:15.280 -> 22:16.280] Congratulate us.
[22:16.280 -> 22:17.280] I don't care what you do.
[22:17.280 -> 22:18.280] Just say hello.
[22:18.280 -> 22:19.280] Yeah.
[22:19.280 -> 22:20.280] Say hi.
[22:20.280 -> 22:21.280] We're friendly.
[22:21.280 -> 22:23.000] You know what we look like, especially if you're watching the podcast on YouTube, engine
[22:23.000 -> 22:24.680] breaking law.
[22:24.680 -> 22:26.320] But so we've got that, we've got the show,
[22:26.320 -> 22:27.840] and we've got a couple of retirements this season.
[22:27.840 -> 22:30.720] So the TeeFees left the sport,
[22:30.720 -> 22:33.540] and he had a tough time, and that can't be fun,
[22:33.540 -> 22:35.960] but he's gone.
[22:35.960 -> 22:38.800] But also, I mean, this is a little bit of one,
[22:38.800 -> 22:41.060] and I didn't really stop to think about it until later,
[22:41.060 -> 22:43.600] but Sebastian Vettel retires.
[22:43.600 -> 22:46.000] And it's been pretty interesting because when I was,
[22:46.000 -> 22:51.280] I didn't start watching F Formula One until 2007-ish. And when I was finishing up uni
[22:52.800 -> 22:58.000] and moving over here was the Red Bull glory days and seeing that, that was so freaking
[22:58.000 -> 23:02.880] motivating to see the fizzy drinks company, right? It can be this super nimble organization.
[23:02.880 -> 23:11.120] They get a bunch of really clever engineers and they rock up and they destroy these other teams that are, you know, automotive
[23:11.120 -> 23:15.800] manufacturers, they're factory backed teams. And you see that and it's like, that is so
[23:15.800 -> 23:20.680] cool. I want to be a part of that. And then you've seen him change and evolve a lot, you
[23:20.680 -> 23:35.040] know, through his four championships and then through his Ferrari years. And now Aston and just like a super complete, super genuine dude who's been a human. He's been
[23:35.040 -> 23:40.540] made a lot of mistakes. You know, you know, like he's been controversial. He's had all
[23:40.540 -> 23:47.280] sorts of falling outs with his teammates. As is the true evolution of a championship and in his old age,
[23:47.640 -> 23:50.520] not even old age, you know, in his maturity, he's
[23:52.080 -> 23:55.440] shown what that can what that kind of being a champion looks like.
[23:55.560 -> 24:00.800] I will say and I will big up the F1 Beyond the Grid podcast.
[24:01.040 -> 24:03.960] They did an episode with him talking about his time.
[24:03.960 -> 24:09.600] And that was really good. So I recommend that. I think he's about an hour and a half and he
[24:09.600 -> 24:12.680] sort of goes through everything and it's a real good episode so yeah I would
[24:12.680 -> 24:17.400] highly recommend that. Did you get emotional? I got emotional because I was
[24:17.400 -> 24:21.160] listening to it as I was driving through London yeah I was just I was emotional
[24:21.160 -> 24:26.000] yeah I was shouting at taxi drivers and bus drivers and
[24:28.280 -> 24:29.380] delivery riders and things like that.
[24:30.880 -> 24:31.340] Oh, I love it, man.
[24:32.280 -> 24:32.540] What are we getting to the weekend?
[24:35.940 -> 24:40.320] But here's the last thing I'll see, and I'll throw this one out there without any context or any expectation of conclusion is are we going to see
[24:40.320 -> 24:43.980] the same type of arc with with Max right now because Max is on his second
[24:43.980 -> 24:45.000] driver's championship, you know, and some very similar things are very We're going to see the same type of arc with Max right now because Max is on his second drivers championship.
[24:45.000 -> 24:53.320] You know, and some very similar things are very single minded, self-focused attitude
[24:53.320 -> 24:54.680] about winning championships.
[24:54.680 -> 25:00.680] And I feel like on one hand, you know, it's not winning him any favors with fans and anything
[25:00.680 -> 25:01.680] else.
[25:01.680 -> 25:11.920] But on the other hand, it's like that single-mindedness is a characteristic. So are we gonna see him go the way of Alonso or Vettel?
[25:11.920 -> 25:17.000] I don't know, probably it does seem you can make a lot of comparisons and parallels
[25:17.000 -> 25:23.720] with Vettel can't you? Back then the team seemed very focused around Vettel and
[25:23.720 -> 25:26.160] you know some people were like poor Mark
[25:26.160 -> 25:30.720] Webber and people are saying it now with with Checo aren't they sort of like the
[25:30.720 -> 25:36.280] team is too focused on Max so you know yeah maybe I don't know. Let's see.
[25:36.280 -> 25:40.440] Without good bad indifferent let's I'm really this I mean this is really
[25:40.440 -> 25:48.800] interesting story and this is just the beginning of that story, and I think we're gonna be around to enjoy the rest of it.
[25:48.800 -> 25:50.040] Yeah, big up Vettel.
[25:50.960 -> 25:54.360] Shame he's leaving, he's done a lot for the sport,
[25:54.360 -> 25:58.720] and I hope somehow he can still contribute to the sport
[25:58.720 -> 26:00.560] for the better in the future.
[26:00.560 -> 26:02.040] I think we're not done with Seb.
[26:02.040 -> 26:05.600] Seb's not done with the sport.
[26:07.120 -> 26:08.480] In a wider sense.
[26:08.480 -> 26:10.180] I'm looking forward to that as well.
[26:10.180 -> 26:11.640] He's a super inspiring dude.
[26:11.640 -> 26:13.240] Yeah.
[26:13.240 -> 26:15.940] He also was in your first interview as well, wasn't he?
[26:15.940 -> 26:17.120] Yeah, he did interview me at Red Bull
[26:17.120 -> 26:18.680] and then he left to Ferrari, that rat.
[26:18.680 -> 26:20.280] Yep, that's what he thought about you.
[26:20.280 -> 26:22.440] He'd rather switch teams than work with you.
[26:22.440 -> 26:24.680] Well, I was so fucking washed that he hired me
[26:24.680 -> 26:25.000] to be
[26:25.000 -> 26:28.000] four time world champion Seb Beddle's performance engineer.
[26:28.000 -> 26:31.000] And then he left because he heard I was coming, so fair enough.
[26:31.000 -> 26:33.000] Yeah, understandable.
[26:33.000 -> 26:37.000] He did reach out later on, I don't think I've talked about that,
[26:37.000 -> 26:39.000] and I probably shouldn't, but he did reach out later on,
[26:39.000 -> 26:41.000] but I was like, I'm done at the track, man.
[26:41.000 -> 26:43.000] I don't want to do this anymore.
[26:43.000 -> 26:49.480] I'm going to be a factory rat for a while. He's like okay fair enough. So yeah sorry should we get into
[26:49.480 -> 26:53.800] the actual weekend? Let's go let's go we got Abba Dabba Friday free practice one.
[26:53.800 -> 27:01.440] Boom all the rookies so Felipe Drogovic for Aston Martin I say all the rookies
[27:01.440 -> 27:05.440] and the next one is Robert Kubica for Alfa Romeo. He's hardly a rookie
[27:08.440 -> 27:09.960] But big up Kubica. I know he's very well loved
[27:15.440 -> 27:16.320] Liam Lawson in the Red Bull Robert Schwartzman in the Ferrari Jack Doohan in the Alpine
[27:17.640 -> 27:19.640] man Yeah, I'm still going right
[27:20.280 -> 27:27.440] Awarding the McLaren Pietro Fittipaldi in the Haas, who was also announced as a Red Bull Junior this week.
[27:27.440 -> 27:29.440] Yeah, let's go man!
[27:29.440 -> 27:35.600] And Logan Sargent in the Williams, but it didn't go completely to plan.
[27:35.600 -> 27:42.400] O'Ward had a gearbox issue on his out lap and that sort of robbed him of quite a lot of time.
[27:42.400 -> 27:46.600] Logan Sargent had a spectacular moment going into turn one.
[27:46.600 -> 27:47.720] I don't know if you've seen this.
[27:47.720 -> 27:48.560] I missed that completely.
[27:48.560 -> 27:50.280] Oh man, it was brilliant.
[27:50.280 -> 27:55.100] So he had like a, as he was going on the outside
[27:55.100 -> 27:57.760] to go into turn one, I think he went too far
[27:57.760 -> 27:59.920] on the paint or whatever and he spun out
[27:59.920 -> 28:02.720] and he literally missed putting it into the wall
[28:02.720 -> 28:06.440] by like a few centimeters.
[28:07.120 -> 28:10.480] Yeah, man. So well done him for not smashing it up.
[28:11.000 -> 28:13.640] Apparently, Lawson was pretty rapid.
[28:13.840 -> 28:16.080] He was. Yes, he did seem very quick.
[28:16.880 -> 28:19.360] He was quick. I'm a big fan of him, which was quite amazing.
[28:19.800 -> 28:21.200] I'm a big fan of Lawson.
[28:21.200 -> 28:24.680] When we were going to it from the track, I was in the same car with him in Austin
[28:24.920 -> 28:25.520] just chatting with him because I hadn't seen him since were going to and from the track. I was in the same car with him in Austin, just chatting with him.
[28:25.520 -> 28:26.960] Cause I hadn't seen him since I worked with him in the sim.
[28:26.960 -> 28:28.960] And he's just, he's just a sound dude.
[28:29.040 -> 28:31.440] Super, super bright kid.
[28:31.600 -> 28:31.960] Uh,
[28:32.800 -> 28:34.720] Oh, apparently he was, but he loves him.
[28:35.080 -> 28:36.600] Apparently he was 0.2 off Checo.
[28:36.600 -> 28:36.960] Sorry.
[28:36.960 -> 28:39.920] Maybe I got that wrong, but it's Fp1 and the times don't
[28:39.920 -> 28:41.120] fucking mean a thing in Fp1.
[28:41.120 -> 28:41.280] Yeah.
[28:41.280 -> 28:41.840] It doesn't matter.
[28:41.880 -> 28:46.880] It doesn't matter, but let's just say he's, he's in the ball doesn't matter. But let's just say he's in the ballpark.
[28:46.880 -> 28:47.380] Yeah.
[28:47.380 -> 28:48.520] He's in the ballpark.
[28:48.520 -> 28:52.280] And we had a lot of teams running prototype 2023 floors.
[28:52.280 -> 28:53.200] So we saw quite a lot.
[28:53.200 -> 28:54.580] I missed that completely, Graham.
[28:54.580 -> 28:58.480] Yeah, we saw quite a lot of flow viz and aero rakes.
[28:58.480 -> 29:01.080] There'll be absolutely nothing for us as outsiders
[29:01.080 -> 29:03.280] to look at in regards to that.
[29:03.280 -> 29:06.680] So don't even bother.
[29:07.960 -> 29:10.960] But they're obviously just using it as a semi little test session for next year.
[29:10.960 -> 29:12.440] Yeah, they're just gonna be checking that,
[29:12.440 -> 29:13.800] you know, that there's, for example,
[29:13.800 -> 29:15.840] one of the biggest things that caught all the teams
[29:15.840 -> 29:17.720] out in this year was porpoising.
[29:17.720 -> 29:20.280] So it was not predicted in the tunnel.
[29:20.280 -> 29:21.600] It was not predicting CFD.
[29:21.600 -> 29:22.920] You go run the cars on the track
[29:22.920 -> 29:25.920] and there's either instabilities or sensitivities
[29:25.920 -> 29:27.760] that neither of those tools captured.
[29:27.760 -> 29:30.540] So that's why if you can run these components on track,
[29:30.540 -> 29:34.540] track time is king, real track data is the best.
[29:34.540 -> 29:36.660] That will help you understand the models,
[29:36.660 -> 29:38.440] make sure that your wind tunnel makes sense.
[29:38.440 -> 29:39.820] If not, understand it.
[29:39.820 -> 29:41.160] CFD doesn't make sense.
[29:41.160 -> 29:42.200] Okay, now you can understand it.
[29:42.200 -> 29:44.480] Now that you've got an understanding
[29:44.480 -> 29:45.600] of the flow structures
[29:45.600 -> 29:48.160] and everything else, so super important
[29:49.120 -> 29:52.040] to get an eye in on that stuff with a real car.
[29:53.140 -> 29:55.320] Yep, all about validating your work.
[29:57.640 -> 30:00.940] FP2, obviously all the regular drivers were back in,
[30:00.940 -> 30:04.440] not a lot of drama, the only interesting thing I saw
[30:04.440 -> 30:07.160] was I think it was Will Buxton on F1 TV noticed
[30:07.160 -> 30:10.920] that the McLaren pit box had like a different surface on it.
[30:10.920 -> 30:13.980] So it looked like it's like concrete repair.
[30:13.980 -> 30:18.160] So all the pit lane was like textured concrete
[30:18.160 -> 30:19.880] and then for like this.
[30:19.880 -> 30:20.720] Smooth slab board.
[30:20.720 -> 30:22.200] Yeah, it was like this smooth slab
[30:22.200 -> 30:24.160] right on the McLaren pit box.
