Podcast: EngineBraking
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The boys return after a week off to talk all things Brazil and Dan's new freshly shaved look
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# **2022 Formula One Brazilian Grand Prix Race Summary**
Welcome to the penultimate race of the 2022 Formula One season, the Brazilian Grand Prix! This episode delves into the thrilling events that unfolded at the Interlagos Circuit, including the intense qualifying session, the drama-filled sprint race, and the chaotic main event.
## **Qualifying:**
* Kevin Magnussen surprisingly secured pole position for Haas, capitalizing on track conditions and strategic tire choices.
* George Russell took second place, followed by Lewis Hamilton, Sergio Perez, and Charles Leclerc.
* Ferrari struggled to find pace, with Carlos Sainz Jr. and Charles Leclerc qualifying outside the top 10.
## **Sprint Race:**
* Magnussen maintained his lead at the start, but faced pressure from Russell and Verstappen.
* A collision between Fernando Alonso and Lance Stroll resulted in Alonso losing his front wing, while Stroll received a penalty.
* Esteban Ocon's Alpine suffered a mechanical issue and caught fire after the race, causing a red flag.
## **Main Race:**
* Mercedes showed impressive pace, with Russell and Hamilton battling for the lead.
* Verstappen faced difficulties with his medium tires and fell down the order.
* Magnussen dropped down the field, struggling to maintain his early advantage.
* Russell eventually secured his maiden Formula One victory, followed by Hamilton and Carlos Sainz Jr.
* Verstappen recovered to finish sixth, behind Sergio Perez and Lando Norris.
## **Controversies and Highlights:**
* The incident between Alonso and Stroll sparked debates about aggressive driving and the need for stricter penalties.
* Mercedes' strong performance raised questions about the legality of their car, leading to discussions about potential rule changes.
* Russell's emotional reaction to his first win was a heartwarming moment, showcasing the passion and dedication of Formula One drivers.
## **Overall Takeaways:**
* Mercedes emerged as a serious contender for the 2023 season, with their car showing significant improvements.
* Ferrari faced challenges in Brazil, highlighting the need for further development and strategy adjustments.
* Magnussen's pole position and strong start demonstrated the potential of the Haas team and the unpredictability of Formula One.
* The race provided exciting battles and dramatic moments, solidifying its reputation as one of the most captivating races on the calendar.
**Remember to catch the final race of the 2022 season in Abu Dhabi, where the championship titles will be decided!** **Race Summary:**
* The Brazilian Grand Prix saw a thrilling race with several incidents and strategic decisions.
* Kevin Magnussen started from the pit lane after changing his front and rear wings.
* Daniel Ricciardo received a three-grid place penalty for causing a collision with Magnussen.
* George Russell had a chaotic race, colliding with other drivers and experiencing technical issues.
* Lewis Hamilton and Max Verstappen collided at the start, resulting in a five-second penalty for Verstappen.
* Charles Leclerc and Lando Norris also collided, with Leclerc suffering significant damage.
* The race featured a virtual safety car and a full safety car period due to incidents.
* Sergio Perez fell back in the final stint after pitting for medium tires.
* Yuki Tsunoda was forgotten by the automated system and was allowed to unlap himself.
* Russell and Hamilton finished first and second, respectively, while Sainz held onto third place.
* Leclerc requested to pass Sainz for championship points, but Ferrari prioritized the Constructors' Championship.
* Perez and Leclerc are tied for second place in the Drivers' Championship heading into the final race in Abu Dhabi.
* Verstappen refused to give up his position to Perez despite team orders, causing tension between the teammates.
**Key Insights and Perspectives:**
* The race highlighted the importance of strategy and tire management in Formula One.
* The collision between Hamilton and Verstappen sparked discussions about racing etiquette and the need for clearer rules.
* The incident involving Tsunoda raised questions about the effectiveness of the automated systems used in Formula One.
* The battle between Perez and Leclerc for second place in the Drivers' Championship added an extra layer of excitement to the race.
* Verstappen's refusal to follow team orders has created a rift between him and Perez, potentially affecting their relationship in the future.
**Controversies and Notable Moments:**
* The collision between Hamilton and Verstappen was a major talking point, with fans and experts debating who was at fault.
* Verstappen's refusal to follow team orders and give up his position to Perez was a controversial decision that has drawn criticism from some quarters.
* The incident involving Tsunoda and the automated system highlighted the need for improved technology in Formula One.
**Overall Takeaway:**
The Brazilian Grand Prix was a thrilling and unpredictable race that kept fans on the edge of their seats. The strategic decisions, incidents, and controversies added to the excitement, making it a memorable race in the 2022 Formula One season. # Episode 10: Brazil Debrief
**Introduction:**
- The hosts, Dan and Matt, return after a week off to discuss the Brazilian Grand Prix and Dan's newly shaved look.
- They encourage listeners to donate to the GoFundMe campaign for the shave-off.
**Main Discussion:**
1. **The Implosion of Red Bull:**
- The hosts discuss the dramatic events at Red Bull during the race, including Sergio Perez's alleged deliberate spin in Q3 and the subsequent fallout between Perez and Max Verstappen.
- They analyze the data and speculate on whether Perez intentionally crashed, ultimately concluding that it's impossible to say for sure without more information.
- They express disappointment in the controversy, considering the race was essentially meaningless in terms of the championship standings.
2. **The Fraud Watch:**
- Dan nominates the FIA for Fraud Watch due to their error in forgetting Yuki Tsunoda during the safety car unlapping procedure.
- Matt nominates the entire Red Bull team for Fraud Watch, expressing concern about how they will handle the situation between Perez and Verstappen.
3. **Engine Mode Good Boy Award:**
- Dan awards the Engine Mode Good Boy Award to Kevin Magnussen for his emotional celebration after securing pole position for Haas.
- Matt praises the Mercedes Twitter admin for their witty response to Dan's tweet about the data analysis controversy.
4. **Plans for Future Episodes:**
- The hosts announce that they will take a short break around Christmas but plan to continue producing episodes, including scripted episodes with specific topics and guest appearances.
- They also express their desire to do a live episode from Dan's living room before the end of the year.
**Conclusion:**
The hosts wrap up the episode by thanking the listeners for their support and encouraging them to have a great night.
**Additional Points:**
- The hosts mention that they will be analyzing the data and controversy surrounding Perez's alleged spin in more detail in a YouTube video.
- They speculate that the 2023 season will be filled with drama and controversy, especially if Mercedes is competitive.
- They joke about starting a new series called "Keeping Up With the Bulls" to chronicle the drama within the Red Bull team.
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[01:57.840 -> 02:01.040] You're listening to the most fraudulent f1 podcast
[02:01.600 -> 02:06.000] With dan aka engine mode 11. I secretly moonlight as
[02:06.240 -> 02:07.400] Marco race weekends.
[02:07.680 -> 02:09.240] And Blake, a.k.a.
[02:09.240 -> 02:11.240] Brake echo chambers of farts
[02:11.240 -> 02:12.880] and idiots on Twitter after races.
[02:12.920 -> 02:14.760] It's the engine breaking F1
[02:14.760 -> 02:15.760] podcast.
[02:19.600 -> 02:20.920] Oh, look who it is, it's
[02:21.280 -> 02:22.360] engine mode zero.
[02:23.440 -> 02:24.360] This is where we start.
[02:24.400 -> 02:25.720] This is where we start the podcast now.
[02:25.720 -> 02:26.640] So welcome.
[02:26.640 -> 02:27.280] Welcome back.
[02:27.440 -> 02:28.640] We just had a little shave.
[02:29.080 -> 02:30.840] Dan is for anybody on audio,
[02:30.840 -> 02:31.840] not listening on YouTube
[02:31.840 -> 02:33.680] or not watching live on Twitch at Twitch.tv
[02:33.680 -> 02:35.160] front slash break with three R's.
[02:36.200 -> 02:38.600] Dan has no beard left and it's gone.
[02:39.160 -> 02:39.760] It's gone.
[02:39.840 -> 02:40.400] It's gone.
[02:40.880 -> 02:42.960] Drinking that celebratory monster.
[02:43.160 -> 02:44.840] Even drinking the drink feels weird.
[02:46.560 -> 02:49.680] Well, well done, Mercedes. Well, congratulations to Mercedes on their first win of 22.
[02:49.680 -> 02:51.280] They're gonna be back for 23.
[02:51.280 -> 02:53.360] That is without a doubt, and it was never really in question.
[02:53.360 -> 02:57.280] It was just a matter of when and it's happened.
[02:57.280 -> 03:01.760] So why don't we get in to the Brazilian Grand Prix?
[03:01.760 -> 03:06.000] This is the penultimate race of the season and it's always a banger.
[03:06.000 -> 03:08.000] Is it not? Is it not?
[03:08.000 -> 03:10.000] Yeah, like Brazil
[03:10.000 -> 03:12.000] is probably the only track where
[03:12.000 -> 03:14.000] I think the sprint race is decent.
[03:14.000 -> 03:16.000] It was good.
[03:16.000 -> 03:18.000] Or the sprint, whatever we're calling it
[03:18.000 -> 03:20.000] these days. Yeah, it's not a race
[03:20.000 -> 03:22.000] because you didn't shave your beard on Saturday, that's for sure.
[03:22.000 -> 03:24.000] No, but I didn't get away with it Sunday, did I?
[03:24.000 -> 03:28.280] But yeah, it's the only race where I think the sprint works.
[03:29.040 -> 03:33.240] Yeah, because normally I, I don't really, I'm not a fan of the sprint.
[03:33.600 -> 03:35.520] Um, but no, it was good.
[03:35.680 -> 03:38.120] So yeah, I don't, I don't hate the sprint.
[03:38.120 -> 03:39.000] I don't love it either.
[03:39.000 -> 03:44.520] The format needs some love, but I do like the idea of the idea of the sprint that
[03:44.520 -> 03:45.660] you have something happening
[03:45.660 -> 03:49.200] every day of the week. Yes, the people that can only follow on the weekends because they're
[03:49.200 -> 03:54.360] busy having a job during Friday can't watch, you know, that decisive section, which is
[03:54.360 -> 03:58.000] the qualifying, which sucks a bit, but at the same time, imagine like when I was at
[03:58.000 -> 04:02.400] the track Friday was like, what do I do on Friday? You just like, there's just cars running
[04:02.400 -> 04:08.880] around the track or at least in the sprint,'s qualifying there's a sprint race and then there's the race on Sunday. There's three
[04:08.880 -> 04:14.280] days of action and uh I don't know I'm not I'm not not into it but I think it needs a
[04:14.280 -> 04:19.520] bit of love. But yeah I don't know if I don't like it because it's new and I'm afraid of
[04:19.520 -> 04:33.880] new things. Yeah like shaving your beard off. Yeah, I've just realized as well. I've got a chunk left on this side. I know you want to get real quick. He's actually shaving it right now.
[04:33.880 -> 04:38.840] He's muted his microphone that there we go. There you go. Sorry. Nailed it. Nailed it.
[04:38.840 -> 04:42.520] Nailed it. So yeah, I don't know. I think the sprint could do some work, but I think
[04:42.520 -> 04:46.800] we'll probably talk about that in the offseason because also they're talking about changing qualifying at a couple
[04:46.800 -> 04:51.760] of races next year as well, I believe. Using the full, all the compounds. Is that next
[04:51.760 -> 04:52.760] season?
[04:52.760 -> 05:00.080] Yes. Yeah. I forgot about that. So Q1 hards. Yeah. Q2 medium. Q3 hards.
[05:00.080 -> 05:02.080] Me-gyms. Sorry. Me-gyms.
[05:02.080 -> 05:03.080] Sorry. Yeah.
[05:03.080 -> 05:04.080] Me-gyms. Not mediums.
[05:04.080 -> 05:05.620] Now my beard's gone.
[05:05.620 -> 05:08.420] I've lost all my power and wisdom.
[05:08.420 -> 05:09.780] I just don't know what I'm saying anymore.
[05:10.480 -> 05:14.240] Um, but I don't know if that was, I don't know if that got announced as
[05:14.240 -> 05:16.240] official, or if it was just an idea that I was floating.
[05:16.800 -> 05:16.920] Yeah.
[05:16.920 -> 05:17.280] Who knows?
[05:17.280 -> 05:17.720] Who knows?
[05:17.720 -> 05:20.120] But a big, big up Paul de Ressa for the Mejum's there.
[05:20.240 -> 05:20.920] Mejum's.
[05:21.720 -> 05:22.220] For that.
[05:22.320 -> 05:24.600] But, um, what do we have going on this weekend?
[05:24.720 -> 05:25.160] What like, some rumors before we get into the weekend, there was some rumors. My jumps. But what do we have going on this weekend?
[05:25.160 -> 05:30.000] Like some rumors before we get into the weekend, there was some rumors like we've basically
[05:30.000 -> 05:34.760] had Pirelli were like, oh, we're going to bend off the tests or nowhere.
[05:34.760 -> 05:36.900] So we're going to test some new stuff last next year.
[05:36.900 -> 05:37.900] What happened with that?
[05:37.900 -> 05:43.400] Because they announced in the roadmap to 2024, where they're going to get rid of blankets,
[05:43.400 -> 05:46.540] they've been testing some compounds at free practice sessions this year.
[05:46.540 -> 05:48.280] And it's honestly, that's a waste of time.
[05:48.280 -> 05:50.880] You can't test tires like that, but they've proposed something new.
[05:51.040 -> 05:51.400] Yeah.
[05:51.400 -> 05:54.040] So we had the 90 minute sessions at.
[05:54.680 -> 05:58.000] Uh, where's it, Japan mix, uh, USA and Mexico.
[05:58.100 -> 06:05.000] I think it was, um, the idea was to test, um, the compounds for next year,
[06:05.680 -> 06:09.140] but heating them up at 50 degrees for three hours.
[06:09.140 -> 06:11.560] So lowering the temperature of the blankets.
[06:11.560 -> 06:12.920] After some feedback,
[06:12.920 -> 06:14.800] basically every single one of the team said,
[06:14.800 -> 06:16.820] no, we hate it.
