Ep1 - Dutch GP

The two biggest frauds of the F1 Community talk about the Dutch GP, Danny Rics magic roundabout strategy, the Strolls being actually nice people and could Lewis have won the race?

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**Podcast Episode Summary: The Dutch Grand Prix and Formula One Shenanigans**

The "Engine Breaking" podcast, hosted by Dan, aka Engine Mode 11, and Blake, aka Break, delves into the world of Formula One racing with a unique and entertaining perspective. In this episode, they discuss the recently concluded Dutch Grand Prix and other relevant topics in the sport.

**Dutch Grand Prix Highlights:**

* The atmosphere at the race was electric, with the stands filled with enthusiastic orange-clad fans creating a vibrant and energetic ambiance.

* A memorable moment occurred during qualifying when a security guard attempted to remove a smoke grenade from the grandstands by throwing it onto the racetrack, narrowly missing oncoming cars.

* Max Verstappen's gearbox issue in FP1 raised concerns about Red Bull's reliability, but the team managed to avoid any major problems during the race.

**Qualifying Surprises:**

* Several drivers faced unexpected challenges during qualifying, including Nicholas Latifi, Sebastian Vettel, and Kevin Magnussen, who were eliminated in Q1.

* Daniel Ricciardo's struggles continued as he encountered difficulties on track, resulting in a disappointing qualifying position.

**Reliability Concerns:**

* Red Bull's reliability issues have been a talking point throughout the season, with the team experiencing fuel pump problems and other ancillary power unit-related issues.

* The gearbox issue faced by Verstappen in the Netherlands added to these concerns, but the team's ability to avoid further problems during the race provided some reassurance.

**Sympathy for Daniel Ricciardo:**

* The hosts expressed empathy for Ricciardo's current struggles, acknowledging his dedication and passion for the sport.

* They emphasized the difficulty of dealing with a sudden decline in performance and the mental challenges that come with it.

**Unique Perspective on Formula One:**

* The hosts emphasized their intention to bring a unique and entertaining perspective to the world of Formula One, avoiding the overly serious tone often associated with the sport.

* They aim to provide a blend of technical insights and lighthearted humor, debunking common misconceptions and offering their own humorous takes on various aspects of the sport.

**Overall Message:**

The podcast aims to provide a fun and informative take on Formula One, catering to both casual fans and those with a deeper understanding of the technical aspects of the sport. The hosts' goal is to make Formula One more accessible and enjoyable for a wider audience. # Formula One Dutch Grand Prix: A Detailed Race Analysis

## Introduction

The Dutch Grand Prix was an exciting race that saw Max Verstappen take his fourth consecutive victory and extend his championship lead. The race featured thrilling battles, strategic decisions, and unexpected twists. Join us as we delve into the key moments and talking points from this captivating event.

## Qualifying: A Surprising Turn of Events

Qualifying for the Dutch Grand Prix threw up some surprises. Lance Stroll, in the Aston Martin, stunned everyone by securing a place in Q3, while Daniel Ricciardo struggled and found himself eliminated in Q1. Mercedes showed improved pace, with Lewis Hamilton and George Russell qualifying in P4 and P6, respectively. However, it was Max Verstappen who stole the show, claiming pole position ahead of Ferrari's Charles Leclerc and Carlos Sainz.

## Race Strategy: A Gamble for Ferrari

Ferrari opted for a different tire strategy compared to Red Bull, starting both Leclerc and Sainz on soft tires. However, this decision proved costly as Red Bull's strategy of starting on medium tires gave them an advantage in terms of pace and tire life. Verstappen was able to control the race from the front, while Leclerc and Sainz struggled to keep up.

## Ricciardo's Misfortune: A Strategy Gone Awry

Daniel Ricciardo's race was one of missed opportunities and strategic blunders. Starting from P17, McLaren employed a bizarre strategy that saw Ricciardo make four pit stops, including two under the safety car. This resulted in him finishing the race in the same position he started, highlighting the team's struggles and Ricciardo's disappointing season.