[30:24.160 -> 30:25.520] So there were quite a few
[30:26.800 -> 30:30.160] Lando and Danny were complaining that was affecting their entry into the box
[30:32.060 -> 30:38.360] So, yeah, I didn't we know what to do about that but it was a genuine issue because the poor front Jack man was at risk
[30:38.360 -> 30:39.520] of
[30:39.520 -> 30:41.520] Yeah, exactly getting injured. Yeah
[30:42.040 -> 30:44.640] Dude, there's I gotta I gotta throw a meme in there
[30:44.640 -> 30:45.000] I don't I'm not gonna say who it was but at a Silverstone test with the Force India at one time we had exactly getting injured. Dude, there's I gotta I gotta throw a meme in there.
[30:45.000 -> 30:50.000] I'm not gonna say who it was, but at a Silverstone test with the Force India one time we had a
[30:54.000 -> 30:58.000] I gotta do that. Okay, I gotta I gotta wipe back. This is gonna fucking kill me, man.
[30:58.000 -> 31:03.000] So there was a test driver in Silverstone test. It was a cold winter day.
[31:03.000 -> 31:06.280] And all this stuff that happened
[31:06.280 -> 31:12.560] and there's basically a new front Jackman trialing, you know, cause like winter tests,
[31:12.560 -> 31:16.800] off season tests, it was cold. We're at Silverstone, we're at Fort St. up the road. One of the
[31:16.800 -> 31:22.320] new galats it stood in to be front Jackman. Well, the driver wasn't particularly good
[31:22.320 -> 31:25.040] at warming up the brakes and carbon brakes need a little bit of temperature
[31:25.040 -> 31:26.480] in them to work.
[31:26.480 -> 31:28.800] I'm standing at the table looking out the garage
[31:28.800 -> 31:33.560] and I see unnamed driver steaming into the box, mate,
[31:33.560 -> 31:37.040] and then all I see is the front jack man do a flip.
[31:37.040 -> 31:40.880] He was okay, he was bruised up, so it's not a joke.
[31:40.880 -> 31:42.720] He was bruised up.
[31:42.720 -> 31:46.560] And then, yeah, he steamrolled the dude and he's
[31:46.560 -> 31:51.640] okay, but later the driver was going on like, yeah, yeah, I didn't know what, I
[31:51.640 -> 31:54.580] don't really like the starts procedure talking about the procedure of the clutch
[31:54.580 -> 31:56.520] and everything's like, yeah, I don't really like your starts procedure.
[31:57.000 -> 32:00.440] And the controls engineer just looks at him and goes, I don't really like
[32:00.440 -> 32:03.000] your stopping procedure either, but, uh, get on with it.
[32:04.880 -> 32:08.700] He absolutely crucified the dude.
[32:08.780 -> 32:10.860] I was like, Oh my God.
[32:11.300 -> 32:12.700] Oh, that was spicy.
[32:13.020 -> 32:13.260] Yeah.
[32:13.260 -> 32:17.020] But was that during, if only that was during Netflix DTS era.
[32:17.040 -> 32:18.080] Oh my God.
[32:18.080 -> 32:21.860] I don't like your stopping procedure, but, um, it wasn't dressed.
[32:21.860 -> 32:26.140] I know, but, um, that's another thing is during a race week and you don't see it during practice,
[32:26.140 -> 32:30.660] but what teams will often do if it's a wet weekend, they do nothing.
[32:30.660 -> 32:32.920] If it's likely to be wet during the race, they won't do anything.
[32:32.920 -> 32:36.800] But if it's a dry weekend during practice, I don't know if they're doing it anymore,
[32:36.800 -> 32:40.600] but they will often come into the pit lane and lay rubber in the box.
[32:40.600 -> 32:42.120] Do they still do that or no?
[32:42.120 -> 32:43.120] Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[32:43.120 -> 32:44.960] So they will literally.
[32:44.960 -> 32:45.440] So what they'll do is they'll stop the, yeah. Yeah. So they will literally so what
[32:45.440 -> 32:50.240] they'll do is they'll stop the cars probably two feet short of the marks or further. We
[32:50.240 -> 32:55.340] will them back and the drivers will leave the box and just leave as much rubber as possible
[32:55.340 -> 32:58.960] so that when they're breaking on Sunday for their pit stops, they've got a little bit
[32:58.960 -> 33:03.760] extra grip. Yeah. So okay, we have somebody in the know confirmed they still lay rubber.
[33:03.760 -> 33:08.240] I wasn't sure if they outlawed that procedure because they always are tightening up on procedures
[33:08.240 -> 33:12.120] such as by point finds and, you know, clutch and start stuff, but it will actually lay
[33:12.120 -> 33:13.120] rubber in the box.
[33:13.120 -> 33:18.040] So it's going to be a dry weekend so that they can increase the grip, um, in the box.
[33:18.040 -> 33:19.040] Yeah.
[33:19.040 -> 33:23.920] And, um, when they come to an end of a run, when they come into the box, a lot of the
[33:23.920 -> 33:27.000] times they'll do like a practice pit stop before they wheel them back in as well.
[33:27.000 -> 33:33.500] Exactly, just using up all that time getting all the mechanics eyes in, working with the gear as well.
[33:33.500 -> 33:41.000] We've seen a couple of gear failures this weekend, guns not working, swapping them, brain fade, Ferrari strategies and all that.
[33:41.000 -> 33:44.000] So that's P2, P2 didn't really, anything didn't happen.
[33:44.000 -> 33:46.360] No, nothing really dramatic in P2.
[33:46.360 -> 33:49.400] I should know, cause I took the pleasure of watching it.
[33:49.400 -> 33:50.400] I didn't bother, honestly.
[33:50.400 -> 33:51.640] I just looked at the data afterwards
[33:51.640 -> 33:54.880] and it looked like it was basically Red Bull quick
[33:54.880 -> 33:56.840] and then high fuel runs.
[33:56.840 -> 33:58.160] It looked like Red Bull were quite strong
[33:58.160 -> 33:59.440] in their high fuel runs.
[33:59.440 -> 34:02.600] A lot of the teams were splitting wing levels
[34:02.600 -> 34:04.600] between the two drivers as well.
[34:04.600 -> 34:05.360] So it was a little bit of
[34:06.400 -> 34:10.720] shenanigans going on there. Yeah. So probably what they were looking at is checking if high
[34:10.720 -> 34:14.960] downforce versus the slightly lower downforce has any improvements on the degradation or not.
[34:14.960 -> 34:20.240] And as we'll get into it during the race degradation and whether it's a one stop or a two stop was a
[34:20.240 -> 34:26.480] very big topic, which made this race far superior to Abu Dhabi 2021. Although there
[34:26.480 -> 34:34.240] was only P2 for the championship is not that exciting. P1 very exciting. P2 I like I struggled
[34:34.240 -> 34:39.120] to get too excited about it just never mind the fact that it would have been great to see
[34:39.120 -> 34:46.560] Czech win that but anyway. Yeah FP3. So McLaren got their pit box resurfaced overnight.
[34:47.720 -> 34:49.200] Good for them.
[34:49.320 -> 34:52.760] Gasly had a bit of a incident where I think he had like a puncture
[34:53.240 -> 34:55.880] and it resulted in taking off that little.
[34:56.040 -> 34:58.280] I don't know what I don't know what a technical fucking term for it is,
[34:58.280 -> 35:00.000] but you know, the bit that goes over the front wheel.
[35:01.200 -> 35:07.260] The aero deflector at the front over the front wheel. Took that off and that was on the track.
[35:07.260 -> 35:08.440] So that caused a red flag.
[35:08.440 -> 35:10.540] And then we had our first bit of drama
[35:10.540 -> 35:15.540] where Hamilton overtook one of the Harses
[35:15.900 -> 35:18.500] and Gasly, I think.
[35:18.500 -> 35:19.340] Yeah.
[35:19.340 -> 35:20.820] I can't remember if it was those two.
[35:20.820 -> 35:21.660] What was that like?
[35:21.660 -> 35:23.340] Was it a fuss with the marshalling system
[35:23.340 -> 35:25.000] and lights and flags and all that?
[35:25.000 -> 35:31.000] I didn't read that part in particular. All I read was the difference in speed.
[35:31.000 -> 35:39.000] Hamon had like a 140km difference between those two cars and him when the red flag came out.
[35:39.000 -> 35:41.000] So basically it was just over speed.
[35:41.000 -> 35:45.300] It completely makes sense that he didn't get punished for that.
[35:45.400 -> 35:52.400] Um, so yeah, um, you can't just go to zero when a red flag comes out when you're at
[35:52.400 -> 35:52.900] that speed.
[35:53.900 -> 35:56.200] And that was, that's one of those things that's super weird.
[35:56.200 -> 35:59.900] It's like, as soon as somebody steps up, it's like Twitter's like, oh, fucking
[35:59.900 -> 36:00.800] penalize and penalize.
[36:00.800 -> 36:05.600] It's like, dude, come on, let, let me like, as me,
[36:05.600 -> 36:08.400] is you or is anybody else sitting at home TV?
[36:08.400 -> 36:10.000] Let the stewards have a chat with the driver,
[36:10.000 -> 36:12.260] understand what happened and get, get on with it.
[36:12.260 -> 36:13.620] We don't need fricking Twitter court.
[36:13.620 -> 36:17.000] And like, I'm, I get, I'm so annoyed when you have like
[36:17.000 -> 36:19.160] infractions like that, that impact the weekend.
[36:19.160 -> 36:21.600] It's like, come on, like, they're just boring.
[36:21.600 -> 36:23.320] Yeah, but common sense prevailed.
[36:23.320 -> 36:25.920] So yeah, good. there you go good that was
[36:25.920 -> 36:32.960] all of our drama um in the free practice sessions. Free practice is over yeah now we qualify.
[36:32.960 -> 36:38.800] Qualifying baby. You know what going from that qualifying session in Brazil which was changeable
[36:38.800 -> 36:45.600] weather and all sorts of chaos man I was hyped and especially hyped to see Kevin Magnuson taking pole.
[36:45.600 -> 36:48.360] You know even though it was like you know that was one of those things where you might
[36:48.360 -> 36:52.760] not have the outright pace but you do all the right things you're on the track at the
[36:52.760 -> 36:58.560] right time you nail your lap and you can reap the rewards of doing a good job in that session
[36:58.560 -> 37:03.680] and Kevin the amount of celebration that he had was so great like I love seeing the underdogs
[37:03.680 -> 37:05.160] celebrate because you see, you know,
[37:05.480 -> 37:08.180] actually Max wins his what 15th race of the season.
[37:09.020 -> 37:10.080] And he's like, cheers lads.
[37:10.160 -> 37:12.840] You know, cause it's like, you've been, you've been, you've not really had that
[37:12.840 -> 37:13.920] much of a challenge this season.
[37:13.920 -> 37:14.880] Let's let's call it what it is.
[37:14.880 -> 37:17.520] Maybe earlier in the season, it was challenging for other reasons, but now
[37:17.520 -> 37:19.680] it's just like, you know, it's like, well done lads.
[37:19.680 -> 37:19.960] Thanks.
[37:19.960 -> 37:22.480] And there's no, like, you don't have that excitement or the emotion, just
[37:22.480 -> 37:26.160] like you don't have any excitement over cinching up or not cinching P2.
[37:27.120 -> 37:28.880] This is, but, uh, we got, we got Q1.
[37:29.120 -> 37:30.920] We got Q1 this session was not as good.
[37:31.120 -> 37:35.240] We had like a sort of regular in terms of the, uh, order.
[37:35.880 -> 37:40.240] Um, but again, we had this bloody issue where all the cars decided to sort of
[37:40.240 -> 37:42.160] park up on the final two corners.
[37:42.920 -> 37:46.240] Uh, so much so that I went and rewatched qualifying today.
[37:46.800 -> 37:51.240] And a lot of them triggered the stop messages on the GPS system because
[37:51.240 -> 37:52.400] of how slow they were going.
[37:52.840 -> 37:55.240] And Alonzo's car even went into anti-stall.
[37:56.000 -> 37:56.560] At one point.
[37:56.560 -> 37:56.960] All right.
[37:57.000 -> 37:57.200] Yeah.
[37:57.200 -> 37:59.800] So he's in first gear and the revs are so low that the engine's like, I'm
[37:59.800 -> 38:02.280] going to open the clutch for you, uh, because you're about to stall the
[38:02.280 -> 38:03.000] engine, you dork.
[38:03.040 -> 38:03.360] Yeah.
[38:03.400 -> 38:07.360] So that's how like slow they were going.
[38:07.360 -> 38:11.600] Then we had the war crime of the century.
[38:11.600 -> 38:15.600] I can't believe that he got away with that.
[38:15.600 -> 38:22.960] Yeah, so as they were all queuing up Verstappen was behind a few other cars, Hamilton was
[38:22.960 -> 38:27.240] behind him. So Verstappen basically, he didn't want
[38:27.240 -> 38:34.160] to let Hamilton pass, so he's sort of drifted slightly into the middle to sort of say, hey,
[38:34.160 -> 38:37.000] please don't overtake me. I'm in the middle of a prep lap here.
[38:37.000 -> 38:41.560] Yeah, I've waited my turn for the queue of cars just the same as you've done. If you
[38:41.560 -> 38:49.440] have a problem, take it up with your race engineer for dropping you and this time you're in traffic. Yep, but Hamilton overtakes him anyway.
[38:51.200 -> 38:58.000] There was a bit of movement to the right on Verstappen's wheel as Hamilton overtook him
[38:59.120 -> 39:04.160] and that was it basically. The internet wanted to string him up for attempted murder on Lewis
[39:04.160 -> 39:05.200] Hamilton.