[06:16.820 -> 06:19.160] So now their plan is to go 70 degrees,
[06:19.160 -> 06:20.480] which is the original temperature,
[06:20.480 -> 06:23.340] but for two hours rather than three hours.
[06:23.340 -> 06:24.180] Yeah.
[06:24.180 -> 06:25.520] So, yeah.
[06:25.520 -> 06:28.920] Like all this, all of this is trying to get ready
[06:28.920 -> 06:31.740] for the next couple of years.
[06:31.740 -> 06:33.880] And realistically, I think they're going to have to invest
[06:33.880 -> 06:36.980] some money and get teams to buy in to running proper tests.
[06:36.980 -> 06:41.680] You can't test, you can't develop a tire on an hour
[06:41.680 -> 06:43.440] per race weekend with all the teams.
[06:43.440 -> 06:45.920] You can't, I mean, developing a tire is difficult
[06:45.920 -> 06:48.900] with huge test sessions, entire, you know,
[06:48.900 -> 06:51.520] entire weeks dedicated to testing tires.
[06:51.520 -> 06:54.360] So to do that last minute at the end of the season
[06:54.360 -> 06:56.520] looks a little bit too little too late from them.
[06:56.520 -> 07:00.520] But at the same time, the teams are pushing back on that
[07:00.520 -> 07:02.880] because of the cost cap, engines, and everything else.
[07:02.880 -> 07:05.360] So the FIA is gonna have to step in and make a game plan.
[07:05.360 -> 07:08.400] So, you know, that's it.
[07:08.400 -> 07:10.560] Yeah. Sorry. I've just, I've just been made aware.
[07:10.560 -> 07:12.400] I keep grabbing to stroke a beard.
[07:12.400 -> 07:13.360] That's not there anymore.
[07:14.160 -> 07:15.440] Yeah. Yeah.
[07:15.440 -> 07:17.520] Sad, big, sad, big sadge.
[07:18.880 -> 07:19.440] So, yeah.
[07:19.440 -> 07:24.720] And the other rumor is apparently we're getting an announcement this week that
[07:24.720 -> 07:27.600] Nico Hulkenberg is returning to Hulls.
[07:27.600 -> 07:29.200] HULKENBERG!
[07:30.400 -> 07:31.700] Now you worked with him.
[07:32.400 -> 07:33.500] I was on the other car.
[07:33.600 -> 07:34.100] I was you.
[07:34.100 -> 07:35.300] I was on Dresden.
[07:35.300 -> 07:37.100] They're the far superior drivers.
[07:37.600 -> 07:38.400] Yeah, exactly.
[07:38.400 -> 07:40.900] I don't know how I feel about Hulkenberg coming back.
[07:41.300 -> 07:42.000] I don't know man.
[07:42.000 -> 07:42.500] I just.
[07:44.100 -> 07:44.900] I don't know man.
[07:51.520 -> 07:55.920] I like Nico. He's a super nice dude and he's been a reasonable peddler, but I don't understand. There's so many other people out there. Like I don't, I don't get it. Like, it's not a
[07:55.920 -> 07:59.600] dig at Nico. Cause I think he's, there's nothing wrong with him, but like, at what point is
[07:59.600 -> 08:06.540] the ship sailed? Why do they keep, I don't know, man, like mix, not set the world on fire by any
[08:06.540 -> 08:11.540] means. Magnuson's rocked back up in the car. Pretty freaking decent. Um, make it needs
[08:11.540 -> 08:12.540] more time.
[08:12.540 -> 08:18.340] Nick needs more time. Yeah, I would. Again, I don't run a team and I think that's obvious
[08:18.340 -> 08:25.720] why because I'm useless everything. But, um, if it was my choice, I think I would rather give Mick an extra year
[08:26.720 -> 08:31.600] than take Hulkenberg on, who's been out for as long as he has and he's what, 35?
[08:32.360 -> 08:35.960] Which I know to me and you, 35, we're still young babies.
[08:36.040 -> 08:37.040] That was years ago, mate.
[08:37.120 -> 08:42.400] But in F1 driver terms, 35 is pretty old.
[08:42.560 -> 08:43.960] So I dunno.
[08:47.480 -> 08:54.360] If he comes back, I'll reserve judgment right and mark it now, bookmark it, if Nico does come back and he puts in a solid
[08:54.360 -> 09:00.040] performance next year I'll be the first one to say that I was wrong.
[09:00.040 -> 09:05.320] Absolutely. I'm the same with you, I don't think don't, I don't think he's going to do badly.
[09:05.320 -> 09:08.640] I'm just thinking like, at what point, you know, there's all these young up and coming
[09:08.640 -> 09:15.080] drivers that are getting out cashed ultimately. And it's like, what about these other guys?
[09:15.080 -> 09:18.840] Why are they going for the safe bets all the time? And I think he's probably a safe bet,
[09:18.840 -> 09:25.080] but I mean, if Kevin smashes him, what's the point? If If and I'm happy to be wrong.
[09:26.560 -> 09:27.520] And the good thing about
[09:27.520 -> 09:28.520] is we usually are wrong,
[09:28.520 -> 09:29.160] so there you go.
[09:29.400 -> 09:30.200] Yeah, exactly.
[09:30.240 -> 09:31.920] On brand on brand always wrong.
[09:31.920 -> 09:33.040] Nobody knows what the fuck
[09:33.040 -> 09:33.800] we're talking about,
[09:33.800 -> 09:35.280] which is fine, which is fine.
[09:35.760 -> 09:36.800] So let's get into the weekend.
[09:36.840 -> 09:37.880] Like I feel like all the
[09:37.880 -> 09:38.720] all the tea spilling
[09:38.720 -> 09:40.360] and all the crazy exciting stuff
[09:40.360 -> 09:42.000] actually happened during the Grand Prix,
[09:42.000 -> 09:43.560] but I think we had a couple of
[09:43.840 -> 09:44.800] a couple of shakeups
[09:44.800 -> 09:46.880] and probably some stuff that we've missed, honestly.
[09:47.620 -> 09:48.000] Yeah.
[09:48.000 -> 09:51.540] It seems like all the major drama happened towards the end of the Sunday.
[09:51.780 -> 09:57.340] Um, just to remind you, there was actually a race on, if you've forgotten since then,
[09:57.560 -> 10:02.140] um, we had FP1, which was, I mean, FP1 is FP1, isn't it?
[10:02.800 -> 10:06.160] Carlos, I think he had some issues with his ice,
[10:06.160 -> 10:08.160] so he's pretty much said straight away
[10:08.160 -> 10:10.840] they're taking a five place grid drop for the Sunday.
[10:10.840 -> 10:12.640] Send it to the back, yeah.
[10:12.640 -> 10:15.080] And then, because it was a sprint weekend,
[10:15.080 -> 10:17.880] we got ourselves qualified on a Friday break.
[10:17.880 -> 10:18.880] Yay!
[10:18.880 -> 10:20.560] What, mate?
[10:20.560 -> 10:23.040] And it was actually a pretty good qualifying, I think.
[10:23.040 -> 10:26.440] Yeah, but I think that one of the things that also set us up for a little bit of a wacky
[10:26.440 -> 10:30.920] qualifying is the sprint race format.
[10:30.920 -> 10:35.120] So if anybody knew, and I'm sure this is a lot of people already know this, but for sprint
[10:35.120 -> 10:40.760] race week, when you do FP1 and you qualify on Friday, then you do a pointless FP2 session,
[10:40.760 -> 10:41.860] where it's not completely pointless.
[10:41.860 -> 10:45.400] You can gather high fuel data because you can't change your setup after qualifying.
[10:45.400 -> 10:48.360] Then you have a third distance sprint race.
[10:48.360 -> 10:53.000] So P2 and sprint race on Saturday and then a full Grand Prix on Sunday.
[10:53.000 -> 10:57.680] Now, the track conditions were not great on Friday and FP1.
[10:57.680 -> 10:59.320] Everybody had a load of understeer.
[10:59.320 -> 11:03.000] That means, you know, people missed the predictions on their setup a little bit and they were
[11:03.000 -> 11:04.000] just reacting to the track.
[11:04.000 -> 11:08.440] And then you have that set of runs. Then you have to pick your setup for qualifying
[11:08.440 -> 11:12.420] and that's your setup for the weekend. And all you can change is front wing angle and
[11:12.420 -> 11:17.360] maybe tire pressures to a small degree. That's it. That's it. And uh, what, how did qualifying
[11:17.360 -> 11:21.360] go? Cause you did like a lot of people are rocking into qualifying, like, Ooh, qualifying
[11:21.360 -> 11:32.880] was so good. I love these qualifying sessions, man. Yeah, we had a bit of like changeable conditions which spiced it up a bit.
[11:32.880 -> 11:37.440] I don't think the changeable conditions had anything to do with the outcome of the final
[11:37.440 -> 11:38.440] weekend.
[11:38.440 -> 11:41.760] I think the changeable conditions just gave us a bit of unpredictability and some fun
[11:41.760 -> 11:42.760] on Friday.
[11:42.760 -> 11:48.640] Yeah, so the first thing I noticed or noted down was I was quite surprised that both Alfa
[11:48.640 -> 11:50.760] Romeos were out in Q1.
[11:50.760 -> 11:56.300] Yeah. Because they seem to be up and down and up and down a bit like Haas that I noted
[11:56.300 -> 12:02.380] earlier in the season. Like some of the midfield, I guess there's midfield teams effectively
[12:02.380 -> 12:08.320] because they're all in the mix now. It's like, there's the front runners, every now and then there's a team in no man's land,
[12:08.320 -> 12:11.480] and then there's everybody else, and then there's Latifi off the back.
[12:11.480 -> 12:13.040] But they're just super inconsistent.
[12:13.040 -> 12:14.040] I don't really know how to place it.
[12:14.040 -> 12:15.040] They're just a bit of everywhere.
[12:15.040 -> 12:16.040] Yeah.
[12:16.040 -> 12:33.360] So, there we go. Q3 we had King George basically try and bury the W13 early and then immediately got out
[12:33.360 -> 12:37.520] and waved to the crowd with a shit eating grin which I thought was hilarious.
[12:37.520 -> 12:42.800] So why is that funny that he beached it and had a shit eating grin on his face because
[12:42.800 -> 12:49.520] if anybody did misqualifying he secured himself pole well no he didn't secure himself pole with that sorry but
[12:49.520 -> 12:53.120] because it was wet weather coming in basically no one could improve their
[12:53.120 -> 12:57.680] times where they had to red flag it yeah so at that point what was our order oh
[12:57.680 -> 13:05.200] God it was you tell me I can't remember off the top of my head. It was, it was big man Kev.
[13:05.200 -> 13:08.700] Yeah, I knew Kmag was bossing it up front.
[13:10.600 -> 13:11.500] And that's it.
[13:11.500 -> 13:16.400] The only reason, I'm not saying the only reason, he obviously did a good lap for that, but
[13:17.300 -> 13:20.400] because of the championship position where they finished last year,
[13:20.400 -> 13:23.600] they're right near the sort of exit of the
[13:24.700 -> 13:27.140] the pit exit in the pit lane so
[13:27.140 -> 13:32.380] they managed to sort of basically get out and avoid the carnage set a decent lap
[13:32.380 -> 13:38.300] and then yeah basically shit housed K-Mag into pole after George beached it
[13:38.300 -> 13:41.780] which I thought was quite funny so yeah love that love that and and the fact
[13:41.780 -> 13:45.220] that so it's basically Kevin Verstappen and Russell and Russell was ahead
[13:45.220 -> 13:49.760] of Lewis and Twitter went mad about that.
[13:49.760 -> 13:52.120] They were like, I can't believe Russell did that on purpose.
[13:52.120 -> 13:53.360] And he's grinning like, fuck.
[13:53.360 -> 13:54.360] And we're going to come back.
[13:54.360 -> 14:00.680] We're going to come full circle to qualifying shit housery at the end of this episode, which
[14:00.680 -> 14:02.120] is going to be super interesting.
[14:02.120 -> 14:08.100] But yeah, so people were furious with you. I even saw people on Twitter very unhappy
[14:08.100 -> 14:10.560] that George got lucky and got his first race win.
[14:10.560 -> 14:11.400] Which is sad.
[14:11.400 -> 14:13.480] Oh, people unhappy on Twitter, what a surprise.
[14:13.480 -> 14:15.260] Sad state of affairs.
[14:15.260 -> 14:17.480] Have a drink of water, maybe sip a nice Monster
[14:17.480 -> 14:19.980] or your favorite soft drink, touch some grass,
[14:19.980 -> 14:22.120] have some water, go for a fucking walk.
[14:22.120 -> 14:23.360] Yeah.
[14:23.360 -> 14:29.160] But Kevin Magnusussen on poll. So in Q3, everybody's
[14:29.160 -> 14:33.420] going out. The Clare somehow is on intermediates when everybody else is on softs and they're
[14:33.420 -> 14:39.000] queuing at the end of the pit lane. And you're thinking, my God, can it get any, like, it's
[14:39.000 -> 14:43.740] not surprising. It's not surprising at all, but the Clare sitting there on intermediates,
[14:43.740 -> 14:46.880] everybody else is queuing up at the lights out at the end of the pit lane.
[14:47.520 -> 14:48.720] And they're on softs.
[14:48.720 -> 14:53.840] He does an outlap, goes past the start finish line, comes back in, puts on softs.
[14:53.840 -> 14:57.280] At that point, the track is starting to get wet again.
[14:57.280 -> 14:58.240] So you can see...
[14:59.120 -> 14:59.360] Gone.
[15:00.240 -> 15:02.480] You say he came back in and put softs on again.
[15:03.440 -> 15:03.920] But he put...
[15:07.320 -> 15:08.480] Is this wet? He put softs on? I think that was Q2.
[15:08.480 -> 15:08.920] Oh, was it?
[15:08.920 -> 15:09.160] Okay.
[15:09.160 -> 15:12.560] I was going to say, we saw some Ferrari shenanigans yet again.
[15:12.560 -> 15:12.760] Yeah.