## Yuki Tsunoda's Technical Issues: A Safety Concern

Yuki Tsunoda's race was cut short due to technical issues. During a pit stop, his booster seat slipped out, causing him to pull over and return to the pits. Despite the team's efforts to fix the problem, Tsunoda was forced to retire from the race, raising concerns about safety and reliability.

## Controversial Virtual Safety Car: A Red Bull Advantage?

A virtual safety car (VSC) was deployed late in the race due to Tsunoda's retirement. This VSC benefited Verstappen, as it allowed him to pit for fresh tires without losing significant track position. Some questioned whether the VSC was triggered to give Red Bull an advantage, but the FIA deemed it a legitimate safety measure.

## Conclusion: A Dominant Display by Verstappen

Max Verstappen's victory in the Dutch Grand Prix was a testament to his skill and the strength of the Red Bull package. Ferrari's strategic missteps and Mercedes' struggles allowed Verstappen to extend his championship lead. The race also highlighted the challenges faced by some teams, such as McLaren and AlphaTauri, who continue to battle for consistency and competitiveness. * **Summary:**

- The Dutch Grand Prix featured several controversial incidents, including Yuki Tsunoda's bizarre pit stop and the deployment of the safety car.

- Tsunoda's pit crew initially signaled him to enter the pits, but then changed their minds, causing confusion and a lengthy stop.

- The safety car was deployed due to a fire on Valtteri Bottas' Alfa Romeo, but there was a delay in its deployment, leading to criticism of race control.

- Mercedes made a strategic error by keeping Lewis Hamilton on medium tires during a safety car period, while Red Bull switched Max Verstappen to softs, giving him a significant advantage.

- George Russell ignored team orders to stay behind Hamilton, pitting for softs and briefly challenging Verstappen for the lead before ultimately finishing third.

- Sainz received a five-second penalty for causing a collision with Fernando Alonso during the safety car period, adding to his disappointing race.

- The race ended with Verstappen taking the victory, followed by Russell and Leclerc on the podium.

* **Insights and Controversies:**

- The Tsunoda pit stop incident highlighted the importance of clear communication and coordination within a Formula One team.

- The delay in deploying the safety car raised questions about the effectiveness of race control's response to incidents.

- Mercedes' decision to keep Hamilton on medium tires was widely criticized as a strategic blunder that cost him a chance at victory.

- Russell's decision to ignore team orders and pit for softs showed his ambition and willingness to challenge for the lead.

- Sainz's penalty for colliding with Alonso added to his frustrations in a difficult race for the Spaniard.

* **Key Quotes:**

- "I don't know if you guys know this, but when you're wearing a helmet, pit crew helmet, a headset, and you know, the driver's got his helmet on and he's sitting in an F1 car that's running in an active pit lane, you can hear everything crystal clear between people when they're talking." - Marco, highlighting the clear communication in the pit lane.

- "I think they just fucked up, cool. Just checking." - Marco, expressing his belief that the Tsunoda pit stop was a result of a mistake by the team.

- "I think they were taking like half a second out of Max each lap on those mediums." - Marco, emphasizing the pace advantage of the Mercedes cars on medium tires before the safety car.

- "But it was inevitable. You look at that, it was absolutely inevitable." - Marco, stating that Verstappen's victory was inevitable once he switched to soft tires.

* **Overall Message:**

The Dutch Grand Prix was a race of strategic blunders, controversial incidents, and unexpected twists, ultimately resulting in a Red Bull victory and a disappointing day for Mercedes. **Race Summary and Analysis:**

* The Dutch Grand Prix was dominated by Max Verstappen, who led from start to finish and secured his tenth victory of the season.
* Despite a strong start, Lewis Hamilton was unable to challenge Verstappen and finished second, while Sergio Perez completed the podium.
* Lance Stroll scored a point for Aston Martin with a P10 finish, while Fernando Alonso had a good race to finish sixth.
* Mick Schumacher had a nightmare race, finishing in 13th after a botched pit stop.
* Sebastian Vettel incurred a blue flag incident with Hamilton and Checo, becoming a rolling roadblock.
* Daniel Ricciardo started 17th, made several pit stops, and finished 17th.
* Valtteri Bottas and Yuki Tsunoda retired from the race, while Verstappen secured the fastest lap.