[39:09.600 -> 39:15.440] I think that's probably a full one season van. I'll tell you what that is exactly like. There's a slip road near where I used to head to work and it's a very wide one.
[39:16.320 -> 39:21.200] And it's one lane but it's wide enough just in case there's an emergency and other cars can get around.
[39:23.520 -> 39:26.640] And there's usually somebody's trying to get around.
[39:26.640 -> 39:29.120] I just make my van a little bit wider than it needs to be
[39:29.120 -> 39:31.880] so that they're discouraged from doing that.
[39:31.880 -> 39:34.120] I haven't been taken to jail yet, which is good.
[39:34.120 -> 39:36.120] And I don't think so, but.
[39:36.120 -> 39:39.400] Yeah, it's just a case of Verstappen
[39:39.400 -> 39:42.080] doesn't want to yield his position in the queue.
[39:42.080 -> 39:45.760] And Lewis doesn't want to wait because his prep is probably
[39:45.760 -> 39:50.040] different on the Mercedes to the Red Bull where he can't afford to slow down because
[39:50.040 -> 39:54.080] he needs the heat whereas Max can afford to.
[39:54.080 -> 39:57.760] So it's not a big deal man, it's just a qualifying thing.
[39:57.760 -> 39:59.240] But what do we get?
[39:59.240 -> 40:03.040] Latifi, Albon, Bottas, Gasly, Magnussen knocked out in Q1.
[40:03.040 -> 40:04.040] Big sad.
[40:04.040 -> 40:06.160] Yeah I don't know what was wrong with Gasly.
[40:06.160 -> 40:07.600] He just didn't have the pace.
[40:07.600 -> 40:08.440] I'm very surprised.
[40:08.440 -> 40:09.840] He didn't get a good lap together.
[40:09.840 -> 40:13.160] His best sectors, like he could have been into Q2,
[40:13.160 -> 40:15.280] but he didn't get all the sectors together at once.
[40:15.280 -> 40:19.400] So we'll see how he does in Alpine next season.
[40:19.400 -> 40:21.200] Hopefully they have their engine a little bit more reliable
[40:21.200 -> 40:25.520] because he's not had a very exciting season has he?
[40:26.480 -> 40:34.080] No not really. So yeah sort of Latifi Albin the usual suspects there. Bottas, Gassi, Magnussen,
[40:34.080 -> 40:43.920] yep. Shame for Magnussen after his time out in Brazil. But yeah Q2. So in Q2
[40:48.840 -> 40:54.520] But yeah, Q2, so in Q2, I was watching again Q2 qualifying today, I said, but there's a really cool onboard lap that they showed during the session of Stroll.
[40:54.520 -> 40:59.600] And I picked this one out because Stroll gets a lot of stick, right?
[40:59.600 -> 41:03.680] Watch this onboard lap and watch how many times he's changing settings on the wheel
[41:03.680 -> 41:09.800] because you can see it really well because it's like dark. Yeah. And props to him or
[41:09.800 -> 41:13.800] anyone that does this because the amount of times he's changing settings and how
[41:13.800 -> 41:17.640] quick he's doing it while flying around the lap. It's a super interesting watch
[41:17.640 -> 41:22.240] so I thoroughly recommend you go and find that.
[41:22.240 -> 41:25.000] Vettel... One of what was you gonna say?
[41:25.000 -> 41:28.400] Just real quick, like one of the things that they are changing around those laps is like
[41:28.400 -> 41:32.720] you've got, there's so many different demands on a qualifying lap in terms of like, what's
[41:32.720 -> 41:38.960] the best brake balance for this long straight braking corner? What's the breast brake balance?
[41:38.960 -> 41:43.440] What's the best? Get the double D cups out on the brake balance.
[41:43.440 -> 41:45.160] Yeah, damn it. What's on the brake balance. Yeah.
[41:46.240 -> 41:48.340] Damn it. What's the best brake balance setting for this corner?
[41:48.340 -> 41:51.320] You know, like you've got a longer corner,
[41:51.320 -> 41:52.220] it's a faster entry,
[41:52.220 -> 41:55.920] but braking and the brake balance have a significant impact
[41:55.920 -> 41:58.020] on the actual car balance when you're cornering,
[41:58.020 -> 41:59.240] especially on the entry.
[41:59.240 -> 42:01.160] So, and the way you heat up the tires to the corner.
[42:01.160 -> 42:03.240] So the guys and gals will have been working
[42:03.240 -> 42:10.160] on that settings all weekend from P1, P2, P3, dialing it in, what's the schedule and all the drivers that have a high
[42:10.160 -> 42:13.200] CPU are the ones that can find that and adjust it.
[42:13.200 -> 42:16.520] Because every corner you're trying to optimize the slip on all four tires, get the right
[42:16.520 -> 42:21.040] balance, probably changing some differential settings and everything else. So when drivers
[42:21.040 -> 42:26.280] get that right, it's super cool to see that. And that's a performance engineer's bread and butter
[42:26.280 -> 42:29.780] in qualifying is dialing in the brake and the diff
[42:29.780 -> 42:31.120] to get the most out of the car balance
[42:31.120 -> 42:34.220] because you will always be changing those settings,
[42:34.220 -> 42:35.600] chasing the balance through the session.
[42:35.600 -> 42:37.320] You're like, okay, Q1, all right,
[42:37.320 -> 42:40.360] let's say turn five braking doesn't feel right.
[42:40.360 -> 42:41.200] Okay, we've got a different map,
[42:41.200 -> 42:43.860] try in turn five, try this setting now.
[42:43.860 -> 42:47.600] And they'll be having those conversations when when the drivers in the garage with performance
[42:47.600 -> 42:52.040] engineer and they'll be going through it trying to get the most out of it because when you're
[42:52.040 -> 42:57.120] anywhere on the grid, but it take for example, a team like Aston Martin, you could be out
[42:57.120 -> 43:02.880] in Q3 or you could be on Q1 or you could be make it into Q3 and Lance didn't make it out
[43:02.880 -> 43:07.000] of Q2. He qualified 14 14th but Seb did manage to put
[43:07.000 -> 43:11.400] the Aston into q3. Yeah he did. His final F1 qualifying session. Even though he was constantly
[43:11.400 -> 43:16.400] upset and complaining about running into traffic on the last corner.
[43:16.400 -> 43:20.960] Understandable. Yeah understandable given the shenanigans that were happening there
[43:20.960 -> 43:29.440] but he did it so well done him into q3. Danny Rick into Q3 as well, which not very common
[43:29.440 -> 43:30.940] this year, sadly.
[43:31.880 -> 43:33.440] No, but yeah.
[43:33.440 -> 43:35.000] Well, more on him in a second.
[43:35.000 -> 43:40.000] But we lost Renyu Zhou, Stroll, Mick, Sonoda, and Alonzo.
[43:42.240 -> 43:43.480] Alonzo was a bit of a surprise,
[43:43.480 -> 43:45.760] but I just don't think he managed to get that
[43:45.760 -> 43:46.760] lap together.
[43:46.760 -> 43:53.220] He's, he's in full implosion. He's leaving the team, leaving the team middle fingers.
[43:53.220 -> 43:59.360] See you consulator. Yeah. He checked dark Lord. Yeah. But Joe, Joe has been super impressive
[43:59.360 -> 44:10.560] and somebody said this earlier, Joe never won F2, but Joe's been super impressive as a rookie. Um, and he kind of, he's, he's done a really good job all season and I'm,
[44:11.300 -> 44:12.500] he's very fashionable as well.
[44:12.540 -> 44:14.000] So he's got the drip.
[44:14.180 -> 44:15.160] He's got some pace.
[44:15.160 -> 44:15.700] Yeah, he does.
[44:15.760 -> 44:18.920] Um, I'm looking forward to seeing what he can do with another season in
[44:18.920 -> 44:22.440] formula one, because, uh, definitely he's been impressive.
[44:23.480 -> 44:23.680] Yeah.
[44:23.680 -> 44:24.560] And he's definitely earned it.
[44:24.680 -> 44:26.680] So yes, one, uh, one rookie of the year. definitely he's been impressive yeah he's definitely earned it so yes one
[44:26.680 -> 44:31.240] one rookie of the year only rookie right yeah I was gonna say he's not hard
[44:31.240 -> 44:32.920] because he was the only one but there you go
[44:32.920 -> 44:38.960] ah heck ah heck but you know he's he set out his stall this year and he I think
[44:38.960 -> 44:45.000] he's done quite well even when he had that mad Silverstone shunt at the start.
[44:45.000 -> 44:47.360] That, oh, that was frightening, man.
[44:47.360 -> 44:48.200] I know, right?
[44:50.080 -> 44:54.080] But sometimes you might see drivers take a confidence hit
[44:54.080 -> 44:55.480] in like that, like, cause that's like
[44:55.480 -> 45:00.080] an absolutely catastrophic, life-threatening, severe crash.
[45:00.080 -> 45:05.120] It's horrifying, but he doesn't have that self-preservation.
[45:05.120 -> 45:06.160] No, he's like, fuck it.
[45:06.160 -> 45:08.080] Firing, yeah, full send, lads.
[45:09.040 -> 45:11.360] Yeah, so big up him.
[45:12.480 -> 45:13.360] Q3.
[45:14.600 -> 45:18.520] So what I found interesting is that the session ended with Hamilton
[45:18.520 -> 45:22.840] having the purple sector one, and he may have had enough in the tank
[45:22.840 -> 45:26.880] for a second row start, but he had a mistake in the final sector.
[45:26.880 -> 45:28.320] But the bit I was interested in
[45:28.320 -> 45:29.960] was in the interview afterwards,
[45:29.960 -> 45:32.500] he said there was issues with the temperature splits
[45:32.500 -> 45:34.440] on the brakes, which we've experienced
[45:34.440 -> 45:36.160] throughout the whole season.
[45:36.160 -> 45:39.520] That's the first I've heard of that from Mercedes.
[45:39.520 -> 45:42.320] They've been mentioning brakes a couple of times
[45:42.320 -> 45:44.120] since the brake, that it's been,
[45:44.120 -> 45:50.760] I've caught it a couple of times, but I don't think it's been discussed often let's say outside of a session
[45:50.760 -> 45:53.920] like it'll just be one of those throwaways that they talk about but I've heard it a couple
[45:53.920 -> 46:00.080] of times but and could you explain temperature splits on the brakes for perhaps people that
[46:00.080 -> 46:09.580] aren't quite I'm a failed f1 engineer I don't really know about them. Actually. That was also part of my bread and butter. Probably what's happened, like they've probably
[46:09.580 -> 46:12.880] fit new breaks. I'm not sure if they're doing new new material starting in P3. I think they
[46:12.880 -> 46:17.100] will be before we just put new material on every session. So you'd run it or use shit
[46:17.100 -> 46:24.520] set in P1. Probably possibly a new set in P2. Run that set in P3. Then you'd rebuild
[46:24.520 -> 46:25.640] the breaks with new material
[46:25.640 -> 46:28.320] for qualifying, but now I think they're running
[46:28.320 -> 46:30.120] new material from P3, but probably what's happening
[46:30.120 -> 46:33.000] is when you don't brake hard enough in a straight line,
[46:33.000 -> 46:36.120] you can develop a temperature split in the brake.
[46:36.120 -> 46:38.440] So basically one brake doesn't work particularly well,
[46:38.440 -> 46:40.640] the other one gets hot, it starts working better,
[46:40.640 -> 46:43.880] and because it's hotter and it produces more grip,
[46:43.880 -> 46:45.040] it generates more bite
[46:45.040 -> 46:46.600] the next time you break and the split
[46:46.600 -> 46:50.200] and break temperatures is kind of like self-fulfilling.
[46:50.200 -> 46:52.040] And that's one of those things you have to be very,
[46:52.040 -> 46:55.520] on a lot of this break, but you have to be very confident
[46:55.520 -> 46:58.060] on the breaking applications in a straight line.
[46:58.060 -> 47:00.360] And one of the things that's probably hurt that
[47:00.360 -> 47:02.420] is their outlap preparation.
[47:02.420 -> 47:04.520] Because you've, you know, say you're following people
[47:04.520 -> 47:06.100] and you've, you know, been in traffic
[47:06.100 -> 47:08.280] and you haven't been able to do a good solid,
[47:08.280 -> 47:11.740] you know, 200 kilometer an hour down to 90,
[47:11.740 -> 47:13.860] like braking stop to get a big heat,
[47:13.860 -> 47:15.300] a big hit of temperature into the brakes.
[47:15.300 -> 47:16.620] So that's problematic.
[47:16.620 -> 47:19.320] But Mercedes seem to be mentioning it quite a bit more.
[47:19.320 -> 47:21.980] So potentially they've done something
[47:21.980 -> 47:24.880] with their cooling or rim heating or anything else
[47:24.880 -> 47:25.120] that will
[47:25.120 -> 47:28.640] impact how the brakes are heated and cooled and so on.
[47:28.640 -> 47:30.200] So super interesting there.
[47:30.360 -> 47:30.600] Yeah.
[47:30.600 -> 47:37.120] And a red bull one, two in qualifying, which is their first front row lockout of the year
[47:37.880 -> 47:41.000] and their first since 2018, which I thought was quite surprising.
[47:41.400 -> 47:42.360] That blows my mind.