[15:13.040 -> 15:16.360] They were practicing their race pit stops for a 40 second stop for three
[15:16.360 -> 15:20.040] different tire compounds possible to put on the car, but yeah, that was, it
[15:20.040 -> 15:22.600] was just like, it was, that feels like so long ago cause it was Friday.
[15:23.320 -> 15:27.200] But, um, that team, that team, make Ferrari.
[15:27.640 -> 15:30.540] Should we just go straight for the hot takes gone?
[15:30.900 -> 15:32.900] But not, Oh, keep or bin.
[15:37.040 -> 15:37.540] I keep them.
[15:37.900 -> 15:41.840] I don't think it's, I think anything that's happening on the inside, the
[15:41.840 -> 15:46.000] discuss yet behind closed doors and they're talking to the press like they, Oh, everything's fine.
[15:46.000 -> 15:47.200] We're just unlucky.
[15:47.200 -> 15:50.560] There's probably people that have been sacrificed inside that company for sure.
[15:50.560 -> 15:52.080] What do you think?
[15:52.080 -> 15:53.080] Keeper bin.
[15:53.080 -> 15:56.640] If they bit right, so here we go.
[15:56.640 -> 16:00.120] If they bin him, I'm going to start, you know, stipulating and all that.
[16:00.120 -> 16:04.160] If they bin him, they have to bin more than just him.
[16:04.160 -> 16:07.860] They can't, I don't think they can just get rid of him and
[16:07.860 -> 16:09.220] expect everything to change.
[16:09.220 -> 16:13.340] There's got to be a massive operational change in that team.
[16:14.900 -> 16:15.800] Is my opinion.
[16:16.240 -> 16:16.840] Yeah, sure.
[16:17.120 -> 16:17.300] Sure.
[16:17.300 -> 16:19.580] Like they, they, they're like, they're doing this thing.
[16:19.620 -> 16:20.900] They're doing what Haas are doing.
[16:20.900 -> 16:28.960] They're throwing Hail Marys to try and score a couple of more points when they're fighting for the championship. Whereas when, when Haas throw hail Mary, they
[16:28.960 -> 16:33.280] score zero points or they score two points, which make a huge impact on their race. But
[16:33.280 -> 16:37.600] they're like, Oh, let's gamble for two points. It's like, you're fucking losing the championship
[16:37.600 -> 16:42.200] right now. Why are you gambling for two points? Lock the bag down right now. I don't, I don't
[16:42.200 -> 16:45.820] understand. And it's fine. But you know, us, all of our wisdom
[16:45.820 -> 16:49.300] running a Formula One team, but you can look at that Formula One team and say, Hey, excuse
[16:49.300 -> 16:53.780] me, I have 40 hours on F1 manager. I clearly know what I'm doing.
[16:53.780 -> 17:00.500] But, uh, so at the end of qualifying, the track is getting wetter. Kevin was out first
[17:00.500 -> 17:06.740] set in a great banker lap. No discredit to Kevin. You the rules of qualifying in the wet.
[17:06.740 -> 17:08.600] Or driving in the wet beyond the right
[17:08.600 -> 17:10.260] tires at the right time and beyond
[17:10.260 -> 17:11.840] the track in the best conditions.
[17:11.840 -> 17:12.860] Those are the rules.
[17:12.860 -> 17:14.540] Kevin did those rules.
[17:14.540 -> 17:16.740] He knocked his lap out of the park,
[17:16.740 -> 17:17.980] stuck it on Paul.
[17:17.980 -> 17:18.380] Unfortunately,
[17:18.380 -> 17:20.200] the sprint he just yeah,
[17:20.200 -> 17:21.260] let's get to the sprint.
[17:21.260 -> 17:22.740] Shall we qualifying was awesome.
[17:22.740 -> 17:24.500] I love changeable weather conditions.
[17:24.500 -> 17:26.980] Every changeable weather qualifying we've had this year.
[17:27.200 -> 17:28.520] You see teams making mistakes.
[17:28.520 -> 17:31.920] You saw Max missing his final lap due to a miscalculation.
[17:32.280 -> 17:33.440] People making mistakes.
[17:33.460 -> 17:36.880] You see the order shaken up, but unfortunately or fortunately we've
[17:36.880 -> 17:39.600] got a sprint race to then equalize.
[17:41.400 -> 17:42.720] Yes, we do.
[17:42.960 -> 17:43.460] So.
[17:44.440 -> 17:46.680] Sprintywinty.
[17:46.680 -> 17:54.440] We had everyone on the softs except Verstappen and Latifi, which was a bit spicy.
[17:54.440 -> 17:58.360] Latifi, is it even worth talking about him?
[17:58.360 -> 17:59.360] Bless him.
[17:59.360 -> 18:00.360] Not really.
[18:00.360 -> 18:05.120] Verstappen just did not have a great time on those mediums.
[18:05.840 -> 18:08.160] Medium, no. And he suffered for it.
[18:08.800 -> 18:12.240] He didn't seem like when the communications on the radio, he's just like, I've just got no grip, mate.
[18:12.240 -> 18:17.840] It wasn't like, what the fuck these times? He's just like, it is what it is. I think they were
[18:17.840 -> 18:30.620] also deliberately putting Max on the medium so they could save a soft for Sunday because they were the only people in the front with a new soft. So yeah Max had mediums, a new soft and a
[18:30.620 -> 18:37.320] used soft. Yeah it could have been the foreshadowing of another classic Hannah
[18:37.320 -> 18:47.120] Schmitt's strategy masterclass but unfortunately we never got to see that for reasons which we'll go through soon.
[18:53.360 -> 18:54.480] But yeah there was Alpine, the Alpine loving between Alonso and Ocon continues where
[18:58.800 -> 19:05.340] they seem to have accidentally fitted magnets to each other's car and they just can't help banging into each other and making a scene about it. I think historically Akon likes to get into
[19:05.340 -> 19:06.080] it with his teammates.
[19:06.100 -> 19:07.680] I think that is not a debate,
[19:07.700 -> 19:09.600] and I think also Alonso
[19:09.600 -> 19:10.580] the Lord of Darkness.
[19:11.300 -> 19:12.720] He's not afraid of anything.
[19:12.740 -> 19:13.820] He will get his elbows out.
[19:13.840 -> 19:15.440] He will destroy entire teams
[19:15.440 -> 19:16.680] from the roots up
[19:16.840 -> 19:19.080] if only to take a car
[19:19.120 -> 19:20.580] that's going to finish like 5th
[19:20.620 -> 19:21.520] in the championship.
[19:21.520 -> 19:22.520] A team is going to finish
[19:22.760 -> 19:24.760] 5th in the championship or 6 or 4th
[19:24.760 -> 19:27.920] or whatever. They're going to finish the season and try to think that they're going to win the
[19:27.920 -> 19:31.840] championship. They're not going to fucking do it. And destroying those teams from the inside is
[19:31.840 -> 19:36.960] pretty impressive to see, but he's done it once more. Yeah, it's in the football terms,
[19:36.960 -> 19:42.640] it's the classic destroy and exit. We see some managers do. He's very much of the destroy and
[19:42.640 -> 19:47.800] exit. Destroy and exit. I love that. I didn't, I didn't, I wasn't familiar with that one. But
[19:47.800 -> 19:54.200] uh, so we had, we had those two dudes wheelbanging at turn four, Akon looking like he, like,
[19:54.200 -> 19:58.080] honestly, I think this is fair. If you're his teammate, I would have given Alonso a
[19:58.080 -> 20:02.640] little bit more room on the exit of four. Fair enough. Um, they continue on, but then
[20:02.640 -> 20:06.960] going down to on the main straight, Alonzo does the
[20:06.960 -> 20:13.280] same thing that he did with Strahl in Austin. However, Alonzo just needs it super late to move
[20:13.280 -> 20:19.840] out of the way and Alonzo ends up losing his front wing and blaming, blaming, it's like,
[20:19.840 -> 20:23.840] come on, dude. Like, he has come out, I think, since then and turned around and said, yeah,
[20:23.840 -> 20:25.460] okay, that's my bad.
[20:25.900 -> 20:27.840] Yeah, that's fine. And it's, it's good to see that, but it's like, it's one of those things.
[20:27.840 -> 20:28.560] It's like, okay, fine.
[20:28.800 -> 20:31.600] But then speaking of stroll, what do we got?
[20:31.600 -> 20:32.520] What do you got with this man?
[20:32.680 -> 20:33.280] This young lad?
[20:34.340 -> 20:40.480] Oh, strolls, just doing stroll things where basically, um, he decided to give
[20:40.580 -> 20:45.400] Sebastian Vettel an early retirement present by letting him go cut some grass.
[20:45.400 -> 20:46.400] Yeah.
[20:46.400 -> 20:51.160] By basically, not shunting him off, but.
[20:51.160 -> 20:56.280] It didn't give him any room and he was fully two wheels in the, that front left wing main
[20:56.280 -> 20:58.080] plane was definitely cutting some grass there.
[20:58.080 -> 21:00.720] Oh yeah, she was digging up some trenches.
[21:00.720 -> 21:05.960] Right, so we've talked about this on the pod before though, but next season,
[21:05.960 -> 21:10.640] I reckon we're going to be seeing a, what is the five foot four, five foot five Fernando
[21:10.640 -> 21:17.360] Alonso scoring up with Lawrence stroll in the pit lane, bare knuckle boxing. We've already,
[21:17.360 -> 21:21.680] you know, put our hat into the ring and said that we'd host the celebrity boxing match and
[21:21.680 -> 21:24.360] we'll we'll MC it and commentate it.
[21:24.360 -> 21:29.160] Speaker 1 11. Yeah, dude, that's going to, that's going to be nuts next season. So I reckon, I reckon
[21:29.160 -> 21:32.800] the strolls are going to be tag teaming with Alonzo who's who's in Alonzo's corner for
[21:32.800 -> 21:40.040] the tag team match. I reckon he's going to get Bernie. No, he's he's Flavio.
[21:40.040 -> 21:48.000] Flavio Flavio Fernando Alonzo versus Lawrence stroll in Lance stroll, the father, man, Flav, Flav, Fernando Alonso versus Lawrence Stroll and Lance Stroll, the father
[21:48.000 -> 21:51.560] son bare knuckle boxing combo.
[21:51.560 -> 21:56.760] I reckon Flav, Flav and Nando.
[21:56.760 -> 21:57.760] I don't know.
[21:57.760 -> 21:59.560] Maybe they're a mean pair.
[21:59.560 -> 22:00.920] I reckon, I don't know.
[22:00.920 -> 22:07.320] What do you reckon Stroll like is actually a, like a assassin just dead.'t know, what do you reckon Stroll like, is actually like a assassin?
[22:07.320 -> 22:08.320] Just dead, you know?
[22:08.320 -> 22:10.600] Nah, the Canadian are too polite.
[22:10.600 -> 22:11.600] I'm sorry.
[22:11.600 -> 22:16.560] They would let the Dark Lord take the first punch, like a gentlemanly conduct.
[22:16.560 -> 22:18.840] Please, swing first, sir.
[22:18.840 -> 22:20.760] No, no, no, please, I'm sorry.
[22:20.760 -> 22:21.760] After you.
[22:21.760 -> 22:22.760] No, I'm sorry, I hit you.
[22:22.760 -> 22:23.760] Every time he hits it, I'm sorry.
[22:23.760 -> 22:24.760] Oh, I'm sorry.
[22:24.760 -> 22:25.000] Yeah. Oh, God. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I hate you. Every time he hits it, I'm sorry. Oh, I'm sorry.
[22:25.000 -> 22:25.840] Yeah.
[22:25.840 -> 22:27.140] Oh God.
[22:27.140 -> 22:27.980] I love it.
[22:27.980 -> 22:29.040] And then after that fight,
[22:29.040 -> 22:32.360] the actual main event is Engine Mode 11
[22:32.360 -> 22:34.800] versus MattyWTF1 in that.
[22:35.920 -> 22:36.760] Yeah.
[22:36.760 -> 22:38.960] And then me and Flava Flav are gonna commentate that one.
[22:38.960 -> 22:40.940] I'm a lover, not a fighter.
[22:40.940 -> 22:41.780] Okay.
[22:41.780 -> 22:43.200] Just bear hug him to death.
[22:43.200 -> 22:44.720] Yeah.
[22:44.720 -> 22:46.800] I think if I threw a punch I'd probably
[22:46.800 -> 22:51.240] do more damage to myself than whoever I was attempting to connect to it's
[22:51.240 -> 22:54.200] possible Pedro de la Rosa's Fernando's guy
[22:54.200 -> 22:58.560] somebody said in chat okay I got that but so I mean the sprint was the sprint
[22:58.560 -> 23:03.400] was the sprint the Red Bulls didn't look to have any pace really oh someone just
[23:03.400 -> 23:05.120] reminded me, sorry.
[23:05.120 -> 23:07.600] Yes, I completely forgot about this.
[23:07.600 -> 23:11.100] Esteban's car decided to randomly burst into flames.
[23:11.100 -> 23:15.360] I reckon that was Dark Lord threw a match and lit it, bro.
[23:15.360 -> 23:16.200] It's gotta be.
[23:16.200 -> 23:17.040] Was it Esteban's car or Alonso's?
[23:17.040 -> 23:17.860] I can't remember now.
[23:17.860 -> 23:18.840] It's Esteban's car.
[23:18.840 -> 23:19.680] Is it? Okay, yeah.
[23:19.680 -> 23:23.800] No, it was as they parked up after the sprint race,
[23:23.800 -> 23:25.320] it just sort of went up in flames.
[23:25.320 -> 23:29.640] And then, um, there's like this really funny picture of just Danny, Rick and Vettel just
[23:29.640 -> 23:31.760] standing there watching it basically got up in flames.
[23:31.760 -> 23:32.760] Like not our problem.
[23:32.760 -> 23:35.280] You're going to do anything about that, mate?
[23:35.280 -> 23:37.360] Nah, nah, it's fine.
[23:37.360 -> 23:39.520] But yeah, like the sprint race.