**Monza Preview:**

* There are rumors that Sergio Perez may take a penalty for a new PU.
* Red Bull is expected to have a strong showing at Monza due to their straight-line speed advantage.
* Ferrari may struggle due to their lack of straight-line speed and a special tribute livery that could add weight to the car.
* There was a fire involving one of the Ferrari team trucks while traveling from Zandvoort to Monza, but the damage appears to be superficial.
* The Ferrari tow, where the two Ferrari drivers suck each other off down the straight for a speed boost, may be attempted.
* Other teams may also try to employ this tactic, leading to potential qualifying clusterfucks.
* Mercedes is expected to struggle at Monza due to the long straights, while Ferrari may be able to make up for their lack of straight-line speed with better braking and traction.
* Red Bull is still favored to win the race, but Ferrari may be able to challenge them at Monza.

**Fraud Watch:**

* Daniel Ricciardo's strategy was criticized for its excessive use of soft tires and lack of clear strategy.
* Ferrari's continued struggles with pit stops and race strategy were highlighted as a major issue.

**Good Boy of the Day:**

* Hannah Schmitz, Red Bull's strategist, was praised for her calm demeanor and effective decision-making during the race.
* George Russell was also recognized for his strong performance, despite the challenges faced by Mercedes.

**Overall Takeaway:**

* The Dutch Grand Prix was a relatively straightforward race, with Verstappen dominating from start to finish.
* Monza is expected to be a more challenging circuit for Red Bull, with Ferrari potentially having an advantage.
* The race could see some interesting strategies and potential incidents, such as the Ferrari tow and qualifying clusterfucks.