[47:42.440 -> 47:48.120] I, uh, I didn't, I didn't, I wouldn't have thought wouldn't have thought that they had a 1-2
[47:48.120 -> 47:53.720] this year but they haven't. Nope, it's the first since 2018 that was. Heck. So yeah,
[47:53.720 -> 47:58.880] it worked out quite well for Sheko. He got a good toe I think from Max to help bring
[47:58.880 -> 48:07.720] him up there. I looked at the data and I don't think it was that strong. Was it not? Okay, I'll refer to you because I haven't looked at it.
[48:07.720 -> 48:11.160] No, but I thought the same thing because the team were like, yeah, big ups, big ups.
[48:11.160 -> 48:15.560] Unless there's something super skewed with the fast F1 data, which there was,
[48:15.560 -> 48:19.160] there was something messed up, but usually you can tell top speed deltas,
[48:19.160 -> 48:21.160] even if the corners are misaligned.
[48:21.160 -> 48:23.760] I think it was worth a couple of hundreds tops.
[48:23.760 -> 48:26.740] They were within four seconds
[48:26.740 -> 48:30.300] of each other. So that's not a massive toe. It's not like it wasn't like one of those
[48:30.300 -> 48:34.980] like Monza slingshot modes where they line it up and go, and you know, they grab like
[48:34.980 -> 48:39.720] ninth gear and days of thunder that shit. It wasn't that they were like, Max was out
[48:39.720 -> 48:44.100] first about a four second gap. Check it was behind in terms of straight line speed. He
[48:44.100 -> 48:49.120] probably found a couple hundreds, less than half a a tenth of a second, less than a tenth of
[48:49.120 -> 48:55.840] a second tops on that lap. But it was a solid qualifying lap from both of them. Max scrappily
[48:55.840 -> 48:58.320] getting it together in the end. It wasn't a perfect lap.
[48:58.320 -> 49:04.160] Yeah, Danny O'Rick got into Q3, but it was pointless really because he could only manage
[49:04.160 -> 49:08.720] P10, but that would turn into a P13 because he was still carrying that penalty
[49:08.720 -> 49:11.040] from Brazil from the Magnussen contact.
[49:11.040 -> 49:15.800] Yeah, when he just sniffed Magnussen's gearbox a little bit.
[49:15.800 -> 49:23.360] So it ended Verstappen, Perez, Charles, Sainz, Hamilton, Russell, Norris, Ocon, Vettel, and
[49:23.360 -> 49:25.520] Ricardo.
[49:25.520 -> 49:30.040] It wasn't like I was, I was enjoying seeing like, you know, Hamilton, purple sector one,
[49:30.040 -> 49:31.800] green sector two, and then yellow sector three.
[49:31.800 -> 49:33.440] And it's like one of those, come on.
[49:33.440 -> 49:34.440] Yeah.
[49:34.440 -> 49:35.440] Oh, bummer.
[49:35.440 -> 49:36.440] But anyway, that was qualifying.
[49:36.440 -> 49:38.280] Did anything crazy happen Saturday night?
[49:38.280 -> 49:40.080] Everybody rock straight into a Sunday.
[49:40.080 -> 49:41.080] I think.
[49:41.080 -> 49:42.080] Not like I recall.
[49:42.080 -> 49:43.080] Yeah.
[49:43.080 -> 49:47.480] So the only, the only changes we've got the three grid place penalty for Danny Rick on
[49:47.480 -> 49:48.560] the grid.
[49:48.560 -> 49:55.560] So the top eight or so are fine, then Nando goes into P10, and they shift around for that.
[49:55.560 -> 49:59.240] So we've got Seb and Nando on the back row of the top 10.
[49:59.240 -> 50:06.640] Sunota, Schumacher, Ricardo, Stroll, Joe, Magnussen, Gasly, Bottas, Albon, Latifi.
[50:06.640 -> 50:09.200] But the first three rows, Red Bull,
[50:10.360 -> 50:11.760] Red Bull, Ferrari, Mercedes.
[50:11.760 -> 50:13.680] Yeah, that was very pleasing to my,
[50:15.240 -> 50:16.720] what do you call it?
[50:16.720 -> 50:17.800] Obsessive compulsive disorder.
[50:17.800 -> 50:20.880] AOCD, yeah, exactly, like yes.
[50:20.880 -> 50:21.840] Yes.
[50:21.840 -> 50:23.240] Yeah, so that was qualifying.
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[51:44.720 -> 51:47.160] Now we can move on to the race.
[51:47.160 -> 51:48.280] Love that.
[51:48.280 -> 51:51.660] So the race was pretty straightforward, honestly.
[51:51.660 -> 51:55.920] So last year was basically a one stop everybody and it's just like the snooze fest until the
[51:55.920 -> 51:59.280] tiffy bend it and then all the shit happened.
[51:59.280 -> 52:00.840] So I don't don't even want to touch that.
[52:00.840 -> 52:03.520] I wouldn't touch that with dance, but this was an interesting race.
[52:03.520 -> 52:07.100] It was a predominantly a two stop race, but a couple of people made the one stop work
[52:07.100 -> 52:10.520] of her stappan and the Claire did run away with the one stop, but Paris was catching
[52:10.520 -> 52:13.400] Leclerc at the end of the race, which is super interesting.
[52:13.400 -> 52:18.280] The Claire goes on to seal seal P2 in the driver's championship, three points ahead
[52:18.280 -> 52:25.000] of Paris. So that means if we're stopping in Paris had swapped or whatever else in Brazil,
[52:25.000 -> 52:28.000] Leclerc would have still won by one point.
[52:28.000 -> 52:29.000] So, yeah.
[52:29.000 -> 52:32.000] So, again, this is how bored I was.
[52:32.000 -> 52:35.000] I re-watched the race again today as well as qualifying.
[52:35.000 -> 52:43.000] Perez's first pit stop, his out lap, he got, I don't know if it was his out lap,
[52:43.000 -> 52:47.000] probably the lap after, but he has a bit of a ding-dong with Vettel
[52:47.000 -> 52:51.500] which I think held him up a bit. So I wonder if that never happened.
[52:51.500 -> 52:53.500] It was, yeah, it was the first stop.
[52:53.500 -> 52:59.000] So I wonder if that never happened and he managed to get past Vettel and that would be the end of it.
[52:59.000 -> 53:08.560] I wonder if he had enough at the end to have taken the Claire. Ah, that's a really good point. And I'm just looking at the race trace now, which is on the buy me a coffee.
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[53:23.000 -> 53:23.860] that we're talking about.
[53:24.160 -> 53:31.360] Um, yeah, it is there. So looking at Paris's race now, he, that first stop, basically,
[53:31.360 -> 53:34.560] they wanted him to be a bit faster than that first stop. If he'd had a little bit more pace
[53:34.560 -> 53:40.000] and hadn't tailed off, he would have cleared federal that would have helped him out massively.
[53:40.000 -> 53:47.840] And then they would have basically, if he had not lost that time, Max would have stopped behind him.
[53:48.800 -> 53:51.440] Max would have been on the tire saving one stop.
[53:51.440 -> 53:54.400] Checo could have gone on for an optimal two stop race.
[53:54.400 -> 53:55.840] So Checo didn't have to deal with that.
[53:55.840 -> 54:00.400] But it looked like at the times when when Checo came up on the back of Max around lap 22,
[54:01.600 -> 54:03.440] his pace did suffer quite a bit.
[54:03.440 -> 54:06.520] And it was one of those things that he didn't get within one second DRS, but
[54:06.520 -> 54:08.820] it was like, he's like, I'm, I'm being held up here a little bit.
[54:08.820 -> 54:11.600] And it's like, I think the team was looking at that more, man.
[54:12.200 -> 54:12.540] Yeah, I know.
[54:12.540 -> 54:15.640] It's like, it's like, well, I, but he saw it with a couple of other people.
[54:15.640 -> 54:18.740] So I, I saw the exact same thing, but we saw it with a couple of other people,
[54:19.120 -> 54:21.320] uh, later on, which was interesting.
[54:21.320 -> 54:24.520] I'm, I'm struggling to find those exact ones.
[54:24.600 -> 54:26.100] Uh, it was signs coming up on the to find those exact ones. It was signs coming
[54:26.100 -> 54:29.720] up on the back of Leclerc actually, but Leclerc had newer tires on when they stopped after
[54:29.720 -> 54:35.000] his first stop. But the thing to take away from this is I think if Paris had had a little
[54:35.000 -> 54:40.080] bit more pace, his first stint was not ideal. He got into quite a bit of degradation and
[54:40.080 -> 54:44.600] was not able to hang on to max. He had to stop early. He lost pace. But if that would
[54:44.600 -> 54:48.160] have worked, he would have stopped earlier, put on a fresher tire, gone
[54:48.160 -> 54:52.800] faster than ahead of her, stop in and then box basically as soon as he got in the way
[54:52.800 -> 54:55.920] of her stop and he would have beat the clear because we look at the race trace.
[54:55.920 -> 54:59.200] He's almost in DRS range of Leclerc on the final lap.
[54:59.200 -> 55:03.400] Other things that got in the way of his race was having to come through Hamilton, who was
[55:03.400 -> 55:09.600] also trying to one stop. He had to work for it. They had a couple of switchbacks, super cool. I've
[55:09.600 -> 55:13.760] got to see a bit of racing there. Um, and then he is basically, we're just, it's like,
[55:13.760 -> 55:17.180] it was like last year was waiting. Whereas last year we were watching Lewis leave max
[55:17.180 -> 55:21.080] in the dust. And this year we're like, is Paris going to catch the Claire? And you're
[55:21.080 -> 55:24.360] looking at the timing. He's like, if he can keep this, you know, yeah. And so the second
[55:24.360 -> 55:27.080] one second, a lot difference, he'll catch him.
[55:27.080 -> 55:30.280] Uh, took a little bit too long to get around.
[55:30.280 -> 55:35.000] Hamilton was returning no favors as, as there are no favors.
[55:35.000 -> 55:41.880] Well, I really, I feel like Perez got a little bit unlucky and just didn't have as much pace
[55:41.880 -> 55:44.760] as they needed to have in that first stint.
[55:44.760 -> 55:49.920] And that cost him his race and people like, oh, why didn't Max give up when I don't think
[55:49.920 -> 55:55.080] there was an option. Max is Max's record hunting wins in a season. And I feel like that's probably
[55:55.080 -> 56:00.760] more valuable to Max then P2 in the driver's championship.
[56:00.760 -> 56:07.400] Yep. But that's we go back to the single-mindedness of snapping.
[56:07.400 -> 56:13.000] And it's not a surprise, like, which is, love it or hate it, we're fine.
[56:13.000 -> 56:14.000] Yeah.
[56:14.000 -> 56:18.720] I've completely forgotten what I was going to say now.
[56:18.720 -> 56:24.280] Hamilton first DNF mechanical with the car this season has been super, despite the fact
[56:24.280 -> 56:25.560] it started quite far off the pace, and later in the year has been super, despite the fact it started quite far
[56:25.560 -> 56:29.600] off the pace and later in the season has come closer, especially at the higher downforce
[56:29.600 -> 56:36.440] circuits. Hamilton DNF, the hydraulics issue, potentially related to early race getting
[56:36.440 -> 56:40.400] launched over the sausage curb. What did we make of that?
[56:40.400 -> 56:47.500] I hate the sausage curbs. Every time we have one of these incidences and the car gets launched, I just think, why do we have these sausage curbs?
[56:47.500 -> 56:49.500] It wasn't there last year when you...
[56:49.500 -> 56:51.500] No, I don't think it was there last year, was it?
[56:51.500 -> 56:53.500] Maybe they put it in because of that, I don't know.
[56:53.500 -> 56:57.500] Yeah, they're like, well, we're not gonna call you out for running off here,
[56:57.500 -> 57:02.000] but, you know what, next year we're gonna put a sausage there and that's gonna absolutely bone you.
[57:02.000 -> 57:06.480] Yeah, and it did. So, I mean, I'm fairly confident in saying
[57:06.480 -> 57:09.400] that that probably caused his hydraulics issue
[57:09.400 -> 57:10.280] later on in the race,
[57:10.280 -> 57:13.720] wherever it was a sensor issue or something like that.
[57:13.720 -> 57:16.920] Cause he had some fun and games all throughout the race.
[57:16.920 -> 57:17.760] Yeah.
[57:17.760 -> 57:19.360] Over the radio.
[57:19.360 -> 57:21.520] It looked like, from what I could tell,
[57:21.520 -> 57:23.560] he was low on battery after fighting with Sainz
[57:23.560 -> 57:24.480] saying he was losing performance.
[57:24.480 -> 57:26.600] Cause his second and third stint, or
[57:26.660 -> 57:29.980] sorry, his second stint performance, he was on one stop.
[57:30.200 -> 57:31.940] His second stint performance was very good.
[57:31.940 -> 57:35.480] So I'm not really, maybe the car was damaged and he was just
[57:35.480 -> 57:39.120] had a lot more pace in hand, but he was basically going to go on to finish.
[57:39.120 -> 57:41.880] I reckon signs was going to get him signs was on a much newer tire.
[57:42.160 -> 57:43.240] Signs was coming through that.
[57:43.480 -> 57:44.640] Uh, he was going to finish fifth.
[57:47.180 -> 57:48.120] But DNF, unfortunately.
[57:50.600 -> 57:52.760] Yeah, and during that turn one incident where Hamilton rejoined the track,
[57:52.760 -> 57:55.720] it's what the way it works is he got a bit of run up.
[57:55.720 -> 57:57.600] So he managed to overtake signs.