[23:39.520 -> 23:41.440] I mean, I've got it.
[23:41.440 -> 23:49.420] I've got to say though, Stroll is really good at making up positions on race starts. He's done it all the freaking time. So, but like, there's nothing, there's
[23:49.420 -> 23:53.940] nothing honestly that exciting. I mean, Kevin started on pole. Uh, I think he was down to
[23:53.940 -> 24:02.680] eighth at the end of the sprint. I mean, and to be honest, looking at out, looking at outright
[24:02.680 -> 24:07.120] pace. I, uh, yeah, I don't think, I really don't think, um, Magnuson was going to win that looking at outright pace. I, uh, yeah, I don't think I really
[24:07.120 -> 24:12.400] don't think, um, Magnuson was going to do anything with that. So I saw, right. Uh, yeah,
[24:12.400 -> 24:16.640] it was, it was all about damage limitation for them. Wasn't it really basically back
[24:16.640 -> 24:22.000] as many points as we can from pole. Yeah. So the, the end of the sprint goes, Russell
[24:22.000 -> 24:26.720] signs Hamilton for Stapinen Perez Leclerc.
[24:26.720 -> 24:31.080] And like from that onward, I mean, there was Magnussen and there's Norse finishing just
[24:31.080 -> 24:33.560] ahead of Magnussen, but those guys were in a different race completely.
[24:33.560 -> 24:36.600] And even in the sprint race, you see that.
[24:36.600 -> 24:37.600] Yeah.
[24:37.600 -> 24:38.600] Yeah.
[24:38.600 -> 24:46.700] But with signs, five place grid penalty, it made it a Mercedes front row for the race. Ooh, Red Bull second row.
[24:46.900 -> 24:47.740] Let's talk about the race.
[24:48.260 -> 24:52.700] And at this point I was a little bit, uh, a little bit nervous for the beard.
[24:53.380 -> 24:56.180] Yeah, honestly, the Mercedes looked strong.
[24:56.260 -> 24:58.020] The Mercedes looked genuinely strong.
[24:58.300 -> 25:00.260] No gimmicks, no caveats, no asterisks.
[25:00.540 -> 25:01.020] They were.
[25:01.860 -> 25:02.580] Uh, L zoom.
[25:02.780 -> 25:03.380] They were zooming.
[25:03.500 -> 25:04.420] Last year as well.
[25:04.460 -> 25:08.000] Even, uh, all right. The performance between the Merc and Red Bull was a lot closer.
[25:08.000 -> 25:13.000] But even last year, W12 was really fast in the sprint.
[25:13.000 -> 25:19.000] I mean, Lewis won it, didn't he, from starting wherever it was, like 10th or whatever it was, I can't remember.
[25:19.000 -> 25:20.000] I can't remember the start of this season.
[25:20.000 -> 25:23.000] I can't remember last year.
[25:23.000 -> 25:26.800] But yeah, Mercedes seemed to go well into Lagos.
[25:28.640 -> 25:34.960] That's not bad, man. It's not bad. Ferrari really unable to challenge in this sprint either. So
[25:35.680 -> 25:38.560] I don't think they look particularly quick this weekend.
[25:38.560 -> 25:41.520] No, I don't think they looked threatening at any point, really.
[25:44.400 -> 25:49.400] Yeah. So yeah, Lewis had a charge up, I think from the back to P5 in the sprint last year,
[25:49.400 -> 25:54.500] which is pretty impressive for a third race distance around a track like this.
[25:54.500 -> 25:56.600] But that car was rapid.
[25:56.600 -> 25:57.600] Shall we?
[25:57.600 -> 25:58.600] What we say about the race?
[25:58.600 -> 26:03.800] Because I feel like this, the race is where all the meat is all the meat, all the potatoes.
[26:03.800 -> 26:05.620] Oh yeah, give me that meat and
[26:05.620 -> 26:16.600] two veg hmm what veg you going for I do enjoy a roasted potato mmm yep like
[26:16.600 -> 26:26.800] clear traditional British beige food yeah beige yeah you know what I miss? I miss racing.
[26:26.800 -> 26:30.880] I miss being trackside for one main thing in particular.
[26:30.880 -> 26:32.640] It's going out for dinner.
[26:32.640 -> 26:37.140] The Brazilian steakhouse is like Fogo de Chão and the other ones that are better and smaller
[26:37.140 -> 26:38.680] and less pricey as well.
[26:38.680 -> 26:42.080] My God, man, the picanha, the filet.
[26:42.080 -> 26:46.440] If you get them to get the filet mignon and they smother it in garlic, Jesus. I found
[26:46.440 -> 26:52.080] one of my old hard drives with a backup of all my photos, and there was a photo where
[26:52.080 -> 26:58.360] they took us into the kitchen and showed us all the spits on the wall being roasted. And
[26:58.360 -> 27:02.440] then I have a picture at the end of the meal, I think it was Andrea's birthday, and they've
[27:02.440 -> 27:05.520] got this huge bottle of port wine.
[27:09.600 -> 27:14.720] Man, all those things. I just stay away from the caipirinhas, man, because those will, those will destroy you. Those are rocket fuel. So there's two types of people, Chad, who work in F1.
[27:15.280 -> 27:19.440] There's ones like Brake, who enjoy the local cuisine and things like that. And there's people
[27:19.440 -> 27:24.160] like me that just enjoy burger and chips. You're going to go find the Irish pub of the Maccas.
[27:24.160 -> 27:25.520] Yes. I want to go to Ribs and chips. You're going to go find the Irish pub of the Macca. Yes.
[27:25.520 -> 27:31.780] I want to go to ribs and blues. Um, you're, you're Twitter following it and that little
[27:31.780 -> 27:35.520] sign behind you, if you can't see it, it has just crossed seven, two, seven, two, seven.
[27:35.520 -> 27:40.520] That, uh, that is impressive as impressive. Seven, two, seven, two, seven Mackey's. Yeah.
[27:40.520 -> 27:43.760] So there's, there's, there's, there's, there's me. It's like, Oh, I can't wait to go out
[27:43.760 -> 27:45.380] to this really fine local dining
[27:45.380 -> 27:48.640] establishment and spend all my pennies on that one meal that one night.
[27:48.640 -> 27:52.760] And then there's the guys and gals that are like Irish pub, Maccy D's.
[27:52.760 -> 27:54.360] Yeah, a cheap meal.
[27:54.360 -> 27:57.840] So there's more money left in the kitty.
[27:57.840 -> 27:58.840] Aye.
[27:58.840 -> 27:59.840] For some beers, son.
[27:59.840 -> 28:02.840] Oh, wait, lads, lads, lads, lads, lads.
[28:02.840 -> 28:04.360] Let's go to the race.
[28:04.360 -> 28:05.000] Is it race time? Yeah, sorry. let's let's let's let's let's let's go. Let's go to the race. Is it?
[28:05.000 -> 28:06.000] Sorry, it's it's Sunday.
[28:06.000 -> 28:10.000] Everybody's had their photo shower on Saturday night.
[28:10.000 -> 28:15.000] Maybe a couple lads are a little bit hangover or at least they've got their severely dehydrated
[28:15.000 -> 28:17.000] from too much salt and meat.
[28:17.000 -> 28:21.000] So make sure to make sure to have some fiber the next day.
[28:21.000 -> 28:22.000] Yep.
[28:22.000 -> 28:24.000] Stay hydrated and fully sanitized.
[28:24.000 -> 28:27.480] Yeah, exactly. Exactly. But so
[28:27.480 -> 28:32.520] from a strategy point of view, it wasn't really clear. We looked at the, um, P2 data, the
[28:32.520 -> 28:36.760] sprint race, the medium didn't look particularly great when the track cooled down a little
[28:36.760 -> 28:41.920] bit and the track was cooling throughout. I was expecting a two stop. A lot of teams
[28:41.920 -> 28:45.960] favoring a soft, medium, medium to stop medium to stop for staff and did have an extra
[28:45.960 -> 28:49.480] soft in his hand and people are thinking, ah, maybe that's Red Bulls get out of jail
[28:49.480 -> 28:55.380] card. But a Red Bulls get out of jail card for Max was probably not coming.
[28:55.380 -> 28:58.320] Not letting Max and Lewis near each other on the track, I think was probably the answer
[28:58.320 -> 29:01.600] for their get out of jail car for shattering. You've probably already seen the race, but
[29:01.600 -> 29:07.180] I digress. Most drivers ended up running a soft, medium, soft actually, but it was a two stop.
[29:07.180 -> 29:12.240] But I think at one point everybody was kind of thinking Mercedes might be on a one stop,
[29:12.240 -> 29:17.340] but after looking at it afterwards, because Lewis was like, why are you pitting me, bro?
[29:17.340 -> 29:18.680] I don't think they're on a one stop.
[29:18.680 -> 29:20.000] They were definitely on a two stop.
[29:20.000 -> 29:25.480] They were just making gaps and reacting, driving the strategy, doing good strategy things.
[29:25.480 -> 29:30.560] But speaking of the race start, who was it?
[29:30.560 -> 29:37.200] Lewis and I can't remember who else it was on the sprint race got pinged for a starting
[29:37.200 -> 29:38.200] infringement.
[29:38.200 -> 29:40.560] Ah, what happened with that dude?
[29:40.560 -> 29:45.840] Turns out they painted the boxes too small on the grid for the cars.
[29:45.840 -> 29:50.480] So Saturday night they had to redo them for the race on Sunday.
[29:50.480 -> 29:53.360] Oh, that's impressive.
[29:53.360 -> 29:55.920] But that's classic, classic shit at the track.
[29:55.920 -> 29:57.360] They masked up the boxes wrong.
[29:57.360 -> 30:02.040] Yeah, there was three drivers that they were like, nah, it's fine.
[30:02.040 -> 30:02.520] Fuck it.
[30:02.520 -> 30:03.720] Like, it didn't make any difference.
[30:03.720 -> 30:08.400] They're like, no, because on the TV pictures, it looks like they're, you know, out of their grid position,
[30:08.400 -> 30:13.760] but, um, half the check-in, uh, they basically said, fuck, these are way too small.
[30:15.520 -> 30:19.920] So yeah, classic, classic, uh, Charlie Whiting, wouldn't have missed that one.
[30:21.040 -> 30:27.560] No, he wouldn't. God bless him. Big up, Charlie. The sport misses you.
[30:27.560 -> 30:32.700] So race start signs. We already mentioned signs, five spot. Sunota decides to change
[30:32.700 -> 30:37.880] his rear wing and front wing configuration and he starts from the pit lane. He doesn't
[30:37.880 -> 30:42.160] have a very excellent day, so we won't probably mention him too much. What happened to the
[30:42.160 -> 30:46.280] Leclerc on the race start?
[30:47.320 -> 30:48.180] It's not a good race start for him.
[30:49.960 -> 30:50.080] Uh, I don't know why I'm on a race start.
[30:52.100 -> 30:54.560] You've thrown me a curve ball. Then why have you written that down?
[30:54.580 -> 30:55.920] Why haven't done a clerk at the start?
[30:56.040 -> 30:58.160] I don't, I don't even know why I wrote that down.
[30:58.160 -> 31:01.800] It's been like hours ago, but nevermind.
[31:02.800 -> 31:04.600] Something happened to the clerk at the start, everyone.
[31:08.820 -> 31:11.320] Oh, he got, um, didn't he get jumped by Norris? Possibly.
[31:11.320 -> 31:16.920] And then Norris had that absolute close shave.
[31:16.920 -> 31:17.820] See what I did there.
[31:17.820 -> 31:23.820] He had that close shave into turn one with Perez.
[31:23.820 -> 31:28.960] How they both got away with that without colliding, I'll never
[31:28.960 -> 31:29.960] know.
[31:29.960 -> 31:37.960] Oof. Yeah. But here's the other thing that we we've got. So race start, Kevin, having
[31:37.960 -> 31:46.360] gone from P1 back on the sprint, starts the race in the gaggle of cars, and he gets tagged by Daniel Ricardo.
[31:46.360 -> 31:49.080] And I don't think it was potentially malicious,
[31:49.080 -> 31:51.280] but Daniel's got penalty points
[31:51.280 -> 31:53.280] in a three grid place penalty for that.
[31:54.240 -> 31:55.880] Yes, he has, yeah.
[31:55.880 -> 31:59.160] But what about, I mean, George Russell's terror of terror,
[31:59.160 -> 32:00.080] tour of terror.
[32:00.080 -> 32:01.960] Tour of terrorism tour.
[32:01.960 -> 32:07.220] Yeah, of 2022 has been much more savage than that. And I, I feel like that's potentially a little bit hard.
[32:07.220 -> 32:09.540] I know it's race start first lap.
[32:09.780 -> 32:11.700] Daniel rolled a little bit too much speed in there.
[32:11.700 -> 32:12.900] It tagged Kevin.
[32:13.660 -> 32:16.620] Kevin spins around and then comes back and collects him.
[32:18.300 -> 32:20.460] That feels, does that, does that feel harsh to you?
[32:20.980 -> 32:22.080] Hitting Daniel with that?
[32:28.160 -> 32:29.520] Um, do I feel that's harsh?
[32:29.520 -> 32:30.320] Let me think.
[32:30.320 -> 32:31.520] I mean, it wasn't.
[32:31.520 -> 32:34.520] It wasn't, you know, everything had settled down a little bit.
[32:34.520 -> 32:36.200] It wasn't like it was turn one, two.
[32:38.760 -> 32:41.320] I think given they were both out after that,
[32:42.960 -> 32:45.520] you could make the argument that they self-policed it really.
[32:46.240 -> 32:52.560] Yeah, I feel like but like carrying this out. I don't know. I mean, I did enjoy again, here we go,
[32:52.560 -> 33:00.720] wild conspiracy theory. Come on. Kmag absolutely shithoused that spin and let off the brakes.
[33:02.640 -> 33:06.240] Definitely came off the brakes. So he tagged Daniel as he went past.
[33:06.440 -> 33:10.320] I don't care what anyone tells me that because I am that petty and
[33:10.320 -> 33:11.680] I would do the same in karting.