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[01:26.300 -> 01:30.220] Hello and welcome to episode 1 of the Engine Breaking Podcast.
[01:30.600 -> 01:36.360] You are joined by myself, Dan, aka Engine Mode 11, and my beautiful
[01:36.920 -> 01:40.680] social media husband, that is Blake. Would you like to introduce yourself, sir?
[01:40.680 -> 01:48.320] Yeah, my name is Blake, aka Break, and I am here doing our first episode of this very,
[01:48.320 -> 01:52.920] very fraudulent broadcast with Dan.
[01:52.920 -> 01:56.120] So can you tell everybody why we're doing a podcast?
[01:56.120 -> 01:59.320] Because personally, I'm not too sure yet.
[01:59.320 -> 02:04.800] No, I'm not really sure either, to be honest, but for the sake of professionalism, we'll
[02:04.800 -> 02:05.800] give it a go.
[02:05.800 -> 02:09.440] But I've always wanted to give podcasting a go.
[02:09.440 -> 02:12.840] Obviously, you can't do that when you work in the paddock, right?
[02:12.840 -> 02:16.040] There's NDAs and all that nonsense.
[02:16.040 -> 02:17.040] The trips to HR.
[02:17.040 -> 02:20.040] Yeah, I'm very familiar with that.
[02:20.040 -> 02:26.160] But I just wanted to create a podcast and I didn't feel we could work solo.
[02:26.160 -> 02:31.720] And then I thought, well, why don't, you know, I be the looks behind this operation and you
[02:31.720 -> 02:37.600] can be the brains and you can join forces and create the most fraudulent podcast in
[02:37.600 -> 02:38.600] the F1 community.
[02:38.600 -> 02:40.280] Have we, have we tagged that actually?
[02:40.280 -> 02:43.120] Can we ink that the most fraudulent podcast?
[02:43.120 -> 02:49.720] Dude, honestly, I've always wanted to do a podcast and my thing is the exact same thing is like I love talking about Formula
[02:49.720 -> 02:53.660] One but for the life of me, I don't really like the sound of my voice that much
[02:53.660 -> 03:00.400] So I need somebody with the correct vibes and the correct attitude and we can ping-pong off of each other and since we never
[03:00.520 -> 03:09.720] Actually ever talked while we were at Red Bull and we've gotten internet married since then. We've been getting on like a house on fire and I am so looking forward to this
[03:09.720 -> 03:17.040] and let's be honest, like a lot of F1 has its head up its ass and we're going to be
[03:17.040 -> 03:25.360] the opposite of that. We are going to be fraudulent, lots of shithousery, and everything else.
[03:25.360 -> 03:30.880] Yeah, yeah, we're not going to take ourselves too seriously, but know that in the back of
[03:30.880 -> 03:35.240] your minds, that if we wanted to just dunk on all these other people out there with vastly
[03:35.240 -> 03:38.880] superior technical knowledge, we could.
[03:38.880 -> 03:39.880] But we're not gonna.
[03:39.880 -> 03:42.880] No, no we're not.
[03:42.880 -> 03:47.640] Wait, you didn't tell them what you used to do because I used to be the barista.
[03:49.520 -> 03:54.760] So, yeah, how many years were you the barista at Red Bull Racing?
[03:54.760 -> 03:57.560] Six years I made coffees.
[03:58.160 -> 03:59.840] Yeah, okay. I
[03:59.840 -> 04:03.360] dealt with the post for six years at Red Bull Racing.
[04:03.360 -> 04:04.800] dealt with the post for six years at Red Bull Racing.
[04:09.920 -> 04:16.480] So we've absorbed quite a lot of technical latte art. And what's your favorite paper? No, I'm just kidding. So tell us about your background and your experience in the world
[04:16.480 -> 04:22.480] of Formula One, because I don't want this to be a super serious podcast, but, you know,
[04:23.280 -> 04:28.960] once you're inside of the machine, you start to learn so much about
[04:28.960 -> 04:32.800] the world of it and how it works, and you see stuff on the internet and you're like,
[04:32.800 -> 04:33.800] that's possibly bollocks.
[04:33.800 -> 04:38.160] And then you see stuff on the internet and it's like, plausible.
[04:38.160 -> 04:42.680] And sometimes, depending on the topic, you can't really speak your mind on that, or you