[57:58.920 -> 58:01.240] But then he left his, Hamilton left the door wide open
[58:01.240 -> 58:02.160] for him, basically.
[58:02.160 -> 58:04.480] Yeah, but then the team came over the radio
[58:04.480 -> 58:10.560] and said that Hamilton should give it back to Carlos which I think was missed. No exactly that was because
[58:10.560 -> 58:16.720] because we had engineers telling Hamilton to give the place back because the team felt that we're
[58:16.720 -> 58:21.520] gonna get slapped by this. They investigated it and then he'd given the place back and no further
[58:21.520 -> 58:27.280] action. So I think they were going to ask them to give it back. Yeah. And the team was like, let's just get this over with, make it clean and you can have another
[58:27.280 -> 58:32.400] girl. But I did like how he gave the place back like two turns before the DRS zone. So he immediately
[58:32.400 -> 58:36.720] took it back, which I thought was hilarious and smart. Yeah, absolutely. But like, that's,
[58:36.720 -> 58:41.920] that's the kind of thing like, get that CP working. He's got shit loads of capacity. He knows what
[58:41.920 -> 58:45.720] he's doing. And that was smart because you do it in a way
[58:45.720 -> 58:47.080] which does not impact your race.
[58:47.080 -> 58:49.880] Unlike Gasly where they just leave it out
[58:49.880 -> 58:52.140] in the other race, which, what was that?
[58:52.140 -> 58:52.980] Three races ago.
[58:52.980 -> 58:55.640] That was, yeah.
[58:55.640 -> 58:57.680] Mercedes had some other woes during the race.
[58:57.680 -> 59:00.240] That was big unfortunate.
[59:00.240 -> 59:01.320] Hold that thought.
[59:01.320 -> 59:02.840] I've got World Cup news.
[59:02.840 -> 59:06.440] Wales have equalized against the USA with 85 minutes to go.
[59:06.440 -> 59:07.440] USA!
[59:07.440 -> 59:09.440] So there you go.
[59:09.440 -> 59:11.680] Oh and it was a penalty as well.
[59:11.680 -> 59:12.680] Oh no.
[59:12.680 -> 59:13.680] Cheaters.
[59:13.680 -> 59:14.680] Cheaters.
[59:14.680 -> 59:18.840] So yeah, Mercedes, continued issues.
[59:18.840 -> 59:21.080] What happened?
[59:21.080 -> 59:24.720] They botched up Russell's pit stop, didn't they?
[59:24.720 -> 59:28.640] Delayed on the left rear? or one of the rears.
[59:29.000 -> 59:29.860] I think it was right rear.
[59:30.100 -> 59:32.540] Um, and then sort of panicked a little bit.
[59:32.660 -> 59:36.560] I don't know if it was George or the guy that controls the lights, but basically
[59:36.560 -> 59:42.560] let him straight out into the path of one of the McLarens, which was a bit dicey.
[59:43.100 -> 59:43.340] Yeah.
[59:43.340 -> 59:44.420] George, couple of areas like that.
[59:44.460 -> 59:44.820] I see it.
[59:44.820 -> 59:45.560] It's okay, mate.
[59:45.560 -> 59:47.080] Because they did warn him,
[59:47.080 -> 59:48.080] because that's one of the things they do
[59:48.080 -> 59:49.960] is the engineer will be watching the stop.
[59:49.960 -> 59:50.920] If there's a car coming,
[59:50.920 -> 59:54.040] they'll say something like alongside, car alongside.
[59:54.040 -> 59:56.560] And George did clock it,
[59:56.560 -> 59:58.280] but the McLaren slammed on their brakes
[59:58.280 -> 01:00:00.220] and they got slapped to the five second penalty for it.
[01:00:00.220 -> 01:00:01.400] And George just got on with it.
[01:00:01.400 -> 01:00:03.480] He was like, right, we need to make the strategy work.
[01:00:03.480 -> 01:00:06.120] So fair enough, fair enough. But those things it. He was like, right, we need to make the strategy work. So, fair enough, fair enough.
[01:00:06.120 -> 01:00:08.240] But those things happen, that was unfortunate.
[01:00:08.240 -> 01:00:12.680] Because George has been, as much as we've given him abuse
[01:00:12.680 -> 01:00:15.160] for being a little bit of a weapon at times this season,
[01:00:15.160 -> 01:00:18.200] he's had a solid season, the lad.
[01:00:18.200 -> 01:00:21.720] I think, after seeing him hop in,
[01:00:23.240 -> 01:00:24.440] was it Bahrain the other year,
[01:00:24.440 -> 01:00:26.460] and his performance in the Williams being solid,
[01:00:26.460 -> 01:00:28.560] he's a dude, he's a contender.
[01:00:28.560 -> 01:00:29.400] I don't.
[01:00:29.400 -> 01:00:30.220] I don't.
[01:00:30.220 -> 01:00:31.440] He also gave us a new one this weekend.
[01:00:31.440 -> 01:00:32.280] Did you hear him?
[01:00:32.280 -> 01:00:34.680] I think maybe he's in free practice
[01:00:34.680 -> 01:00:36.200] on one of the qualifyings.
[01:00:36.200 -> 01:00:38.740] They told him a message and he came back and he said,
[01:00:38.740 -> 01:00:39.580] right-o.
[01:00:40.440 -> 01:00:41.280] Right-o.
[01:00:41.280 -> 01:00:43.480] Right-o and just, yeah, I thought that was quite amusing.
[01:00:43.480 -> 01:00:45.520] So we got, was it crikey, blimey, and right-o. Righto. And just, yeah, I thought that was quite amusing. So we got... Was it Crikey?
[01:00:45.520 -> 01:00:46.520] Blimey.
[01:00:46.520 -> 01:00:47.520] Blimey and Righto.
[01:00:47.520 -> 01:00:53.040] So there you go.
[01:00:53.040 -> 01:00:56.160] That's Cotswold's life, isn't it?
[01:00:56.160 -> 01:00:57.160] Yeah.
[01:00:57.160 -> 01:00:58.160] Righto.
[01:00:58.160 -> 01:00:59.160] Righto.
[01:00:59.160 -> 01:01:05.440] But, so, I mean, this race is basically a series of teams having having unfortunate events.
[01:01:05.440 -> 01:01:07.760] You know, Paris missing out on the pace.
[01:01:07.760 -> 01:01:10.280] Hamilton with the clash in the DNF, Russell unsafe release.
[01:01:10.280 -> 01:01:16.540] And realistically, Russell's race, that unsafe release and for the five second penalty maybe
[01:01:16.540 -> 01:01:18.960] cost him a chance at fighting signs.
[01:01:18.960 -> 01:01:22.800] He basically was covering signs.
[01:01:22.800 -> 01:01:24.560] I don't think he had the pace to overtake signs.
[01:01:24.560 -> 01:01:25.900] He would have followed signs to the end.
[01:01:26.100 -> 01:01:29.500] Basically, I think Hamilton would have got him as a result of that five second
[01:01:29.500 -> 01:01:29.800] penalty.
[01:01:29.800 -> 01:01:34.400] But if he was closer to signs, um, Russell might have come through Hamilton on
[01:01:34.400 -> 01:01:35.700] track if that had happened.
[01:01:35.700 -> 01:01:41.000] But, uh, the dark Lord himself on his final race for Alpine.
[01:01:41.000 -> 01:01:41.700] Yeah.
[01:01:42.000 -> 01:01:43.400] Was it like 27?
[01:01:43.900 -> 01:01:45.840] Yeah, blows it up.
[01:01:45.840 -> 01:01:47.900] Yeah, he did another one of his,
[01:01:49.240 -> 01:01:51.200] what was it, Mexico, where you reckon
[01:01:51.200 -> 01:01:53.760] he just pulled the clutch in and just blew the engine?
[01:01:53.760 -> 01:01:55.720] I think that was, yeah, or Singapore or something.
[01:01:55.720 -> 01:01:56.920] He's just like, fuck it, I'm out of this.
[01:01:56.920 -> 01:01:57.760] I wanna go home.
[01:01:57.760 -> 01:01:58.580] Buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh.
[01:01:58.580 -> 01:02:00.080] Yeah, I'm done, see you later.
[01:02:00.080 -> 01:02:03.360] He Mecha-chromed it, but people have been talking about this,
[01:02:03.360 -> 01:02:05.360] I didn't look at it until today.
[01:02:07.320 -> 01:02:07.360] Alonzo's had five retirements this season.
[01:02:08.680 -> 01:02:09.360] Arkon's only had two.
[01:02:11.160 -> 01:02:11.440] Conspiracy, conspiracy.
[01:02:16.720 -> 01:02:17.680] I reckon it's just, I don't know, is it karma?
[01:02:20.640 -> 01:02:20.720] Well, apparently this was a water leak, chat is telling us.
[01:02:21.960 -> 01:02:24.440] This is what it came down to.
[01:02:29.360 -> 01:02:34.320] Yeah. I don't know man. Just sometimes that's just the way the cookie crumbles. Yeah it is, it's unlucky but uh so be it. So he's
[01:02:34.320 -> 01:02:38.160] he's done he's on to Aston Martin so he can him and Lance Stroll can take
[01:02:38.160 -> 01:02:41.200] take each other out every race and take some of the distraction from Verstappen
[01:02:41.200 -> 01:02:43.680] and Hamilton crashing into each other at every race.
[01:02:43.680 -> 01:02:45.100] We'll have two things.
[01:02:45.440 -> 01:02:46.420] That's right. Just going back to Alonzo.
[01:02:46.420 -> 01:02:48.940] I like how this is a little water leak.
[01:02:49.640 -> 01:02:53.000] Um, but he's perfectly fine to launch his car into a fucking lower orbit
[01:02:53.000 -> 01:02:54.460] in America and finish the race.
[01:02:55.220 -> 01:02:56.520] Yeah, but that's one of those things.
[01:02:56.520 -> 01:03:02.100] It's like, you know, they're probably, this is one of those things where they
[01:03:02.100 -> 01:03:05.200] need to use this power unit through the test.
[01:03:07.300 -> 01:03:11.040] Probably I would have just fucking sent it. But at some point, if it's a catastrophic water failure, it's a fast leak.
[01:03:11.400 -> 01:03:14.240] The thing will grenade itself in an unpredictable manner.
[01:03:14.240 -> 01:03:16.300] So they're like, you know what, this thing's actually chalked.
[01:03:16.300 -> 01:03:19.600] We can see that you're losing losing water pressure rapidly.
[01:03:20.000 -> 01:03:21.640] Chiparka, it's not worth it.
[01:03:21.640 -> 01:03:22.200] Yeah, fair enough.
[01:03:23.800 -> 01:03:26.500] What other top retirements have we had?
[01:03:26.500 -> 01:03:31.500] Because I can see you've written this little note and I want you to go to waste.
[01:03:31.500 -> 01:03:35.420] Oh yeah, other retirements in the season.
[01:03:35.420 -> 01:03:39.060] Sainz has had six retirements, not necessarily all mechanical, some of those are mistakes.
[01:03:39.060 -> 01:03:43.380] Bottas five, Sunota five, Latifi and Albon four.
[01:03:43.380 -> 01:03:48.400] I'm sure there's a couple up there, but you know, signs, he's beat what he beached himself
[01:03:48.400 -> 01:03:50.120] a couple times.
[01:03:50.120 -> 01:03:53.960] He's had an engine in Austria.
[01:03:53.960 -> 01:03:56.240] I'm sure he's had a couple brain fade DNFs as well.
[01:03:56.240 -> 01:03:58.760] Yeah, we'll probably go through all this in more detail.
[01:03:58.760 -> 01:04:01.480] We'll do like a proper postseason review.
[01:04:01.480 -> 01:04:02.480] Yeah.
[01:04:02.480 -> 01:04:08.120] The blessing of the dark lord award. Yeah, the postseason award ceremony.
[01:04:08.120 -> 01:04:13.720] Yeah, and it real quick, if anybody's listening on this, we'll put a feeler out on Twitter
[01:04:13.720 -> 01:04:14.720] later today.
[01:04:14.720 -> 01:04:18.360] But if there's any specific episodes that you are like topics that you want us to break
[01:04:18.360 -> 01:04:21.640] down and talk about, we're going to put together some episodes where we go away and do some
[01:04:21.640 -> 01:04:27.360] research and you will get our takes on it and we can chat about and kind of relive it. So if there's anything, we'll put a thing
[01:04:27.360 -> 01:04:29.520] out on Twitter after this thing goes live.
[01:04:29.520 -> 01:04:33.400] And if I do it, anyone says Abu Dhabi 2021, you're getting blocked.
[01:04:33.400 -> 01:04:36.600] No, seriously, I went back and watched that because I'm working on my YouTube video for
[01:04:36.600 -> 01:04:45.160] the week. Abu Dhabi 2021 was fucking boring. Like it was everybody on a one stop.
[01:04:48.620 -> 01:04:53.340] Latifi crashes, the rest is history. It's not something that anybody wants to relive, honestly.
[01:04:54.680 -> 01:04:55.520] So.
[01:04:55.520 -> 01:04:56.360] True, true.
[01:04:56.360 -> 01:04:58.980] And speaking of Avidavi and Latifi crashing,
[01:05:00.200 -> 01:05:02.560] what was his retirement gift on lap 39?
[01:05:05.680 -> 01:05:06.180] Go on.