[33:12.840 -> 33:15.480] But he was like, well, if you're not going to use the brakes, I'm not
[33:15.480 -> 33:16.600] going to use the brakes either.
[33:17.520 -> 33:18.080] You know what I'm saying?
[33:18.120 -> 33:18.400] Yeah.
[33:18.680 -> 33:21.320] So, oh dear.
[33:21.320 -> 33:29.440] But after that, uh, Danny Rick obviously got in the medical car to go back to the garage.
[33:29.440 -> 33:35.480] Apparently, I say apparently from what I gather, K-Mag wouldn't get in the car with him.
[33:35.480 -> 33:36.480] No.
[33:36.480 -> 33:42.280] So K-Mag had to spend the entire race in the Island on the inner track, watching the rest
[33:42.280 -> 33:44.600] of the race with the marshals.
[33:44.600 -> 33:51.240] No dude, that's funny. We missed out some opportune moments for like Alonzo sitting
[33:51.240 -> 34:00.360] in the camping chair with a thumbs up. I mean, from having an awesome weekend like that,
[34:00.360 -> 34:04.560] that's a bummer. I feel bad for Kevin and I hope he gets a chance and has a decent car
[34:04.560 -> 34:05.040] next year
[34:05.600 -> 34:10.320] to go again. The only reconciliation he's got from that is that at least he managed to get a
[34:10.320 -> 34:16.800] point in the sprint race. So yeah, yeah, that's awesome. Good for him. Yeah. And that one point
[34:16.800 -> 34:23.040] when you're there helps. Yeah. Where they are, where they are, every point matters. So fair
[34:23.040 -> 34:25.960] enough, man. So after that, so that causes a whole
[34:25.960 -> 34:29.720] virtual safety car sequence. It lasts about what's five, six laps. And then we've got
[34:29.720 -> 34:36.360] the race restart. We've basically got Russell Hamilton Verstappen Perez Verstappen makes
[34:36.360 -> 34:42.120] a move around the outside of Lewis into turn one. He's carrying the speed into turn two.
[34:42.120 -> 34:46.880] They collide at the apex of turn two. Uh, Lewis is sent off to the outside of the track.
[34:46.880 -> 34:49.280] Max has a broken front wing and he has to pit.
[34:49.280 -> 34:53.360] Later in that lap, we've got Norris and LeClaire.
[34:53.360 -> 34:57.520] LeClaire gets banished to the shadow realm, nose into the barriers.
[34:57.520 -> 34:59.400] And this all happened super quick, man.
[34:59.400 -> 35:02.600] It was like, it was chaos.
[35:02.600 -> 35:04.960] We were 10 out of 10 on the chaos meter.
[35:04.960 -> 35:05.040] It was nuts. LeClaire gets going again. Yeah, we were 10 out of 10 on the chaos meter.
[35:05.040 -> 35:06.040] It was nuts.
[35:06.040 -> 35:08.600] Leclerc gets going again.
[35:08.600 -> 35:14.400] And so basically from that point, Leclerc and Verstappen on a recovery drive.
[35:14.400 -> 35:20.080] But we're going, so let's talk about the collision because there's a lot of experts with a $8.
[35:20.080 -> 35:23.800] We got a number to choose from, pick one.
[35:23.800 -> 35:26.400] Let's talk about the Verstappen and
[35:26.400 -> 35:29.320] Hamilton thing first, because there's a lot of people with a $8 blue
[35:29.320 -> 35:31.940] check mark on Twitter that are very adamant.
[35:32.300 -> 35:33.200] Yeah, exactly.
[35:33.440 -> 35:33.860] Shitter.
[35:34.720 -> 35:36.140] Um, I don't know.
[35:36.160 -> 35:39.200] Well, let's, let's, let's, let's ask you outright.
[35:39.280 -> 35:40.360] What do you think of the incident?
[35:40.360 -> 35:41.320] What was your initial reaction?
[35:41.320 -> 35:42.060] What do you think now?
[35:42.160 -> 35:47.840] And chat, if you're watching on the live stream on Twitch, what do you think now? I know it's a cop out. I
[35:47.840 -> 35:54.440] think it's just a racing incident. I wish you'd be more controversial. Oh, would you?
[35:54.440 -> 35:59.480] Okay. So Lewis is full. No, no. The other way. Oh, it's all Max's fault. Yeah. Gone.
[35:59.480 -> 36:03.600] Okay. Yeah. It's all Max's fault. I can't believe Max did that. What terrorist? Yeah,
[36:03.600 -> 36:06.200] exactly. Okay, cool. Now, I thought the same thing.
[36:06.200 -> 36:09.000] I'm watching that and I'm like.
[36:10.560 -> 36:12.720] Let me do you want to go through the sequence of events
[36:12.720 -> 36:14.400] and I'll tell you what I think.
[36:14.400 -> 36:16.760] Sure, why not? It's your podcast, mate.
[36:16.800 -> 36:19.520] So you tell me what you want to tell our podcast.
[36:19.560 -> 36:21.200] Our podcast.
[36:21.200 -> 36:23.280] Oh, yeah.
[36:23.520 -> 36:24.680] So Max
[36:30.800 -> 36:33.280] makes a move around the outside of turn one, outside of turn one. He is fully alongside at one point.
[36:33.280 -> 36:37.760] Lewis is, they're either fully alongside or Lewis is slightly ahead, depending on where
[36:37.760 -> 36:38.760] you look at during the corner.
[36:38.760 -> 36:40.840] They are going downhill into turn two.
[36:40.840 -> 36:45.280] Max is on the outside of turn one, therefore the inside of turn two.
[36:45.280 -> 36:48.920] Lewis looks like he's just taking the normal racing line from where he was.
[36:48.920 -> 36:53.900] Max ends up nowhere to go on top of the curb and collects him.
[36:53.900 -> 36:59.440] So you could argue a bunch of things and I don't want to argue it too much, but I really
[36:59.440 -> 37:00.920] feel like that was a racing incident.
[37:00.920 -> 37:03.440] Like at that point.
[37:03.440 -> 37:05.480] And let's then make it perfectly clear as well.
[37:05.480 -> 37:05.840] Right.
[37:06.760 -> 37:08.120] I've got zero will knowledge.
[37:08.640 -> 37:08.960] Right.
[37:08.960 -> 37:09.200] Yeah.
[37:09.400 -> 37:16.760] So, but I thought there was a rule that said if a significant part of your car is
[37:16.760 -> 37:19.960] on the inside of someone else, you have to give them space.
[37:20.640 -> 37:24.720] But now, whether that is the rule, I think it is it the front axle has to be at least
[37:24.720 -> 37:25.080] halfway with the car in front. I don't know. So there's, there's two parts. Now, whether that is the wrong, I think it is it the front axle has to be at least halfway
[37:25.080 -> 37:26.080] with the car in front.
[37:26.080 -> 37:27.080] I don't know.
[37:27.080 -> 37:28.160] So there's there's two parts.
[37:28.160 -> 37:32.360] There's a clarification that came out in March this year, which was Imola and the FIA were
[37:32.360 -> 37:36.240] like, we want to put some ground rules for overtaking to help these stewards to police
[37:36.240 -> 37:37.240] these.
[37:37.240 -> 37:39.880] So we have a little bit more consistency, which I think for the most part this year,
[37:39.880 -> 37:44.160] they've been fairly consistent, but this one seems to be a bit of an outlier.
[37:44.160 -> 37:50.040] So if you're overtaking on the inside of a corner, which was turn two, you have to have
[37:50.040 -> 37:52.500] a substantial part of the car alongside.
[37:52.500 -> 37:57.300] Throughout the entirety of turn two, Max's front left wheel was in the middle or further
[37:57.300 -> 38:00.220] ahead of Lewis's car.
[38:00.220 -> 38:06.680] But the stewards' decision stated that Max was carrying too much speed in order to make
[38:06.680 -> 38:07.680] that safely.
[38:07.680 -> 38:12.560] And I looked at that and I was like, okay, you could argue that, but at the same time,
[38:12.560 -> 38:14.920] I looked at the laps after that.
[38:14.920 -> 38:18.380] So after they'd pit, and it was a couple of laps later when the tires were up to temperature,
[38:18.380 -> 38:21.520] they were going so slowly through turn two.
[38:21.520 -> 38:25.760] And if you bounce off of the huge sausage on the apex of that corner,
[38:25.760 -> 38:28.880] because you don't have any more room to go, you're not really going to be able to turn
[38:28.880 -> 38:33.560] into that corner. But before that, they were both on the track. So I feel like Max could
[38:33.560 -> 38:37.480] have backed out. Lewis could have left more room. The fact that he got a five second penalty
[38:37.480 -> 38:42.720] for that, I think was not exactly fair, but I don't have any real knowledge either.
[38:42.720 -> 38:47.920] I'm going to blame the sausage curbs because I fucking can't stand them I think they cause more incidences than
[38:47.920 -> 38:52.400] they do prevent and as soon as you touch them you become a passenger at that
[38:52.400 -> 38:59.800] point so yeah exactly look at Lewis and Max in Monza last year as soon as Max
[38:59.800 -> 39:03.240] touched that sausage curb he just launched on top of Lewis's car didn't he
[39:03.240 -> 39:05.040] so yeah I think the same here as soon as Max sort of touched that sausage curve he just launched on top of Lewis's car didn't he so yeah I
[39:05.040 -> 39:10.240] think the same here as soon as Max sort of touched that sausage curve it's like
[39:10.240 -> 39:14.800] it's like you're grinding on a skateboard basically the under floor of the car is
[39:14.800 -> 39:19.080] just basically skidding along the sausage curve you just lose your grip so
[39:19.080 -> 39:25.000] I mean I'm happy to put it down as a racing incident.
[39:25.000 -> 39:31.560] Max seemed to be quite spicy with his comments in the interviews afterwards saying that...
[39:31.560 -> 39:35.920] Yeah, he said he knew Lewis wasn't going to give him space so he just stuck it in there
[39:35.920 -> 39:36.920] anyway.
[39:36.920 -> 39:37.920] But at the same point, I don't think...
[39:37.920 -> 39:39.800] Fuck it now, it's 2021 all over again.
[39:39.800 -> 39:41.440] But I don't...
[39:41.440 -> 39:42.440] Here's what I want.
[39:42.440 -> 39:45.460] I want to see Max and Lewis racing wheel to wheel. What
[39:45.460 -> 39:51.280] I do not want to see is neither of them giving a single inch and both of them DNFing every
[39:51.280 -> 39:55.800] other race. You know, it's just like, I don't want to, I don't want to see cars DNFing.
[39:55.800 -> 40:03.640] Nobody DNFed here. Yes. Uh, Max broke a wing. Fine. Um, but I don't know. Like, I just don't
[40:03.640 -> 40:08.280] like they need, they need to be able to race each other like that because
[40:08.280 -> 40:13.320] neither of them want to give up a single space because of last year.
[40:13.320 -> 40:17.600] Yeah, it's like that old saying, isn't it?
[40:17.600 -> 40:23.560] When the unstoppable force meets an immovable object with those two when they race, neither
[40:23.560 -> 40:33.280] one of them will yield. And of course we end up having a little shunt, but well done Lewis though, for,
[40:33.280 -> 40:37.240] um, I think getting away with not that much damage out of that.
[40:37.480 -> 40:38.920] He seemed to be okay.
[40:38.940 -> 40:41.160] Whereas Max, like you say, completely fucked his front.
[40:41.800 -> 40:42.120] Yeah.
[40:42.200 -> 40:43.880] Uh, yeah.
[40:43.880 -> 40:47.880] And as soon as that happened, I declared the beard was going on Twitter.
[40:47.880 -> 40:48.880] Yeah.
[40:48.880 -> 40:49.880] I was it.
[40:49.880 -> 40:53.960] I lost all faith and I knew from then on in, it was just a downhill slide.
[40:53.960 -> 40:54.960] Yeah.
[40:54.960 -> 41:00.400] I mean, so at the rest of stint one, basically we had the Leclerc-Norris shunt, both Leclerc
[41:00.400 -> 41:03.040] and Verstappen on a recovery drive.
[41:03.040 -> 41:05.560] Sainz is forced onto a suboptimal pit stop
[41:05.560 -> 41:11.320] strategy because he has a tariff visor, which causes a break duct fire. And I thought that
[41:11.320 -> 41:15.400] could have been the end of his race. He's fucking unlucky as Sainz, like at the beginning
[41:15.400 -> 41:20.840] of the season, he was bending it quite often and he's just been unlucky.
[41:20.840 -> 41:28.160] Russell cruising on Russell, just chilling, honestly. And then the second stint, everybody's kind of everybody's most people started on signs
[41:28.160 -> 41:32.720] of the Claire Alonso did medium starts second stint and the middle stint, really Russell
[41:32.720 -> 41:36.320] cruising Perez falls back on the mediums.
[41:36.320 -> 41:38.800] Gets overtaken by Hamilton.
[41:38.800 -> 41:42.440] Paris pace on the soft at the start of the race was pretty good, but much like in the
[41:42.440 -> 41:45.520] sprint on Saturday, just as his medium
[41:45.520 -> 41:46.680] pace wasn't good at all.
[41:46.680 -> 41:51.000] Saying about the balls and mediums that interlagos doesn't mix.
[41:51.000 -> 41:55.140] No, but Hamilton's pace on the middle set on the medium was excellent. And, uh, he was
[41:55.140 -> 41:59.920] actually, this was the only stint where he was outpacing Russell. And that could have
[41:59.920 -> 42:09.760] been just because Russell was managing it. Cause he knew he had a gap to Lewis. Lewis did lose some track time in the collision. He was down to fourth at that point. But.
[42:11.920 -> 42:12.240] Yeah.
[42:14.400 -> 42:19.120] Yeah, I think, I don't think, I don't know, I think if, should we talk about it now?
[42:21.120 -> 42:25.800] Do you think if Lewis was, do you think if the collision didn't happen, who do you think
[42:25.800 -> 42:29.520] would have won out of Lewis or George?
[42:29.520 -> 42:31.000] Hmm.