[04:42.680 -> 04:46.240] do get crucified. But anyway, anyway.
[04:49.680 -> 04:51.920] Maybe that could be a future episode, all the times that Dan went to HR.
[04:54.160 -> 04:55.920] Maybe like a non-race weekend episode. Yeah, exactly. Exactly.
[04:57.600 -> 05:09.680] But yes, in all seriousness, I joined Red Bull at the start of the 2016 season as a senior systems engineer, which
[05:09.680 -> 05:16.000] is a glorified way of saying IT, but there was a lot of spinning plates involved with
[05:16.000 -> 05:17.280] that.
[05:17.280 -> 05:21.920] It gives you a unique top-down view on the entire business.
[05:21.920 -> 05:26.880] I dealt with stuff at the wind tunnel, the simulators, you know,
[05:26.880 -> 05:32.800] even silly things like the MK7 hospitality. So when the simulator was broken, that was you?
[05:33.360 -> 05:37.200] That was on me. Okay, cool. Yeah. Every time I saw your name come up on the phone,
[05:37.920 -> 05:40.400] I just put you straight to the voicemail. Cheers lad.
[05:43.120 -> 05:45.200] Oh, I love it.
[05:45.200 -> 05:50.680] You have a bit more of a longer journey around F1, don't you?
[05:50.680 -> 05:54.360] It certainly feels like a long time, but then I look back and it's like, well, that was,
[05:54.360 -> 05:55.360] that feels like yesterday.
[05:55.360 -> 06:03.200] But, um, yeah, I joined Force India back in 2012, 2011, uh, short stint in vehicle dynamics.
[06:03.200 -> 06:06.640] And then some joker quit the race team and like, fuck,
[06:06.640 -> 06:12.200] we need a performance engineer for Spain. So Spain 2012, which was a cursed Grand Prix,
[06:12.200 -> 06:17.720] mind you, uh, was my first race at the track. I did a three years there as a track performance
[06:17.720 -> 06:23.240] engineer, then moved to Red Bull, worked with our man, Daniel Kiviat, who's an absolute
[06:23.240 -> 06:26.000] freaking legend and Max after that.
[06:26.000 -> 06:27.000] And then I moved back to the factory.
[06:27.000 -> 06:30.280] I wanted to be a simulator rat and help develop the car.
[06:30.280 -> 06:32.140] The trackside life was brutal.
[06:32.140 -> 06:38.000] You did a couple stints on the road, not like sustained periods, but you got you got a sniff
[06:38.000 -> 06:40.080] of what it's like actually being in the paddock and people.
[06:40.080 -> 06:41.680] Oh, wow, that must be so cool.
[06:41.680 -> 06:43.460] It's like, are you kidding me?
[06:43.460 -> 06:46.300] You see a hotel, you see the racetrack,
[06:46.300 -> 06:48.360] and you ride in the stinky van,
[06:49.600 -> 06:51.020] hotel, airport, racetrack, that's it.
[06:51.020 -> 06:53.040] And I mean, it is cool, and it's a great experience,
[06:53.040 -> 06:56.620] and I'm sure you got a much better understanding
[06:56.620 -> 06:58.500] of the track, but people think it's, you know,
[06:58.500 -> 07:01.240] champagne and BJs, and it's like,
[07:01.240 -> 07:04.980] nah, my life, my life is tough right now, so.
[07:04.980 -> 07:13.200] It's Heineken 00 and the hand jobs behind the really tire tire truck to yourself, right?
[07:13.200 -> 07:15.500] Yeah, yeah.
[07:15.500 -> 07:16.580] They call that something else.
[07:16.580 -> 07:22.400] But anyway, so yeah, I feel like I feel like we've got a super, super unique take on the
[07:22.400 -> 07:24.040] world of Formula One.
[07:24.040 -> 07:28.960] And but let's just make sure not to take ourselves too seriously because we're gonna have a lot of fun
[07:29.120 -> 07:32.660] This is not supposed to be work if I wanted to you know
[07:32.820 -> 07:37.580] Not be having that much fun to be traveling the world 24-7 never get to see my girlfriend or my cats
[07:37.580 -> 07:42.380] Where are they? I'd still be at the track, but I'm here a joking around on the internet. So
[07:43.120 -> 07:44.360] Yeah
[07:44.360 -> 07:46.360] What do you think?
[07:47.040 -> 07:52.860] What do I think I think about what what are you thinking is the plan for this podcast because we've kind of said like hey
[07:53.360 -> 07:58.560] You know, I said I want to do I should do a podcast. You're like fuck it. Let's start when I'm like fuck