[01:05:06.800 -> 01:05:09.200] Him and Schumacher having their little synchronized spin,
[01:05:09.200 -> 01:05:11.600] which was beautiful in slow motion.
[01:05:11.600 -> 01:05:12.960] I just want to say.
[01:05:12.960 -> 01:05:13.600] That was dope.
[01:05:14.400 -> 01:05:16.960] But yeah, to be fair, I don't think we can blame Latifi for that one.
[01:05:16.960 -> 01:05:20.240] I think Mick just had a bit of brain fade, clipped Latifi into the corner.
[01:05:20.880 -> 01:05:23.200] Yeah, he wasn't expecting him to be going that slow.
[01:05:23.200 -> 01:05:26.000] I mean, you know, he's gauging it and he just kind of rolls in quite a bit too much speed,
[01:05:26.000 -> 01:05:32.000] loses a bit of front end and a little bit Daniel on Magnussen kind of feel to it.
[01:05:32.000 -> 01:05:35.000] Yeah, I like how they reviewed it and they just went no further action.
[01:05:35.000 -> 01:05:38.000] They were just like, I can't be fucking bothered to deal with these two anymore.
[01:05:38.000 -> 01:05:40.000] They're retiring at the end of this race.
[01:05:40.000 -> 01:05:42.000] Fuck it. Let them sort it out themselves.
[01:05:42.000 -> 01:05:45.160] Yeah, yeah. Just just real quick.
[01:05:46.520 -> 01:05:49.760] People in the lives we're talking about. So that's one thing I'm thinking about doing over on Twitch during the off season
[01:05:50.000 -> 01:05:54.280] is firing up some of the old historic races and doing a historic race watch along
[01:05:54.280 -> 01:05:55.680] where we all basically open up.
[01:05:57.560 -> 01:06:01.320] F1 TV pro queue up a race, watch it start to finish.
[01:06:01.480 -> 01:06:04.400] So to hold us over, I'm not going to do it on weekends, I'll probably do it like
[01:06:04.880 -> 01:06:08.720] an evening so people in the US can catch it, But we'll watch. There's been a couple of great
[01:06:08.720 -> 01:06:13.360] recommendations. Brazil, there's a couple of Brazil GPs that are excellent to watch,
[01:06:13.360 -> 01:06:21.920] maybe some classic Seb moments. So we'll do some, we'll do, I will relive Barcelona 2016,
[01:06:21.920 -> 01:06:25.680] my first race win. Yeah, here we go. Emotional.
[01:06:25.680 -> 01:06:27.600] 30 seconds, 30 seconds.
[01:06:27.600 -> 01:06:33.320] My first Formula 1 race, Barcelona 2012, the Cursed Grand Prix.
[01:06:33.320 -> 01:06:37.640] Maldonado wins and then their Williams garage burns down from a fuel bowser fire.
[01:06:37.640 -> 01:06:40.920] Yeah, man, that was serious.
[01:06:40.920 -> 01:06:41.920] That was crazy.
[01:06:41.920 -> 01:06:42.920] Yeah.
[01:06:42.920 -> 01:06:44.040] You were there for that, is that what you just said?
[01:06:44.040 -> 01:06:46.000] You were there for that? Yeah. Fucking hell, man.
[01:06:46.000 -> 01:06:48.000] We could do a co-watch along
[01:06:48.000 -> 01:06:50.000] for Crash Gate Baku
[01:06:50.000 -> 01:06:52.000] with the boys.
[01:06:52.000 -> 01:06:54.000] Yeah, we'll get the shirts made that say
[01:06:54.000 -> 01:06:56.000] I survived the Baku debrief.
[01:06:56.000 -> 01:06:58.000] Yeah, exactly.
[01:06:58.000 -> 01:07:00.000] We got anything else for the Abu Dhabi Grand Prix?
[01:07:00.000 -> 01:07:02.000] Just to close it up.
[01:07:02.000 -> 01:07:04.000] What do we got? Hamilton's retirement,
[01:07:04.000 -> 01:07:05.280] we spoke about that, didn't we?
[01:07:05.280 -> 01:07:07.920] Where did Vettel finish in the end?
[01:07:07.920 -> 01:07:08.760] Didn't he finish 10th?
[01:07:08.760 -> 01:07:10.000] Sebastian Vettel, P10.
[01:07:10.000 -> 01:07:14.080] So, if anybody saw it, there were some post-race procedures
[01:07:14.080 -> 01:07:17.180] where the top three go onto the grid and do donuts,
[01:07:17.180 -> 01:07:20.920] and they specifically made provisions for Sebastian Vettel
[01:07:20.920 -> 01:07:23.340] after he finished the race to pull his car onto the grid,
[01:07:23.340 -> 01:07:24.740] do some donuts on his own,
[01:07:24.740 -> 01:07:29.120] and be a part of the final ceremony of the race, which I thought was a beautiful touch.
[01:07:30.800 -> 01:07:35.840] Oh, Ross Braun is retired this year. So from working with the FIA.
[01:07:36.640 -> 01:07:40.320] Yes, but that was announced quite a while ago, wasn't it? I think they said at the end of the
[01:07:40.320 -> 01:07:43.600] year and I don't really think anyone really mentioned it really. They sort of said hello
[01:07:43.600 -> 01:07:47.600] to him on the grid and that was it really. Yeah cheers, cheers Ross. I didn't see any big
[01:07:47.600 -> 01:07:52.320] sort of posts about him or anything like that. He's a tall lad. I remember running into him,
[01:07:52.320 -> 01:07:58.160] like having a chat with him at Formula Student 2011 in the UK. I'm like that's Ross Braun.
[01:07:58.160 -> 01:08:02.160] I'd really like to work for you one day and he said nah you're fucking shit. You'll work for
[01:08:02.160 -> 01:08:05.280] Red Bull. You're mid, you're washed. Yeah.
[01:08:05.280 -> 01:08:05.920] Get out of here.
[01:08:07.520 -> 01:08:09.760] But yeah, that's super cool.
[01:08:09.760 -> 01:08:11.440] A lot of people are giving him a lot of flack saying,
[01:08:11.440 -> 01:08:14.160] oh, Ross said that the regulations would be better.
[01:08:14.160 -> 01:08:17.280] And I got into some shit fight over that, which I don't really want to talk about.
[01:08:17.280 -> 01:08:19.440] But realistically, Ross didn't say that.
[01:08:20.080 -> 01:08:22.080] So if you read, it's on my Twitter.
[01:08:22.080 -> 01:08:23.840] Yeah, he took one look at you.
[01:08:23.840 -> 01:08:27.400] Ross Braun took one look at you and said, you got no will knowledge.
[01:08:27.400 -> 01:08:28.400] No will.
[01:08:28.400 -> 01:08:30.680] No will, you're out.
[01:08:30.680 -> 01:08:31.680] Bloody yanks.
[01:08:31.680 -> 01:08:36.320] One of my favorite comments is, I'm sick and tired of seeing Americans talking about Formula
[01:08:36.320 -> 01:08:38.160] One and it's some dude with his fucking Honda Civic.
[01:08:38.160 -> 01:08:42.760] I'm like, bro, you don't want the smoke.
[01:08:42.760 -> 01:08:44.280] Shit Formula One engineer and I got sacked.
[01:08:44.280 -> 01:08:46.000] You do not want the smoke. Shit Formula 1 engineer and I got sacked. You do not want the smoke.
[01:08:46.000 -> 01:08:48.000] Jesus Christ. Listen to us middle aged old men
[01:08:48.000 -> 01:08:50.000] beefing people on the internet.
[01:08:50.000 -> 01:08:52.000] Oh lad.
[01:08:52.000 -> 01:08:54.000] I'll fucking chin you first.
[01:08:54.000 -> 01:08:56.000] You want some?
[01:08:56.000 -> 01:08:58.000] You want some? I'll give it ya.
[01:08:58.000 -> 01:09:00.000] I was gonna make a mention about
[01:09:00.000 -> 01:09:02.000] did Aston Martin
[01:09:02.000 -> 01:09:04.000] stuff up Vettel's strategy?
[01:09:04.000 -> 01:09:10.000] Ah, dude honestly I looked at it and it was the same kind of thing is what happened with
[01:09:10.000 -> 01:09:14.000] Paris. If it had gone slightly differently, said would have been in a lot better spot.
[01:09:14.000 -> 01:09:20.560] So looking at this. I don't think they fucked him like realistically if he had had a little
[01:09:20.560 -> 01:09:24.360] bit more pace early in the race and not been bunged up in traffic so much he would have
[01:09:24.360 -> 01:09:28.200] come out ahead of the bunch of cars and he would have finished ahead of
[01:09:28.200 -> 01:09:33.200] Ricardo potentially ahead of Lance. And it's just a matter of a little bit too much traffic
[01:09:33.200 -> 01:09:37.280] and not making the most out of the first stint because that's that's the boring part of the
[01:09:37.280 -> 01:09:42.080] one stop is if your first stint isn't gold, if you're going on to a harder tire for, you
[01:09:42.080 -> 01:09:46.040] know, two thirds or more of the race, what are you gonna do?
[01:09:46.040 -> 01:09:48.720] You can't just magic pace out of nothing, you know?
[01:09:49.600 -> 01:09:52.520] So, and especially when you can't, for example,
[01:09:52.520 -> 01:09:54.760] Leclerc and Verstappen had the luxury of being able
[01:09:54.760 -> 01:09:57.440] to lead and control the pace, whereas guys in the back
[01:09:58.360 -> 01:10:00.520] very much had to contest with traffic,
[01:10:00.520 -> 01:10:02.960] cars that they may have been faster than,
[01:10:02.960 -> 01:10:09.120] pitting into traffic on guys on dying tires. You're like, mate, I'm on fresh bags, let me through and they're like, sorry, and you're
[01:10:09.120 -> 01:10:14.720] in a slower car. So it's just the unfortunate. I don't think they fucked the strategy. It
[01:10:14.720 -> 01:10:20.800] was suboptimal in the end. But if he had had a slightly different race, I mean, to be fair,
[01:10:20.800 -> 01:10:27.280] to be fair. Lance stroll has been a demon on race starts.
[01:10:27.280 -> 01:10:30.600] Lance Stroll making up two on the race start.
[01:10:30.600 -> 01:10:34.840] And then realistically, Seb holding on to his position at the race start, making up
[01:10:34.840 -> 01:10:39.320] some progress when people are pitting early, and then just running into too much deg, getting
[01:10:39.320 -> 01:10:42.040] dropped too far back into traffic, being sliced suboptimal.
[01:10:42.040 -> 01:10:46.200] I mean, if you look at their gap on the track, they were within five, six seconds of each
[01:10:46.200 -> 01:10:47.680] other when they finished the race.
[01:10:47.680 -> 01:10:49.200] Let's check the time.
[01:10:49.200 -> 01:10:55.120] But yeah, I mean, it was unfortunate and I, I could, I know Seb wanted to have a better
[01:10:55.120 -> 01:10:57.160] final race than that, but.
[01:10:57.160 -> 01:10:58.160] I think he did well.
[01:10:58.160 -> 01:10:59.160] Yeah.
[01:10:59.160 -> 01:11:00.160] I mean, he finished.
[01:11:00.160 -> 01:11:02.680] The point finish in that car is probably quite admirable.
[01:11:02.680 -> 01:11:03.680] Yeah.
[01:11:03.680 -> 01:11:07.080] He finished seven, seven seconds behind.
[01:11:08.120 -> 01:11:09.720] Danny Rick finished in ninth,
[01:11:09.720 -> 01:11:11.220] points finished for him too.
[01:11:12.280 -> 01:11:15.560] Lance Stroh in eighth, so double points for Aston.
[01:11:15.560 -> 01:11:17.440] Go on lads, well done.
[01:11:17.440 -> 01:11:21.440] Esti Besti in P7, Norris in P6
[01:11:21.440 -> 01:11:23.560] and took the fastest lap as well.
[01:11:23.560 -> 01:11:26.000] Yeah, Norris banging in that fast lap at the end.
[01:11:26.000 -> 01:11:27.240] He's the only one as well, isn't he,
[01:11:27.240 -> 01:11:29.960] out of the top three teams that got a podium this year.
[01:11:30.960 -> 01:11:31.800] Ooh.
[01:11:33.000 -> 01:11:34.400] Not Imola.
[01:11:34.400 -> 01:11:35.220] Was it Imola?
[01:11:35.220 -> 01:11:36.060] No.
[01:11:36.060 -> 01:11:36.880] I don't even remember that, man.
[01:11:36.880 -> 01:11:38.720] That's freaking ancient history.
[01:11:38.720 -> 01:11:39.560] Yeah.
[01:11:41.440 -> 01:11:42.760] Yeah, I think Lando.
[01:11:44.000 -> 01:11:46.400] I think I might have been sleeping on him a little bit. He's had quite a good- I think Lando's sound. I think Lando, I think I might have been sleeping on him a little bit.
[01:11:46.400 -> 01:11:48.040] I think Lando's sound.
[01:11:48.040 -> 01:11:49.040] I think Lando's sound.
[01:11:49.040 -> 01:11:50.600] Quite a good season.
[01:11:50.600 -> 01:11:56.200] I'm just really hoping that Lando or Daniel realize that I'm also really into cameras
[01:11:56.200 -> 01:12:00.680] and they should definitely talk to Leica to give me a hook up on their rangefinder.
[01:12:00.680 -> 01:12:01.680] I did see that.