[42:31.000 -> 42:38.280] I haven't studied the data quite like you have on this.
[42:38.280 -> 42:41.360] I think George looked quite comfortable up front.
[42:41.360 -> 42:42.360] I think he did too.
[42:42.360 -> 42:49.060] I think he had it managed, and especially at the second, the final stint where they're both on softs after the safety car, George could manage
[42:49.060 -> 42:55.600] just over the DRS gap ahead of Lewis. And I think that being said, Hamilton's pace on
[42:55.600 -> 43:00.040] that middle stint in the medium looks good, but I don't think Russell was flat out. I
[43:00.040 -> 43:07.140] think Russell, I mean, Hamilton was on a makeup. He had to make that up. Uh, Russell was cruising, he knew the gap and he just had to get those tires, make
[43:07.140 -> 43:08.580] them last as long as possible.
[43:08.820 -> 43:11.100] Whereas Lewis is like, well, I need to go a bit longer.
[43:11.100 -> 43:11.400] Gov.
[43:11.700 -> 43:12.080] Yeah.
[43:12.540 -> 43:12.800] Cool.
[43:12.800 -> 43:13.320] Blimey.
[43:17.200 -> 43:18.060] What did we talk about?
[43:18.060 -> 43:21.740] Who's who we thought was at fault between Norris and Charles?
[43:22.240 -> 43:23.760] No, I didn't even see that replay.
[43:23.760 -> 43:27.300] Honestly, I was too, I was too invested in the other one,
[43:27.300 -> 43:29.640] trying to understand if my time was right.
[43:29.640 -> 43:33.080] Because I've got to go look at that replay as well.
[43:33.080 -> 43:36.120] So we can do this, we're having absolutely zero knowledge.
[43:36.120 -> 43:37.400] Who's at fault for that?
[43:40.320 -> 43:43.080] I'll say Norris, so then you can say Charles,
[43:43.080 -> 43:46.400] and then people in the comments can just tell one of us we're a fucking idiot. I think it was also Norris, so then you can say Charles and then people in the comments can just tell one of us we're a fucking idiot.
[43:46.400 -> 43:50.000] I think it was also Norris because it was his birthday and he was just being a cunt.
[43:50.000 -> 43:54.000] Oh was it? Okay, so his birthday he'll shunt someone off if he wants to.
[43:55.000 -> 43:56.000] Yeah, exactly.
[43:56.000 -> 44:01.000] But when Charles went into the wall, or the tyre barrier, I thought that's it, done.
[44:01.000 -> 44:03.000] Yeah, exactly, I saw that.
[44:01.000 -> 44:02.000] That's it done. Yeah, exactly.
[44:02.000 -> 44:04.280] I saw that.
[44:04.280 -> 44:08.840] I was like, OK, I think I think I think everybody in the chat is suggesting it was a racing
[44:08.840 -> 44:09.840] incident.
[44:09.840 -> 44:11.080] Nobody's too strong.
[44:11.080 -> 44:14.080] Somebody's blamed one Pablo Montoya, which I do not think is.
[44:14.080 -> 44:19.560] I can't believe he has come on track, caused that incident and it was fucking it was fucking
[44:19.560 -> 44:20.720] Timo Glock, wasn't it?
[44:20.720 -> 44:22.480] It fucking was Timo Glock.
[44:22.480 -> 44:24.160] Fuck sake, Timo.
[44:24.160 -> 44:26.000] Again not in Brazil. Oh, oh, is that Glock. Fuck sake Timo. Again, not in Brazil.
[44:26.000 -> 44:28.000] Is that Glock?
[44:28.000 -> 44:30.000] Oh my god.
[44:30.000 -> 44:32.000] Oh my god.
[44:32.000 -> 44:34.000] Just real quick, I need to interrupt
[44:34.000 -> 44:36.000] the podcast slightly because
[44:36.000 -> 44:38.000] Team Atmarduct
[44:38.000 -> 44:40.000] has dropped us a monster raid.
[44:40.000 -> 44:42.000] Everybody coming in from
[44:42.000 -> 44:44.000] the stream, welcome. We're recording
[44:44.000 -> 44:45.680] the engine breaking podcast.
[44:45.680 -> 44:47.440] Ben, thank you so much for the freaking raid,
[44:47.440 -> 44:48.880] and we're going to get back to the pod.
[44:48.880 -> 44:50.640] But if anybody's new, welcome.
[44:50.640 -> 44:53.440] If you're from my crew from the engine breaking podcast,
[44:53.440 -> 44:56.000] and you're not following TmtMarduk on all the socials,
[44:56.000 -> 44:56.560] you're a dork.
[44:57.520 -> 44:58.560] Love you guys.
[44:58.560 -> 45:00.640] We're just talking about the Grand Prix right now.
[45:00.640 -> 45:02.240] So here's what's happened.
[45:04.800 -> 45:07.080] We're at the middle stint. We've had the restaff
[45:07.080 -> 45:11.800] and Hamilton shunt. We've had the Claire and Norris shunt into each other. We don't think
[45:11.800 -> 45:17.840] that we don't really think that Louis might've been able to challenge Russell, but we never
[45:17.840 -> 45:22.280] know. Russell looked really strong. Now at the end of the middle stint, Hamilton's like
[45:22.280 -> 45:29.360] my tires are good, bro Bono. My tires are good. And they box him. But looking at that, they were just covering Perez and that
[45:29.360 -> 45:35.480] made perfect sense. Also Perez box for medium on the final stint because he did not have
[45:35.480 -> 45:45.240] another soft, which absolutely was not great for his race because what happens after that?
[45:46.840 -> 45:50.280] He goes backwards, really? Yeah, so the safety car bunches everybody back up.
[45:50.280 -> 45:53.440] We've got a safety car for Lando on his birthday,
[45:53.440 -> 45:56.660] has a DNF, unlucky, unlucky.
[45:56.660 -> 45:58.360] But. Happy birthday.
[45:58.360 -> 45:59.680] Go back to the garage.
[45:59.680 -> 46:01.240] Yeah, right.
[46:01.240 -> 46:02.160] You know what was funny?
[46:02.160 -> 46:07.900] When that happened, the cars were coming past the pit lane and there was a very distinct
[46:07.900 -> 46:11.840] sound that I don't think very many people picked up on.
[46:11.840 -> 46:18.000] So the sound was when you take the wheel guns, so the wheel guns are powered by compressed
[46:18.000 -> 46:19.800] air.
[46:19.800 -> 46:24.960] So whenever, when the pit crew are packing up the wheel guns, you close the bottles,
[46:24.960 -> 46:29.080] turn off the pressure and you run the wheel guns out and he goes, wow.
[46:29.080 -> 46:35.440] You could hear the McLaren mechanics powering down the wheel guns after Norris crashed out.
[46:35.440 -> 46:37.440] Like no time wasted.
[46:37.440 -> 46:40.080] They are going straight into pack up.
[46:40.080 -> 46:43.120] The lads like we need to get the Kuiper in later.
[46:43.120 -> 46:46.000] We're going to power down the wheel guns, start packing up all the equipment, tear
[46:46.000 -> 46:50.160] the garage banners down, get these shit boxes back in, tear them apart, get ready
[46:50.160 -> 46:50.960] for the final race.
[46:50.960 -> 46:55.280] I was like, wait, why does that sound like not make any sense?
[46:55.280 -> 46:56.920] It's like, oh yeah, because the race isn't over.
[46:56.920 -> 46:58.160] You shouldn't be hearing that sound.
[46:58.360 -> 47:00.480] When you hear that sound, you know, you've had a double DNF.
[47:00.840 -> 47:04.640] Um, and that's a bad feeling for, ah, dude.
[47:04.920 -> 47:05.100] Yeah. Double DNF sucks, man feeling for. Ah, dude, yeah,
[47:05.100 -> 47:06.500] double DNF sucks man.
[47:07.100 -> 47:09.600] Yeah, taking the power down early.
[47:10.600 -> 47:12.700] So Lando causes a.
[47:13.700 -> 47:15.300] What they tried to do is virtual
[47:15.300 -> 47:16.500] safety car and then they couldn't
[47:16.500 -> 47:17.300] really move his car.
[47:17.300 -> 47:18.700] So when they had to get Marshalls
[47:18.700 -> 47:20.200] and equipment onto the track full
[47:20.200 -> 47:21.300] safety car, let's go.
[47:21.900 -> 47:24.400] We took so fucking long man,
[47:24.600 -> 47:28.480] but it was the same thing that happened in Monza where they didn't realize that they,
[47:28.480 -> 47:32.640] you know, by the time the marshals got to the site, they realized that Daniel's car was stuck
[47:32.640 -> 47:37.600] in gear. Then we had the tractors on the track and cars not seeing it and everything else. But now
[47:37.600 -> 47:41.440] you can definitely hear the race control communicating to the race engineers to
[47:41.440 -> 47:45.320] communicate to the driver. It's like, okay, there will be a vehicle
[47:45.320 -> 47:47.740] on the inside of the track at turn 10.
[47:47.740 -> 47:48.900] Confirm, yes, confirm.
[47:48.900 -> 47:50.220] So it's like, okay, at that point,
[47:50.220 -> 47:52.420] the car's under safety car, everybody's backed up.
[47:52.420 -> 47:55.520] The drivers are aware where the emergency equipment is.
[47:56.740 -> 47:57.900] I was okay with that.
[47:59.500 -> 48:01.020] Yeah, it's part of the new thing
[48:01.020 -> 48:02.580] where they've said they'll communicate better
[48:02.580 -> 48:04.780] with the teams when they've got tractors on track
[48:04.780 -> 48:06.880] and things like that. Which they should always be doing. Which they should
[48:06.880 -> 48:11.920] always be doing. So it seemed I was all right with it because it was a slow,
[48:12.880 -> 48:20.720] slow part of the track anyway so and visibility in that point is quite good. Yeah. So yeah,
[48:21.280 -> 48:27.360] it's just weird to me how that took so long. I don't know, maybe I was just sweating because I knew the beard was in danger at this point.
[48:27.360 -> 48:30.000] And I was just like, every lap counts.
[48:30.000 -> 48:31.000] Maybe, you know.
[48:31.000 -> 48:33.960] But at that point, just throw a full safety car.
[48:33.960 -> 48:35.960] It's in the middle of, was it turn 910?
[48:35.960 -> 48:36.960] Just short.
[48:36.960 -> 48:39.960] I don't know the Brazil fucking turns.
[48:39.960 -> 48:41.920] But it's basically in the middle of the corner.
[48:41.920 -> 48:50.900] It's like, throw the safety car, get it out of the way safely anyway. So we've got a full blown safety car for a couple laps. A lot
[48:50.900 -> 48:55.780] of people, the front runners have just pit. Most of the field have just pit actually.
[48:55.780 -> 48:59.740] Not too many people. We've got signs take advantage, putting on some new boots under
[48:59.740 -> 49:09.000] the safety car. Not too many others. But Perez is on the mediums for the final sprint to the end, and it doesn't go very
[49:09.000 -> 49:10.000] well for him.
[49:10.000 -> 49:11.840] He just falls, falls back.
[49:11.840 -> 49:16.000] He goes into that what P3 and then finishes on 6th.
[49:16.000 -> 49:17.000] Well, 7th.
[49:17.000 -> 49:18.000] Yeah, 7th.
[49:18.000 -> 49:19.000] So we've got that.
[49:19.000 -> 49:20.000] But what happens?
[49:20.000 -> 49:23.000] That's a whole different kettle of fish we'll get into in a minute.
[49:23.000 -> 49:24.480] We'll get to that one in a second.
[49:24.480 -> 49:28.280] But what happened with Sunoda? So all the
[49:28.280 -> 49:34.120] lapped cars were allowed to unlap themselves but because Sunoda pitted
[49:34.120 -> 49:38.720] at the wrong time, I say at the wrong time, but he pitted at a certain time
[49:38.720 -> 49:47.000] where the safety car was. So in effect he unlapped himself because obviously when you're going into the pit
[49:47.000 -> 49:49.320] exit under a safety car, it's actually quicker.
[49:49.920 -> 49:50.160] Yeah.
[49:50.260 -> 49:55.080] Um, so the automated system didn't pick up that he was actually a lapped car.
[49:56.360 -> 49:59.820] Because just, just the sort of freak nature of the way that he pitted at the
[49:59.820 -> 50:03.760] time the safety car was going around the bend, it thought he was unlapped.
[50:04.560 -> 50:06.320] Uh, so basically basically just fucking forgot
[50:06.320 -> 50:12.160] all about him and then when they come around to do the race start he's just trundling along off
[50:12.160 -> 50:17.040] to the left like i thought someone was retiring or something but i was like no that's yuki
[50:20.000 -> 50:25.640] oh poor yuki man i forgot about yuki. Poor dudes. Ay, ay, ay. Poor dude.
[50:25.640 -> 50:28.720] Another stunning success from the FIA.
[50:28.720 -> 50:29.360] Yeah.
[50:29.360 -> 50:33.840] So, Russell and Hamilton take the top two steps to the podium.
[50:33.840 -> 50:35.040] Easy, easy.
[50:35.040 -> 50:37.920] It was, the writing was on the wall all week and that beard was coming off.
[50:37.920 -> 50:41.040] As soon as we saw that sprint, Dan knew this was happening.
[50:41.040 -> 50:44.800] And if anybody's just tuning in, Dan shaved his beard off at the beginning of stream.
[50:44.800 -> 50:48.560] And, um, raised a fair chunk of cash for a great charity.
[50:48.560 -> 50:50.320] So thank you guys.
[50:50.320 -> 50:55.320] Signs holds on to P3 while LeClair's asking for his team
[50:55.720 -> 50:58.920] to please, I'm begging you,
[50:58.920 -> 51:00.920] think about the Drivers' Championship.
[51:00.920 -> 51:04.480] LeClair is currently tied for P2.