[07:58.560 -> 08:02.880] Yeah, let's start one. Yeah, how hard can it be? How hard can it be?
[08:02.160 -> 08:02.960] Yeah. How hard can it be? How hard can it be?
[08:04.240 -> 08:09.440] No. So I think we've spoken about this and the plan for this is we're going to do like a sort of
[08:09.440 -> 08:15.840] post-race rundown. We'll do some sort of like guest interviews on non-race weeks.
[08:16.800 -> 08:20.560] And like you say, we're just going to have fun with it, really. I'm sick and tired of
[08:21.120 -> 08:23.920] taking it too seriously. Make F1 fun again.
[08:23.920 -> 08:28.000] Yeah, exactly. What's that? Does that acronym spell anything funny?
[08:29.680 -> 08:33.520] Make F1 fun again. MFUH.
[08:33.520 -> 08:37.760] No, okay, fuck that. We're not using that one. But yeah, and like, I think honestly,
[08:37.760 -> 08:45.600] like we can probably, you know, do a little bit of debunkunking some shithousery and some tinfoil hat theories and also spin
[08:45.600 -> 08:51.480] our own webs of absolute nonsense, but not take it too seriously.
[08:51.480 -> 08:57.160] In short, Formula One, fraudulently, I think is the way to go.
[08:57.160 -> 08:59.560] Like there's no point in taking it too seriously.
[08:59.560 -> 09:01.500] So no, no.
[09:01.500 -> 09:03.120] Is that a fraudulent front?
[09:03.120 -> 09:04.120] Yeah.
[09:04.120 -> 09:06.800] Do you think that's enough for our little introductions?
[09:07.180 -> 09:08.280] What do you say? I think so.
[09:08.280 -> 09:10.940] I think the majority of people probably know who we are.
[09:11.000 -> 09:13.100] And if not, then get to know.
[09:13.100 -> 09:14.180] Welcome. Welcome.
[09:14.180 -> 09:16.500] And if you're new, love to have you.
[09:16.840 -> 09:18.080] And we're doing something a little bit different.
[09:18.080 -> 09:23.380] We're actually recording this pod live over on my Twitch at break with three hours.
[09:23.540 -> 09:25.800] We I think we'll we'll try that, see how it works.
[09:26.000 -> 09:27.480] Sometimes we'll do it, sometimes not.
[09:27.480 -> 09:32.100] But I think our goal right now is to come at you with one of the most unique
[09:32.100 -> 09:34.440] Formula One podcasts once a week.
[09:35.440 -> 09:37.580] Hmm. We didn't say it was going to be the best.
[09:37.900 -> 09:39.880] No, it's going to be definitely unique.
[09:39.880 -> 09:41.180] I mean, yeah.
[09:41.740 -> 09:43.940] But that's it. That's it.
[09:44.540 -> 09:46.480] All right. Well, so I'll see you guys next week.
[09:46.480 -> 09:48.000] Yeah, thanks everyone for joining.
[09:48.000 -> 09:49.000] See you later.
[09:49.000 -> 09:50.000] Bye.
[09:50.000 -> 09:51.000] Just kidding.
[09:51.000 -> 09:52.000] Just kidding.
[09:52.000 -> 09:55.480] So I think it's, it's, why don't we start with the Dutch Grand Prix?
[09:55.480 -> 09:57.560] Why don't we start there?
[09:57.560 -> 09:58.560] Yeah.
[09:58.560 -> 10:03.760] The place where they are now entirely sold out of orange smoke grenades.
[10:03.760 -> 10:04.760] Yeah.
[10:04.760 -> 10:07.040] The security bought all of them up.
[10:07.040 -> 10:09.120] Yeah, that's wild.
[10:09.120 -> 10:11.560] What was going on with that?
[10:11.560 -> 10:12.560] I don't know.
[10:12.560 -> 10:15.400] For people that don't know, there's a video that's come out.
[10:15.400 -> 10:19.760] It was during qualifying where we had that second smoke grenade that rolled towards the
[10:19.760 -> 10:20.760] pit lane.
[10:20.760 -> 10:25.680] A video has come out and it was a security guard in the stand just hoofing it straight
[10:25.680 -> 10:30.880] across the fence and then onto the track. I don't know if it was just like a really
[10:30.880 -> 10:37.440] poorly thought out idea of trying to get it out the grandstand. But yeah, you know, your
[10:37.440 -> 10:43.800] options are, should I leave this in the grandstand or shall I throw it onto a live racetrack
[10:43.800 -> 10:46.280] where cars are coming around at about 170 miles an hour? Yeah, racetrack. shall I throw it onto a live racetrack where cars are coming round at about 170 miles