[01:12:01.680 -> 01:12:02.680] Digital Leicas.
[01:12:02.680 -> 01:12:05.200] Yes, I did because I got a Nikon D810.
[01:12:05.200 -> 01:12:11.520] Here we go. We're going into camera geekery. And I've had it for quite a while. And then I saw these
[01:12:11.520 -> 01:12:14.800] photography accounts they've done. And I looked and I saw the little red label and I was like,
[01:12:14.800 -> 01:12:22.960] no, yeah, of course, of course. I've got my M6 right there in the camera in the case, but
[01:12:22.960 -> 01:12:25.200] fuck me developing 35 millimeter film and then scanning it is such a pain in the camera in the case, but fuck me developing 35 millimeter film
[01:12:25.200 -> 01:12:27.240] and then scanning it is such a pain in the ass.
[01:12:27.240 -> 01:12:28.560] So I'm over it.
[01:12:28.560 -> 01:12:30.760] But I think that's the race.
[01:12:30.760 -> 01:12:33.600] Well, let's go back and round up the championship.
[01:12:33.600 -> 01:12:36.560] So drivers championship for Stappan 454,
[01:12:36.560 -> 01:12:39.480] Leclerc 308, Perez 305.
[01:12:39.480 -> 01:12:40.760] There's a big gap.
[01:12:40.760 -> 01:12:43.920] Big man, Russell, King George, 275,
[01:12:43.920 -> 01:12:47.160] ahead of Sainz 246. Mr. Consistent man, George two seven five ahead of signs. Two 46, Mr. Consistent
[01:12:47.160 -> 01:12:52.360] man. George has been consistent all season. I will concede Lewis has not been particularly
[01:12:52.360 -> 01:12:56.720] lucky this season. Like, you know, it's just not gone in his favor and that's, that's racing.
[01:12:56.720 -> 01:13:02.000] Sometimes I do not by any means think that Russell beating Hamilton this season has any
[01:13:02.000 -> 01:13:05.160] implication on skill level talent Lewis fading
[01:13:05.160 -> 01:13:09.960] I think Mercedes gonna be back next season and Lewis is gonna be fucking hungry. You're not done really well
[01:13:09.960 -> 01:13:13.540] No, he's done a lot better than the thought he would step exactly that big team
[01:13:14.280 -> 01:13:15.760] exactly, so
[01:13:15.760 -> 01:13:18.240] signs 246 Hamilton 240 Norris
[01:13:18.600 -> 01:13:26.000] 122 big men on 92 Alonzo 81 Bott Bottas, Ricardo only 37 points, tied with Danny Rick.
[01:13:26.000 -> 01:13:31.920] Kingmag 25, Gasman 23, Stroll 18, Schumacher 12, Snow to 12.
[01:13:31.920 -> 01:13:35.280] Joe only 6 points, but he's done an awesome job in that car.
[01:13:35.280 -> 01:13:42.360] Albon 4, Latifi 2, DeVries 2, and Hulkeberg 0 as he stood in for the first two races.
[01:13:42.360 -> 01:13:46.160] Yep, there you go.
[01:13:48.540 -> 01:13:49.800] Teams championship, this is a good one.
[01:13:52.600 -> 01:13:55.360] Red Bull Oracle Red Bull Racing, 7.59. Scuderia Ferrari, 5.54.
[01:13:55.360 -> 01:13:57.440] Mercedes, only 5.15.
[01:13:57.440 -> 01:14:00.160] Mercedes, you know, let's be-
[01:14:00.160 -> 01:14:03.240] They came in 19 behind into Abu Dhabi,
[01:14:03.240 -> 01:14:05.440] but with that retirement it didn't
[01:14:07.280 -> 01:14:10.880] Yeah, it didn't really work out No, and unless the ferraris both took each other out. They weren't going to beat them in that
[01:14:10.880 -> 01:14:14.340] Anyway, alpine 173 mclaren 159
[01:14:15.760 -> 01:14:19.520] Alfa romeo 55 aston martin 55 has 37
[01:14:20.560 -> 01:14:25.600] Alpha tower 35 williams 8 i'm a little bit disappointed in AlphaTauri.
[01:14:25.600 -> 01:14:32.000] You want to hear something? Go on. I won't go into it too in-depth because this will be a YouTube video I do in the offseason.
[01:14:32.000 -> 01:14:33.200] Ooh, let's go.
[01:14:33.200 -> 01:14:39.200] So, out of the 10 championship positions, how many do you think I got right?
[01:14:39.200 -> 01:14:42.600] Print in like my preseason prediction.
[01:14:42.600 -> 01:14:45.100] None of them. 7 out of 10. No, no shot dude. Print in like my preseason prediction.
[01:14:49.800 -> 01:14:54.800] None of them 7 out of 10. No, no shot dude. No way. I know will Dan Dan engine mode.
[01:14:54.800 -> 01:14:58.800] Wheel knowledge. Good boy 11 fucking hell man.
[01:14:58.800 -> 01:15:00.800] I thought my prediction on a.
[01:15:00.800 -> 01:15:03.800] What was it? The Budapest Grand Prix that we did with the last
[01:15:03.800 -> 01:15:05.360] lap where I predicted the top five.
[01:15:05.360 -> 01:15:06.500] I thought that was pretty sick,
[01:15:06.500 -> 01:15:09.360] but seven out of 10 over a whole season,
[01:15:09.360 -> 01:15:11.000] that's just wheel knowledge, that can't be luck.
[01:15:11.000 -> 01:15:13.040] Exactly, see?
[01:15:13.040 -> 01:15:14.560] So you- I'm a dark horse.
[01:15:14.560 -> 01:15:16.060] Did you get Mercedes right?
[01:15:16.060 -> 01:15:18.080] Yeah, I got top three all correct.
[01:15:18.080 -> 01:15:19.080] Oh my God.
[01:15:19.080 -> 01:15:21.680] So you cursed Mercedes, you fuck.
[01:15:21.680 -> 01:15:23.280] Yeah, I cursed, so I'll go for it.
[01:15:23.280 -> 01:15:24.640] I got the top three right.
[01:15:25.600 -> 01:15:27.360] I didn't have Alpine in fourth.
[01:15:27.360 -> 01:15:30.600] I had McLaren in fifth.
[01:15:30.600 -> 01:15:35.520] I had, and then I think I had, what was it?
[01:15:35.520 -> 01:15:38.080] Haas and Williams in the right places, and then there was some others.
[01:15:38.080 -> 01:15:40.080] I think Alfa Romeo I got in the right place.
[01:15:40.080 -> 01:15:41.080] Yeah.
[01:15:41.080 -> 01:15:43.000] But yeah, no, top three and McLaren.
[01:15:43.000 -> 01:15:51.680] I know that off the top of my head I I got that right That's freaking because I remember saying what else begins with M for McLaren. I said mid I'll put in fifth
[01:15:52.480 -> 01:15:57.000] Midler and I hope and realistically like to be fair
[01:15:58.160 -> 01:16:02.800] Ross Braun did say that one of the midfield teams could be competing for podiums and
[01:16:03.560 -> 01:16:06.100] Unfortunately, the midfield team that was competing for podiums. And unfortunately, the midfield team that was competing for
[01:16:06.100 -> 01:16:07.560] podiums this year was Mercedes.
[01:16:07.560 -> 01:16:10.240] I think they've now towards the end of the season, they've bridged the gap.
[01:16:10.600 -> 01:16:13.200] Um, they've got a lot more interested about the W 13, hopefully
[01:16:13.200 -> 01:16:14.820] that transfers into the W 14.
[01:16:14.820 -> 01:16:19.280] So we can see a three-way battle, but we really, really, really need to see Al
[01:16:19.280 -> 01:16:22.000] Paine and McLaren, um, bridging that gap.
[01:16:22.800 -> 01:16:24.960] Uh, Williams, hopefully making some improvements.
[01:16:22.000 -> 01:16:22.700] and bridging that gap.
[01:16:24.900 -> 01:16:25.300] And Williams hopefully making some improvements.
[01:16:28.000 -> 01:16:28.300] They'll have two sound drivers,
[01:16:29.800 -> 01:16:29.900] Albon's solid,
[01:16:31.900 -> 01:16:32.400] and now he'll have a comparison in DeVries, hopefully.
[01:16:33.100 -> 01:16:34.800] Let's see, Alphatauri,
[01:16:34.900 -> 01:16:36.800] not DeVries,
[01:16:37.600 -> 01:16:38.100] Sargent.
[01:16:38.700 -> 01:16:40.600] I was thinking Alphatauri ahead of time,
[01:16:40.900 -> 01:16:41.400] but yeah,
[01:16:41.400 -> 01:16:42.600] I hope they figure that out.
[01:16:43.700 -> 01:16:44.600] Super brain far.
[01:16:44.600 -> 01:16:45.080] I can't keep up with all these old young drivers coming back. No. But yeah, I hope they figure that out. Super brain fart, I can't keep up
[01:16:45.080 -> 01:16:47.960] with all these old young drivers coming back.
[01:16:47.960 -> 01:16:53.960] No. But yeah, so there you go. Basically, that was Abu Dhabi. That was the season.
[01:16:53.960 -> 01:16:59.440] Bit of a mid race, honestly. It was just an anticlimax.
[01:16:59.440 -> 01:17:01.960] Not the right circuit to have a season ender on.
[01:17:01.960 -> 01:17:04.000] Brazil, Brazil final season.
[01:17:04.000 -> 01:17:06.160] They paid all the money so they get to be a season ender on. Brazil, Brazil, final season. They paid all the money.
[01:17:06.160 -> 01:17:07.240] So they get to be at the end.
[01:17:07.600 -> 01:17:09.660] They need Brazil as a final race this season.
[01:17:10.060 -> 01:17:11.520] Oh, that's such a good racetrack.
[01:17:11.640 -> 01:17:11.960] Correct.
[01:17:11.960 -> 01:17:12.480] Chaos, man.
[01:17:12.480 -> 01:17:13.520] Anything can happen.
[01:17:13.760 -> 01:17:16.880] Timo Glock can happen, you know, correct.
[01:17:17.400 -> 01:17:17.640] Yep.
[01:17:17.680 -> 01:17:17.920] Yeah.
[01:17:17.960 -> 01:17:20.580] So this is that part of the episode.
[01:17:20.580 -> 01:17:21.120] Is it time?
[01:17:21.800 -> 01:17:22.500] Oh yeah.
[01:17:22.500 -> 01:17:32.720] Go on.
[01:17:38.640 -> 01:17:43.960] Fraud Watch. What is Fraud Watch Dan? Fraud Watch is where we pick something bad at a weekend and we stick them on Fraud Watch and basically say sort it
[01:17:43.960 -> 01:17:45.700] out. Do we ever do anything with people that have been on Fraud Watch and basically say, sort it out.
[01:17:46.960 -> 01:17:47.940] Do we ever do anything with people that have been on Fraud Watch?
[01:17:47.940 -> 01:17:48.780] Like we should actually-
[01:17:48.780 -> 01:17:49.600] We're not keeping a tally.
[01:17:49.600 -> 01:17:51.400] Maybe next season we'll keep a tally.
[01:17:51.400 -> 01:17:53.600] I think next season what we need to do is
[01:17:53.600 -> 01:17:56.000] every week we add somebody to Fraud Watch
[01:17:56.000 -> 01:17:59.000] and we determine if they're on the list or off the list
[01:17:59.000 -> 01:18:01.480] and see who stays on Fraud Watch the longest.
[01:18:01.480 -> 01:18:03.920] And in order to be removed from Fraud Watch
[01:18:03.920 -> 01:18:05.120] maybe they need to at least be
[01:18:05.120 -> 01:18:09.440] like semi-nominated for the next segment of the show they maybe don't have to make it but they
[01:18:09.440 -> 01:18:13.920] have to at least be a nominee you know they have to do a good thing maybe they have to go they have
[01:18:13.920 -> 01:18:21.680] to go on like uh five race probation oh well we'll come up with a system so we'll get something a
[01:18:21.680 -> 01:18:25.680] segment to really get people invested in the time history of
[01:18:25.680 -> 01:18:34.080] the Fraud Watch but maybe a fraud league table oh the guys the suggestions are great um but
[01:18:35.120 -> 01:18:41.520] why don't you tell us who your nomination is for Fraud Watch this week? Yeah so I had two
[01:18:42.080 -> 01:18:45.420] so the first one that didn't make the cut was gonna be the sausage curbs
[01:18:45.800 -> 01:18:50.040] Yeah, but after seeing the end of race footage of Mick Schumacher doing doughnuts
[01:18:50.040 -> 01:18:53.840] I'm giving it to Haas for him for them telling him to stop doing it.
[01:18:53.840 -> 01:19:00.560] I owe the chief engineer came on the radio. He's like we need to save the engine don't do doughnuts and he's like
[01:19:01.080 -> 01:19:07.000] Love you too. Yeah, I just let my guy spin them up is what I'm saying.
[01:19:07.000 -> 01:19:09.000] Justice for Mick Schumacher's donuts.
[01:19:09.000 -> 01:19:11.000] Yeah, I would have told him mate.
[01:19:11.000 -> 01:19:13.000] Do one.
[01:19:13.000 -> 01:19:15.000] Cause I'm gonna do this donut bro.
[01:19:15.000 -> 01:19:18.000] Oh man.
[01:19:18.000 -> 01:19:20.000] You know, I've got on my list this week.