[51:04.480 -> 51:08.040] So if Signs had letclerc pass, that
[51:08.040 -> 51:12.160] would have meant they would have been, Ferrari would have been gifting Leclerc the podium,
[51:12.160 -> 51:18.440] which taking a podium away, ooh, but P2 in the driver's championship, ooh, Leclerc would
[51:18.440 -> 51:22.780] have gone into Abu Dhabi three points ahead of Perez if that had happened and everything
[51:22.780 -> 51:25.440] else stayed the same. What do you think?
[51:25.440 -> 51:26.240] What's your take on that?
[51:26.240 -> 51:28.640] I think I don't necessarily think.
[51:30.560 -> 51:34.680] I understand, um, Charles is reasoning for asking, right?
[51:34.680 -> 51:39.520] Because mate, anytime my teammates in front of me, I'm going to be like, Hey, can I go
[51:39.520 -> 51:40.080] past him?
[51:40.080 -> 51:45.360] Even if I'm like five seconds a lap slower, hey, don't ask, you don't get.
[51:54.400 -> 51:55.200] But I think Ferrari were a bit more concerned about the Constructors' Championship because
[51:59.040 -> 51:59.920] Mercedes have dunked a fuckload of points on Ferrari this weekend.
[52:00.160 -> 52:02.800] Yeah. I don't know what, actually, let's do a quick double check, see what the gap was,
[52:02.800 -> 52:06.120] because I knew it was 40 points between them coming into this race.
[52:07.000 -> 52:07.320] Yeah.
[52:07.360 -> 52:10.840] But while you're doing that, apparently it looks like signs was also under
[52:10.840 -> 52:13.900] investigation, uh, during the safety car period.
[52:13.900 -> 52:16.120] So that could have set him back five seconds.
[52:16.360 -> 52:20.120] So they didn't want to drop him back because signs was pace was better.
[52:20.120 -> 52:20.840] And there was a gap.
[52:21.180 -> 52:25.520] They didn't want to drop him back into theclerc, by which Sainz could
[52:25.520 -> 52:30.320] have lost even more points, which would have lost them even further load of points in the
[52:30.320 -> 52:31.320] Constructors.
[52:31.320 -> 52:35.880] 19 points that gap has now come down to.
[52:35.880 -> 52:36.880] Ferrari ahead of Mercedes.
[52:36.880 -> 52:37.880] Mm-hmm.
[52:37.880 -> 52:41.760] Ferrari are now 19 points ahead of Mercedes for P2.
[52:41.760 -> 52:46.260] And the Constructors' Championship is much more valuable than the Drivers Championship
[52:46.260 -> 52:51.880] because that determines how much cash you get and how much wind tunnel time you lose.
[52:51.880 -> 52:52.880] Correct.
[52:52.880 -> 52:56.600] I wonder if we find a weird situation where Mercedes is like, actually we'd rather have
[52:56.600 -> 52:59.240] the more like extra wind tunnel time.
[52:59.240 -> 53:02.560] So it's going to be like the pair of them driving as slowly as possible to get to the
[53:02.560 -> 53:03.560] line.
[53:03.560 -> 53:05.040] No, no, you first, you first.
[53:05.040 -> 53:08.640] No, you take the wind tunnel. No, no, no, no, I insist you take the money. We'll take the wind
[53:08.640 -> 53:13.840] tunnel time. No, no, I insist. I insist. But that, yeah, I don't know. I think they're going to go for
[53:13.840 -> 53:20.160] the position and the championship. Yeah. And this also means as well going into Abu Dhabi,
[53:21.360 -> 53:25.200] Perez and, fuck, I forgot now.
[53:25.200 -> 53:26.040] Is it Charles?
[53:26.040 -> 53:26.240] Yeah.
[53:26.240 -> 53:31.560] Charles and Perez are on equal points at 290.
[53:31.880 -> 53:32.880] Is it 290?
[53:33.440 -> 53:33.800] Yeah.
[53:33.800 -> 53:37.240] I think on count back, Charles has got more race wins obviously.
[53:37.240 -> 53:39.520] So he's in second, but yeah.
[53:40.240 -> 53:46.960] Going into Abu Dhabi on equal points is activating the PTSD there. Yeah. Equal points, Abu Dhabi on equal points is Activating the PTSD there
[53:48.080 -> 53:52.200] Equal points Abu Dhabi. No. Yeah, so speaking of
[53:52.720 -> 53:57.080] The Minister of Defense if we're you know going back to PTSD land
[53:58.080 -> 54:02.520] which happened comes back from I think he's around p10 at the restart and
[54:02.960 -> 54:05.800] He overtakes quite a few cars.
[54:05.800 -> 54:13.320] And at the restart, they basically tell him, go ahead and take some points away from Ocon
[54:13.320 -> 54:14.320] and Leclerc.
[54:14.320 -> 54:15.320] Yeah.
[54:15.320 -> 54:19.320] If, if Max had come through, he like his pace was substantially faster than Perez at that
[54:19.320 -> 54:20.320] point.
[54:20.320 -> 54:21.320] He was on a new-ish soft.
[54:21.320 -> 54:27.000] Perez was on a pretty tired medium. Max, if he had come through and finished
[54:27.000 -> 54:33.280] ahead of the Claire Paris would have two more finish the race going into the next weekend.
[54:33.280 -> 54:38.280] He'd be two points ahead of a Claire, but Max was unable to get that move done. And
[54:38.280 -> 54:43.160] they promised Perez that if Max wasn't able to take those places away to get him the points,
[54:43.160 -> 54:49.040] he would give the place back on the in-lap GP's on the radio telling Max, alright, don't use the DRS, just give up the
[54:49.040 -> 54:50.520] place to Perez.
[54:50.520 -> 54:52.080] No reply.
[54:52.080 -> 54:56.040] GP later asks him what happened.
[54:56.040 -> 54:58.240] Yeah, he says what happened?
[54:58.240 -> 55:00.960] And Max says, gave you, you know, he basically says, I gave you my reasons.
[55:00.960 -> 55:03.640] I told you why I wasn't going to do it.
[55:03.640 -> 55:04.640] Spicy.
[55:04.640 -> 55:05.960] Yeah. I gave you my reasons. I told you why I wasn't going to do it. Spicy.
[55:06.560 -> 55:07.460] Mm.
[55:09.560 -> 55:10.800] Yeah, I'm.
[55:13.800 -> 55:15.260] Ooh, where do you even start with this?
[55:17.760 -> 55:17.900] Why don't we go straight in for the juiciest bits?
[55:19.360 -> 55:19.500] I'm going to go.
[55:20.160 -> 55:26.680] Yeah, let's build it up. Look, I like Max, love him, but I don't think he's done himself any favors here. I
[55:26.680 -> 55:36.800] think he has demonstrated a quality about him that perhaps is not going to be favorable
[55:36.800 -> 55:48.840] in the future. It's multi 21 all over again, isn't it? Multi 111. Multi 111 or multi 111. I don't know. But yeah, he's not done himself any favours and
[55:48.840 -> 55:55.040] any time that he's going to ask for some help, like Abu Dhabi 2021, where the Mexican Minister
[55:55.040 -> 55:59.400] of Defence was crowned. I don't think he's going to see that ever again. So he's banking
[55:59.400 -> 56:04.000] on the fact that he won't need that ever again from Checo because he said, you know what,
[56:04.000 -> 56:05.680] I don't care about your P2
[56:05.680 -> 56:10.320] championship. They've got the constructors locked down, Max has the drivers one,
[56:11.040 -> 56:17.280] and Checo is just trying to get that P2 in the championship and Max said not today mate.
[56:18.320 -> 56:25.600] Yeah and then we have the revelation apparently Max's reasoning behind this is because
[56:25.600 -> 56:34.600] Checo apparently again I've not seen any confirmed reports on this only what I'm
[56:34.600 -> 56:49.960] hearing from rumors and that from Dutch media that Perez purposely spun out in Q3 in Monaco. And of course, everyone on Twitter is now analyzing data.
[56:50.160 -> 56:52.320] They're performance engineering experts
[56:52.320 -> 56:53.920] of zero years experience.
[56:55.720 -> 57:00.280] Look, so right, if you have an opinion on it, fine.
[57:00.280 -> 57:03.200] You know, you're welcome to your opinion.
[57:03.200 -> 57:06.480] But I'm telling you now, 99.9% of you are
[57:06.480 -> 57:11.100] not qualified to look at a race trace graph and tell me if someone crashed on purpose
[57:11.100 -> 57:19.320] or not. Especially when your data point is F1, was it F1 tempo, fast F1, sorry they call
[57:19.320 -> 57:26.880] it. Which resolution is nowhere near in depth enough to tell you whether it was done on purpose or not.
[57:28.880 -> 57:35.120] And those 99.9% of people that aren't qualified, I'm one of them, right? So I'm not sitting here
[57:35.120 -> 57:40.160] saying I'm better than everyone else. Listen, I'm a fucking idiot. I know I'm a fucking idiot.
[57:40.160 -> 57:44.240] You got to pick your battles. And I feel like a lot of people's strength probably isn't
[57:44.800 -> 57:45.680] data analysis considering. I don't feel like a lot of people's strength probably isn't data analysis,
[57:45.680 -> 57:47.720] considering I don't feel like I was comfortable
[57:47.720 -> 57:48.720] as a performance engineer,
[57:48.720 -> 57:50.760] like really fucking confident in my job
[57:50.760 -> 57:52.680] until I did it for two fucking years.
[57:52.680 -> 57:54.400] And these people fired up F1 Tempo
[57:54.400 -> 57:55.560] and they're like, oh yeah, that's it.
[57:55.560 -> 57:56.600] I had a look at it.
[57:57.560 -> 57:59.120] I had actually a look at it.
[57:59.120 -> 58:03.380] And I will tell you that I agree with your first statement.
[58:03.380 -> 58:05.160] You understand what you don't know about the data
[58:05.160 -> 58:07.120] and you've identified that.
[58:07.120 -> 58:10.300] The resolution of that data is so low.
[58:10.300 -> 58:11.720] There's some stuff that looks very weird,
[58:11.720 -> 58:14.600] but the problem with that data is it's like speed,
[58:14.600 -> 58:17.880] throttle position, the brake is on or off,
[58:17.880 -> 58:19.700] and there's engine speed and everything else.
[58:19.700 -> 58:21.760] It looks weird, the onboard looks weird,
[58:21.760 -> 58:27.320] but you're missing so much other stuff you don't know
[58:27.320 -> 58:30.200] steering you can't see the steering you can look at the video and interpret it but you
[58:30.200 -> 58:34.160] can't compare that lap on lap very easily there's there's so much shit going on I looked
[58:34.160 -> 58:41.280] at a bunch of laps and it's very weird I have to say that but to say categorically that
[58:41.280 -> 58:45.520] it's true max implied max appeared to imply in the sky interview that it's true. Max implied, Max appeared to imply in the Sky interview
[58:45.520 -> 58:47.000] that it was true.
[58:47.000 -> 58:49.740] He said, you decide for yourself.
[58:49.740 -> 58:51.840] So they believe that.
[58:51.840 -> 58:55.920] But I'm gonna analyze that in my YouTube video
[58:55.920 -> 58:58.040] that's coming out on Wednesday at break F1.
[58:58.040 -> 58:59.040] Of course, here we go.
[58:59.040 -> 58:59.860] Here's the plug.
[58:59.860 -> 59:00.700] Of course I'm gonna do it.
[59:00.700 -> 59:02.680] The shameless plug, I'm gonna put that in my video.
[59:02.680 -> 59:05.120] That is one of the key points of that video
[59:05.120 -> 59:09.240] And I'll tell you what I think and I'm gonna leave it open because I don't know the answer and I know that I don't
[59:09.240 -> 59:16.240] Know the answer and I'm probably the only person of the 550 people hanging out here is qualified to answer that
[59:16.680 -> 59:21.920] Or at least like he's not even he's not qualified anymore. That's why he's a content creator. Ladies and gentlemen, exactly
[59:21.920 -> 59:27.600] They're like, yeah, mate, you're not looking at those squiggles very well why don't we uh just fucking wildly speculate like the rest of us.
[59:28.800 -> 59:34.640] Yeah exactly I'll speculate I will speculate. I'm of the opinion that I don't think he did it on
[59:34.640 -> 59:40.960] purpose but also the caveat that I don't really know what the fuck I'm talking about so. But yeah
[59:40.960 -> 59:47.400] I will I will I'll say this I'll give teaser. Looking at the data and the context of that situation,
[59:47.400 -> 59:51.600] it made no fucking sense that he would bend a lap and risk damaging his car.
[59:51.600 -> 59:55.000] Like, it makes no sense. It doesn't make any sense to me.
[59:55.000 -> 59:56.000] But whether or not...
[59:56.000 -> 59:57.000] What is it? P3?
[59:57.000 -> 59:59.800] P3, yeah. Like, it doesn't make any freaking sense to me.
[59:59.800 -> 01:00:03.000] Monaco's all about qualifying. If you're not on pole, fuck it.
[01:00:03.000 -> 01:00:12.320] Or you just wait for Ferrari to throw it away and give it to you. GG's. GG's. So. But yeah, I think we saw, like you say, the
[01:00:14.480 -> 01:00:21.360] sorry, excuse me, the implosion of a team in real time there. Yeah, dude. Max obviously spicy over
[01:00:21.360 -> 01:00:26.160] the radio. Checo saying, well, he won those two championships because of me.
[01:00:27.240 -> 01:00:32.300] Checo has gone from the Mexican minister of defense to the Mexican minister of war.
[01:00:33.000 -> 01:00:33.500] Yep.
[01:00:33.700 -> 01:00:38.780] Um, and they've already got both like titles wrapped up.
[01:00:40.100 -> 01:00:44.880] Why the need for all the controversy in a race that means nothing effectively.
[01:00:45.600 -> 01:00:51.760] I don't get it at all, man. I just like, this is water under the bridge, you know?
[01:00:53.440 -> 01:00:56.960] This is months ago, and like if something's happened and you're just now airing it, like
[01:00:57.600 -> 01:01:05.740] maybe they, I don't know. Anyway, it's basically. Netflix drive to survive.
[01:01:05.740 -> 01:01:07.260] You've got an entire seasons
[01:01:07.260 -> 01:01:09.140] worth of content from one Grand Prix.