[01:19:20.000 -> 01:19:22.000] I don't, but you're gonna tell me.
[01:19:22.000 -> 01:19:27.240] I've got Renault, the engine manufacturer on my list this week.
[01:19:27.240 -> 01:19:34.400] Like they finally wield some performance into their car and they keep fucking losing it
[01:19:34.400 -> 01:19:37.200] when they've got a good shot at solid points.
[01:19:37.200 -> 01:19:41.240] Like I know Akon's only on two.
[01:19:41.240 -> 01:19:46.800] Alonzo on five and it's just not all those are engine, but I feel like most of them are.
[01:19:46.800 -> 01:19:47.880] It's bad, man.
[01:19:47.880 -> 01:19:52.960] Like they've got like, no, this, this makes me like, thank fuck.
[01:19:52.960 -> 01:19:54.240] They rebranded it to Alpine.
[01:19:54.240 -> 01:19:58.520] Cause nobody knows what that is, especially not Americans, but like who the, who wants
[01:19:58.520 -> 01:20:02.060] to buy a Reno after seeing their engines, like at least they're fast now, at least they're
[01:20:02.060 -> 01:20:03.060] fast now.
[01:20:03.060 -> 01:20:09.200] Fast V6 is a good V6, but they can i here's what i hope i hope they improve the reliability because i would like
[01:20:09.200 -> 01:20:17.920] to see uh gas man and arkhan getting to drive each other into the wall before the engine explodes
[01:20:17.920 -> 01:20:25.840] yeah well it's only taken eight years of the hybrid era. Yeah, eventually maybe the 9th 9th year next year.
[01:20:25.840 -> 01:20:27.160] Maybe they'll finally crack it.
[01:20:27.440 -> 01:20:28.760] 9th times a charm.
[01:20:28.800 -> 01:20:29.480] Doubt.
[01:20:30.280 -> 01:20:30.880] Doubt.
[01:20:31.640 -> 01:20:33.680] Uh, right, we've got a new.
[01:20:33.680 -> 01:20:34.840] We got a new bumper this week.
[01:20:34.840 -> 01:20:35.800] Thank you, Michael.
[01:20:35.800 -> 01:20:36.880] You absolute legend.
[01:20:36.880 -> 01:20:37.760] We love you, Michael Kiss,
[01:20:37.760 -> 01:20:38.960] but up my goal.
[01:20:39.200 -> 01:20:39.960] Ready for this one?
[01:20:40.520 -> 01:20:40.960] Go.
[01:20:42.760 -> 01:20:44.840] Oh, you did lose a good boy.
[01:20:44.840 -> 01:20:45.800] I am. I'm a good boy? I am.
[01:20:45.800 -> 01:20:47.440] I'm a good boy.
[01:20:47.440 -> 01:20:53.280] This is Engine Mode Good Boy, which is basically somebody trying to gaslight Dan, calling him,
[01:20:53.280 -> 01:20:54.280] oh, look who it is.
[01:20:54.280 -> 01:20:55.280] It's Engine Mode Good Boy.
[01:20:55.280 -> 01:20:59.320] But we've turned it into something positive because this is a pretty uplifting podcast.
[01:20:59.320 -> 01:21:04.880] So who are we nominating for Engine Mode Good Boy this week, Dan?
[01:21:04.880 -> 01:21:11.920] Listen, Engine Mode Good boy this week right Norbert Vettel all the footage of him absolutely
[01:21:11.920 -> 01:21:20.400] vibing in the Aston Martin garage Seb's dad just I was all in on Seb's dad this weekend
[01:21:20.400 -> 01:21:26.760] I what a legend. He's a dude he's a a super dude. He's just like, you don't see
[01:21:26.760 -> 01:21:31.280] too much of him. He doesn't really make himself seen. He's but he's around a lot. He's around
[01:21:31.280 -> 01:21:36.880] a lot. He I'm pretty sure he like, like, like a lot of the races, he'll stay in a camp or
[01:21:36.880 -> 01:21:40.720] something somewhere just kind of be like off the grid, just chilling out. What a dude.
[01:21:40.720 -> 01:21:52.800] Yeah, what a dude. So that was, that was nice to see him and Seb vibing at his last race weekend. I struggled for an engine mode good boy this this week honestly.
[01:21:54.640 -> 01:22:00.000] I really struggled for an engine mode good boy like I wanted to find somebody that did something
[01:22:01.200 -> 01:22:07.700] exceptional this week and I don't really feel like I found that, which is kind of frustrating because I've been racking
[01:22:07.700 -> 01:22:08.940] my brain over it.
[01:22:08.940 -> 01:22:12.200] If anybody's in the live stream, I need some suggestions for an engine mode.
[01:22:12.200 -> 01:22:15.400] Good boy, because we're struggling.
[01:22:15.400 -> 01:22:20.460] I mean, let's let's put this list.
[01:22:20.460 -> 01:22:21.460] Let's look up.
[01:22:21.460 -> 01:22:22.460] Let's look up.
[01:22:22.460 -> 01:22:24.040] Thank you, Hennessey.
[01:22:24.040 -> 01:22:26.040] But Ferrari did a really good
[01:22:26.040 -> 01:22:32.800] job this weekend on the strategy. They they they called it right. I mean, they they covered.
[01:22:32.800 -> 01:22:38.000] I mean, fine, they covered Red Bull, but they were prepared to cover and they basically
[01:22:38.000 -> 01:22:45.560] yeah signs on the two stop. Leclerc on the one stop, and they just didn't have the pace this weekend.
[01:22:45.560 -> 01:22:46.760] Max kind of managed it,
[01:22:46.760 -> 01:22:50.000] but they did a decent job, honestly.
[01:22:50.000 -> 01:22:53.000] And it sucks, because I...
[01:22:54.000 -> 01:22:54.840] You know what I mean?
[01:22:54.840 -> 01:22:56.760] That's fair, fair award.
[01:22:56.760 -> 01:22:58.880] But at the same time, it's like,
[01:23:00.840 -> 01:23:01.960] I have to take a step back,
[01:23:01.960 -> 01:23:04.400] because this whole season we've been trash talking
[01:23:04.400 -> 01:23:05.760] some of the operational decisions
[01:23:05.760 -> 01:23:07.520] They've made but at the same time
[01:23:07.520 -> 01:23:09.520] There are people
[01:23:09.520 -> 01:23:11.520] Behind that, you know and it sucks
[01:23:11.960 -> 01:23:16.760] You know cuz that that could be could have been me or could have been you know you it's like, um, you know
[01:23:16.760 -> 01:23:18.880] Like, you know, it or anybody that works in it could be anybody
[01:23:18.880 -> 01:23:23.460] It's like nobody would have put me in any position of authority like that. Okay, fine
[01:23:23.460 -> 01:23:26.560] Well, it wasn't gonna be me, cause I fucking removed myself from that equation.
[01:23:26.560 -> 01:23:28.200] I was like, what, spend the rest of my life
[01:23:28.200 -> 01:23:30.000] traveling to the racing circuits
[01:23:30.000 -> 01:23:33.320] to be a clipboard driver babysitter,
[01:23:33.320 -> 01:23:35.200] tire pressure monitor, fuck that.
[01:23:35.200 -> 01:23:38.740] Oh, could you tell me how it felt during that run?
[01:23:41.320 -> 01:23:44.400] Yeah, the car has too much flop in it.
[01:23:44.400 -> 01:23:46.360] We could do less flop. Yeah, the car has too much flop in it. We could do less flop.
[01:23:46.360 -> 01:23:53.680] Yeah, anyway, I'm not very happy with your stopping procedures.
[01:23:53.680 -> 01:23:57.520] You fucking dork.
[01:23:57.520 -> 01:24:00.400] But anyway, question, let's um, but yeah, that's my engine.
[01:24:00.400 -> 01:24:01.400] My good boy.
[01:24:01.400 -> 01:24:05.440] Ferrari did a good job and I, I think hopefully they don't throw the baby out
[01:24:05.440 -> 01:24:07.160] with the bathwater kind of situation.
[01:24:07.160 -> 01:24:09.040] Hopefully Ferrari come back next season,
[01:24:09.040 -> 01:24:11.080] they have a strong car again.
[01:24:11.080 -> 01:24:13.120] They iron out the kinks operationally,
[01:24:14.960 -> 01:24:17.000] and they have a better structure.
[01:24:17.000 -> 01:24:19.760] Mercedes W14, it's gonna be a weapon.
[01:24:19.760 -> 01:24:22.440] They're gonna be challenging for the championship win.
[01:24:23.400 -> 01:24:25.920] And maybe we'll see McLaren or Alpine take the jump up.
[01:24:26.720 -> 01:24:31.600] Are you? Oh sorry I'm just laughing, the break can just see me laughing on my webcam. Someone in
[01:24:31.600 -> 01:24:37.120] the chat has just reminded me that I need to give a shout out to the moment that Charles,
[01:24:37.120 -> 01:24:40.640] when he was talking on the radio thanking the team at the end of the race, he accidentally
[01:24:40.640 -> 01:24:47.840] hit the drinks button and nearly waterboarded himself.
[01:24:51.840 -> 01:24:54.480] Oh, I heard about that. Somebody was like, oh, he sneezed. It was, um, it was, it was glitz. It was Sarah. She was like, oh, he sneezed on the radio. It's like, no,
[01:24:54.480 -> 01:25:01.360] he was waterboarding himself. Iconic. Oh, some, uh, Rory says that he would see that,
[01:25:01.360 -> 01:25:07.100] but not to rated his Ferrari season 7.5 out of 10. Mate, you had a championship winner.
[01:25:07.100 -> 01:25:12.760] You guys were probably lost out on the regs change.
[01:25:12.760 -> 01:25:14.560] That's a five out of 10 season.
[01:25:14.560 -> 01:25:15.560] Sorry, mate.
[01:25:15.560 -> 01:25:21.400] No, I but the eternal optimist and he'll be a better off as a result of the optimism.
[01:25:21.400 -> 01:25:24.600] But why don't we why don't we wrap this episode here?
[01:25:24.600 -> 01:25:25.000] We're going to call it a night. as a result of the optimism. But why don't we wrap this episode here?
[01:25:25.000 -> 01:25:26.480] We're gonna call it a night.
[01:25:26.480 -> 01:25:30.200] We've got the Red Bull Racing Show on in Milton Keynes
[01:25:30.200 -> 01:25:32.680] on the 10th of this month.
[01:25:32.680 -> 01:25:34.360] Dan and I will be there.
[01:25:34.360 -> 01:25:35.320] We might have to grab a beer
[01:25:35.320 -> 01:25:38.440] at the old BrewDog afterwards or something, hey?
[01:25:38.440 -> 01:25:39.280] Hey.
[01:25:39.280 -> 01:25:42.480] If anybody wants to join us, we'll see you there.
[01:25:42.480 -> 01:25:45.640] But I think with that, we've got some episodes.
[01:25:45.640 -> 01:25:48.120] We'll do a couple more episodes this year.
[01:25:48.120 -> 01:25:50.740] We'll probably take a break into December, early January,
[01:25:50.740 -> 01:25:52.640] come back with some more stuff,
[01:25:52.640 -> 01:25:54.680] come back with a little bit of a structure.
[01:25:56.120 -> 01:25:59.120] Some more investment for the season
[01:25:59.120 -> 01:26:00.360] and do some more cool stuff
[01:26:00.360 -> 01:26:03.200] and we'll find a couple of guests and everything else.
[01:26:03.200 -> 01:26:05.400] Yeah, by the end of next year, we're gonna blag our way onto the grid. Yeah, it's gonna happen, but we'll find a couple of guests and everything else. So yeah, we're going to by the end of next year, we're going to
[01:26:05.400 -> 01:26:06.480] black our way onto the grid.
[01:26:07.120 -> 01:26:08.200] Yeah, it's going to happen.
[01:26:08.200 -> 01:26:08.840] We'll get there.
[01:26:08.920 -> 01:26:12.400] Um, we've both got some stuff we'll be working on over the winter on that.
[01:26:12.400 -> 01:26:14.100] You, you maybe have a look at some more YouTube.
[01:26:14.100 -> 01:26:17.640] I'm definitely gonna be cranking out a couple more YouTubes on break F1 on YouTube.
[01:26:18.320 -> 01:26:20.680] Um, keep in touch with us on Twitter.
[01:26:21.040 -> 01:26:21.920] Uh, Instagram.
[01:26:22.200 -> 01:26:23.940] Well, um, we'll keep vibing thriving.
[01:26:23.940 -> 01:26:25.000] I'll keep pushing out some data
[01:26:25.000 -> 01:26:31.620] analysis and we'll hopefully have an episode out for you guys next week and maybe somebody
[01:26:31.620 -> 01:26:35.000] helping us pay for our TikToks to get edited.
[01:26:35.000 -> 01:26:36.000] Yeah, maybe.
[01:26:36.000 -> 01:26:37.000] Let's go.
[01:26:37.000 -> 01:26:40.000] Anyway, enjoy your off seasons, basically.
[01:26:40.000 -> 01:26:41.000] Enjoy your off seasons.
[01:26:41.000 -> 01:26:42.000] We'll still be here.
[01:26:42.000 -> 01:26:43.000] We'll be here.
[01:26:43.000 -> 01:26:46.200] Enjoy your off season and fuck off still be here. We'll be here. Enjoy your off season and fuck
[01:26:46.200 -> 01:26:54.080] off. Yeah. See you guys later.
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