[01:01:09.140 -> 01:01:10.140] Enjoy, yep.
[01:01:11.040 -> 01:01:12.800] Enjoy that hey and let me tell you.
[01:01:13.900 -> 01:01:15.640] I'm glad I wasn't there for that debrief.
[01:01:17.200 -> 01:01:19.200] Yeah dude, that I'm glad I skipped
[01:01:19.200 -> 01:01:21.140] that one right right chat.
[01:01:21.740 -> 01:01:23.000] Everybody in chat Dan,
[01:01:23.040 -> 01:01:24.900] what do you think was a worse debrief
[01:01:25.280 -> 01:01:28.960] back to 18? or Brazil 22?
[01:01:35.680 -> 01:01:39.920] I don't know, man. I think I'm going to go, obviously not knowing, I'm going to go Baku.
[01:01:41.520 -> 01:01:43.120] I reckon Baku was much worse.
[01:01:43.120 -> 01:01:43.760] Yeah.
[01:01:43.760 -> 01:01:47.920] Like this, this was like, you know, you had an OK race.
[01:01:47.920 -> 01:01:50.960] You brought the cars, but like when you get a double DNF because your drivers take each
[01:01:50.960 -> 01:01:51.960] other out.
[01:01:51.960 -> 01:01:54.680] I don't even think that like this.
[01:01:54.680 -> 01:01:55.760] This isn't I'm not mad.
[01:01:55.760 -> 01:02:00.280] I'm just disappointed kind of thing, whereas back who was like you fucking idiots.
[01:02:00.280 -> 01:02:02.400] Yeah, well done back.
[01:02:02.400 -> 01:02:08.000] Who's been a minute after back who they made both Daniel and Max come into the factory to apologize to everyone.
[01:02:08.000 -> 01:02:09.760] Face to face.
[01:02:09.760 -> 01:02:11.720] I never saw them because I was in the sim.
[01:02:11.720 -> 01:02:13.800] It was over in the race base.
[01:02:13.800 -> 01:02:15.200] No fucking way, bro.
[01:02:15.200 -> 01:02:19.000] And they just both look like two schooled school children.
[01:02:19.000 -> 01:02:22.560] I'm very sorry, I won't do that again.
[01:02:22.560 -> 01:02:25.360] If they asked Max to do that now, he'd just tell them to get fucked wouldn't he?
[01:02:25.360 -> 01:02:25.920] Yeah.
[01:02:25.920 -> 01:02:26.560] Yeah for sure.
[01:02:27.200 -> 01:02:29.360] He runs that shop now, that's for sure.
[01:02:30.240 -> 01:02:30.720] Wild.
[01:02:32.000 -> 01:02:36.560] I can't, you know what, next season's gonna be fucking insane and I'm actually glad that
[01:02:36.560 -> 01:02:40.560] Elon's shutting Twitter down or he's gonna fucking drive it into the ground because I
[01:02:40.560 -> 01:02:42.000] don't think anybody can handle it.
[01:02:42.000 -> 01:02:46.000] You fuckers are gonna have to go burn Macedon or fucking Tumblr down or whatever else it
[01:02:46.000 -> 01:02:47.000] is now.
[01:02:47.000 -> 01:02:50.960] I'm gonna start a new series called Keeping Up With The Bulls.
[01:02:50.960 -> 01:02:51.960] Keeping up with the Bulls.
[01:02:51.960 -> 01:02:54.960] And it's gonna rival the Kardashians.
[01:02:54.960 -> 01:03:00.000] What about Dive to Survive where we just turned to Twitter where they decide if Max or Lewis
[01:03:00.000 -> 01:03:01.960] took the other one out or not next season.
[01:03:01.960 -> 01:03:02.960] Yeah.
[01:03:02.960 -> 01:03:07.720] Because if the Mercedes is back in it, like how many DNFs do you think we're going to see related to Verstappen, Hamilton, collisions
[01:03:07.720 -> 01:03:08.720] next season?
[01:03:08.720 -> 01:03:10.680] I reckon at least four.
[01:03:10.680 -> 01:03:15.840] You know, one of them DNFing or having a substantial impact to the race, four to five of them.
[01:03:15.840 -> 01:03:16.840] Easy.
[01:03:16.840 -> 01:03:18.600] How many races have we got next year?
[01:03:18.600 -> 01:03:19.600] 24.
[01:03:19.600 -> 01:03:20.600] 24.
[01:03:20.600 -> 01:03:21.600] There you go.
[01:03:21.600 -> 01:03:22.600] 24.
[01:03:22.600 -> 01:03:23.600] Hit for single race.
[01:03:23.600 -> 01:03:25.640] Yeah, fair enough. Is it time for that part of the episode? Hit it. There you go. 24.
[01:03:27.040 -> 01:03:27.640] Is it time for that part of the episode?
[01:03:28.080 -> 01:03:39.160] Hit it.
[01:03:45.700 -> 01:03:50.400] It is that time where Dan and I nominate our most fraudulent players of the race weekend. Uh could be people, places, things, it could be inanimate objects or whatever else.
[01:03:50.400 -> 01:03:56.100] Fraud Watch is, it's a watch for frauds and we'll monitor the situation.
[01:03:56.100 -> 01:04:00.100] So, who are you nominating this week for our Fraud Watch?
[01:04:00.100 -> 01:04:04.300] I'm going for, again, it seems to be like a recurring theme here, but the FIA
[01:04:04.300 -> 01:04:05.920] for forgetting
[01:04:05.920 -> 01:04:14.560] poor Yuki on the safety car unlapping procedure. Work to be done there on their automated system.
[01:04:15.600 -> 01:04:20.560] Yeah, yeah. And that was, it's kind of timely that because it's the time of the year,
[01:04:20.560 -> 01:04:28.640] because that was an Abu Dhabi thing. Like we need an automated system to pick the cars to unlock. And like, OK, yeah, we got we got you, but it forgot poor Yuki.
[01:04:28.640 -> 01:04:37.280] Come on, man, I'm going to put the entire Red Bull team on Frod watch this week, man,
[01:04:37.280 -> 01:04:39.040] like I don't even know where to start.
[01:04:39.040 -> 01:04:40.800] I see Netflix.
[01:04:40.800 -> 01:04:45.280] If you fuck this up, I'm never even thinking about watching Drive to Survive ever
[01:04:45.280 -> 01:04:49.440] again. To be fair, I never think about watching Drive to Survive, but if you fuck this up,
[01:04:50.080 -> 01:04:55.040] no. I just, it will be very interesting to see how this plays out, but I reckon it's getting
[01:04:55.040 -> 01:04:58.800] swept under the carpet. They're gonna, they're gonna massage it, they'll be fine. They're gonna
[01:04:58.800 -> 01:05:02.480] be like, right, you guys are probably never gonna be friends again, but we'll get on with it,
[01:05:02.480 -> 01:05:08.320] and that's it. You have now ruined our chances of ever getting back in the paddock with Red Bull now.
[01:05:09.600 -> 01:05:11.120] I didn't say them as a team.
[01:05:11.120 -> 01:05:11.760] I'm just saying like,
[01:05:11.760 -> 01:05:12.800] No, it's too late.
[01:05:12.800 -> 01:05:13.600] It's too late.
[01:05:13.600 -> 01:05:16.960] Oh God, look, even my lights are all falling down.
[01:05:16.960 -> 01:05:18.720] It's everything is fucked.
[01:05:21.040 -> 01:05:23.120] I'm looking forward to seeing what happens with the situation,
[01:05:23.120 -> 01:05:26.240] but like, I don't think we're gonna be talking about it after Abu Dhabi.
[01:05:27.360 -> 01:05:27.920] It'll be fun.
[01:05:29.280 -> 01:05:31.480] I think that's all we're going to be talking about.
[01:05:31.840 -> 01:05:32.880] Fucking after.
[01:05:32.880 -> 01:05:34.000] Yeah, it's the off season.
[01:05:34.000 -> 01:05:35.880] People don't have got nothing else to talk about.
[01:05:35.880 -> 01:05:37.360] Well, we're going to have we're going to have to come up
[01:05:37.360 -> 01:05:39.960] with some really good content for next season.
[01:05:39.960 -> 01:05:40.760] God help us.
[01:05:40.760 -> 01:05:44.360] Oh, fucking now there's oh my God, everything's falling apart here.
[01:05:44.880 -> 01:05:45.880] We'll just just leave it.
[01:05:45.880 -> 01:05:46.420] It looks good.
[01:05:46.840 -> 01:05:47.740] It doesn't look bad at all.
[01:05:49.500 -> 01:05:51.620] The beard goes, everything goes.
[01:05:51.700 -> 01:05:55.020] Fucking beard was holding everything together.
[01:05:56.460 -> 01:05:57.900] This could be the last episode.
[01:05:58.300 -> 01:06:02.540] We made it to 10 episodes and everything's fucked.
[01:06:03.900 -> 01:06:04.220] Yeah.
[01:06:04.460 -> 01:06:09.240] What about engine mode good boy, where we nominate somebody from the weekend
[01:06:09.240 -> 01:06:13.120] who's been a really, really good boy and usually not in a patronizing way, but
[01:06:13.120 -> 01:06:16.480] like in a really good way, even though that was somebody trying to gaslight you
[01:06:16.480 -> 01:06:20.160] by calling you engine good boy 11, but we've turned that into something positive
[01:06:20.160 -> 01:06:21.400] because we don't like dickheads here.
[01:06:21.520 -> 01:06:21.720] No.
[01:06:21.720 -> 01:06:24.440] So yeah, it was used patronizingly on me on Twitter.
[01:06:25.200 -> 01:06:31.680] And of course we took it and owned it. So my engine mode good boy award, I'm gonna give it
[01:06:31.680 -> 01:06:38.000] to Kevin. Watching them in the garage celebrate in a pole position, you could see how much it
[01:06:38.000 -> 01:06:47.680] meant to all of them, you could see how much it meant to Kevin and it was also a really sweet little video where his little girl is cheering and clapping.
[01:06:47.680 -> 01:06:50.520] So as a dad, I feel that.
[01:06:50.520 -> 01:06:52.400] Oh, dude, I love that.
[01:06:52.400 -> 01:06:56.440] There is nothing more pure than seeing the underdogs celebrate because they celebrate
[01:06:56.440 -> 01:07:00.120] harder and appreciate more than the people that have been at the top for a while.
[01:07:00.120 -> 01:07:05.080] And when you see them winning like that, that is super special.
[01:07:05.080 -> 01:07:06.080] That is super special.
[01:07:06.080 -> 01:07:07.080] Yep.
[01:07:07.080 -> 01:07:08.080] I loved it.
[01:07:08.080 -> 01:07:09.080] I loved it.
[01:07:09.080 -> 01:07:18.080] I am going to nominate the Mercedes admin, Mercedes AMG Patronus, Twitter admin.
[01:07:18.080 -> 01:07:22.320] The Engine Mode Good Boy Award of the week goes for you for acting Dan.
[01:07:22.320 -> 01:07:23.800] You've got your finger on the pulse.
[01:07:23.800 -> 01:07:32.080] You know what's happened on the Twitter nets. Congratulations to Mercedes. Big love to the Mercedes admin. Called me right out.
[01:07:32.080 -> 01:07:37.280] Yeah, it's happened. I'm sure some of you are here watching. So thank you very much. We've got
[01:07:37.280 -> 01:07:45.200] episode 10 done next week. Abu Dhabi, we'll probably do it again Monday night. Yeah, I think that works for me. Cool.
[01:07:46.100 -> 01:07:50.100] Well, there's a little bit of a chaotic episode, a lot going on, a lot of tea
[01:07:50.100 -> 01:07:50.600] spilt.
[01:07:50.800 -> 01:07:51.900] Um, I think we covered-
[01:07:51.900 -> 01:07:54.200] A chaotic episode for a bit of a chaotic weekend.
[01:07:54.700 -> 01:07:55.300] We loved it.
[01:07:55.900 -> 01:07:56.400] We did it.
[01:07:57.400 -> 01:07:59.800] Well, anyway, we made it 10 episodes in.
[01:08:00.500 -> 01:08:00.800] Yeah.
[01:08:00.800 -> 01:08:03.700] Um, I think we're going to keep, we might take a little bit of a break around
[01:08:03.700 -> 01:08:05.700] Christmas, but I think we're going to do some episodes.
[01:08:05.700 -> 01:08:08.600] We'll get some actual scripted episodes
[01:08:08.600 -> 01:08:10.100] where we talk about some specific topics.
[01:08:10.100 -> 01:08:11.300] We'll get some more guests on.
[01:08:11.300 -> 01:08:13.600] We've got an assortment of probably
[01:08:13.600 -> 01:08:16.200] some of the coolest guests probably ever
[01:08:16.200 -> 01:08:18.700] that would love nothing more than to come be fraudulent
[01:08:18.700 -> 01:08:20.300] with you guys and us.
[01:08:20.300 -> 01:08:22.000] So invite your nans.
[01:08:23.400 -> 01:08:24.100] Yep, exactly.
[01:08:24.100 -> 01:08:25.000] Get them all in. Pick up your local butchers in the comments. Yeah, invite your nans. Yep, exactly. Get them all in.
[01:08:25.000 -> 01:08:27.000] Pick up your local butchers in the comments.
[01:08:27.000 -> 01:08:29.000] Yeah, go on. Exactly.
[01:08:29.000 -> 01:08:33.000] Live show. And also, I think we're going to have to do a live episode from my living room.
[01:08:33.000 -> 01:08:34.000] Yeah.
[01:08:34.000 -> 01:08:36.000] Before the year's over. Let's do it.
[01:08:36.000 -> 01:08:39.000] Alright. Do us a favor. Can you guys have a great night?
[01:08:40.000 -> 01:08:43.000] And, uh, can you all fuck off?
[01:08:43.000 -> 01:08:44.000] Great.
[01:08:42.400 -> 01:08:43.400] And can you all fuck off?
[01:08:43.900 -> 01:08:49.200] Great.
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