[10:46.280 -> 10:47.280] an hour?
[10:47.280 -> 10:48.280] Hmm, yeah, racetrack.
[10:48.280 -> 10:50.800] Dan Should I throw it on the track so that nobody
[10:50.800 -> 10:52.680] else can throw it on the track?
[10:52.680 -> 10:57.360] Maybe he's, maybe he used to be an ex-NFL player and he's got an arm on him and he's
[10:57.360 -> 11:00.160] got precision on it, so, what was that?
[11:00.160 -> 11:04.000] Matt To be fair, it was a heck of a throw, like
[11:04.000 -> 11:06.200] I was mad, yet impressed at the same time
[11:07.140 -> 11:09.140] Not even mad. Oh
[11:09.600 -> 11:13.920] I mean, so yeah, that was that whole event was an
[11:14.720 -> 11:22.600] Atmosphere and a half and like if you don't like the orange army fine, so be it like but like where do you see?
[11:24.780 -> 11:25.880] it like but like where do you see? Like vibes like that,
[11:25.880 -> 11:28.020] I don't think we see it anywhere else.
[11:28.020 -> 11:29.540] That was insanely unique like the
[11:29.540 -> 11:31.280] start of the race when there was
[11:31.280 -> 11:33.560] the flag across the grandstands.
[11:33.560 -> 11:35.260] I was like, yeah, oh my God,
[11:35.260 -> 11:36.460] and there's some shitty techno
[11:36.460 -> 11:37.660] music or something as well,
[11:37.660 -> 11:38.460] but I will.
[11:38.460 -> 11:40.060] That's nothing that's a legal requirement
[11:40.060 -> 11:41.580] when you're out there, isn't it?
[11:41.580 -> 11:42.500] Yeah, exactly exactly.
[11:42.500 -> 11:43.580] But I mean, yeah.
[11:43.580 -> 11:44.540] What do you want?
[11:44.540 -> 11:45.040] You want to go through the Friday and the qualifying? Because I think there's a couple of requirement when you're out there isn't it? Yeah exactly, exactly. But I mean, yeah.
[11:45.840 -> 11:49.360] What do you, do you want to go through the Friday and the qualifying? Because I think there's a
[11:49.360 -> 11:54.240] couple of interesting points there and I'm just, I'm just like amped about the race and it was,
[11:55.040 -> 12:02.240] it was chaos. So let's set the scene, let's set the scene. So full disclosure, I didn't get to
[12:02.240 -> 12:07.760] catch much of Friday. I was too busy having a job, which I know a lot of people out there don't think I've
[12:07.760 -> 12:08.760] got one.
[12:08.760 -> 12:10.320] And I just sit on Twitter all day.
[12:10.320 -> 12:12.520] I thought your job was Twitter.
[12:12.520 -> 12:15.720] Well, sadly, it doesn't pay.
[12:15.720 -> 12:20.680] But on the Friday, the only major talking point I can think of is where Max decided
[12:20.680 -> 12:24.600] to grenade his gearbox in FP1.
[12:24.600 -> 12:25.840] Yeah.
[12:25.840 -> 12:27.520] I mean, and that was one of those things,
[12:27.520 -> 12:29.840] it's like, ooh, Red Bull reliability problems.
[12:29.840 -> 12:33.280] Because to be honest, we started off this season thinking,
[12:33.280 -> 12:36.360] Red Bull reliability is going to absolutely screw them.
[12:36.360 -> 12:38.480] We had a couple fuel pump issues
[12:38.480 -> 12:41.640] and some other ancillary power unit related issues
[12:41.640 -> 12:43.400] and people like, it's the Honda,
[12:43.400 -> 12:45.280] or it's the Red Bull powertrains, they've screwed it. And it's like like it's the Honda or it's the it's the it's the Red Bull power trains
[12:45.280 -> 12:52.080] They've screwed it. It's like it's still a Honda and most of those systems that are failing are actually ancillary. They're not actually
[12:52.760 -> 12:56.060] Power unit pieces, you know, they're like the fuel pumps
[12:56.360 -> 13:00.640] Usually the chassis manufacturer usually does stuff like the fuel pumps in the fuel system
[13:00.640 -> 13:10.240] The engine is just like hi. Can I have some low- pressure fuel please? So I can juice it straight into the engine. But, uh, yeah. And as we saw in Bahrain,
[13:11.120 -> 13:16.080] we decided to DNF both cars. That was, that was good. So that when that's your starting point,
[13:16.080 -> 13:20.960] you think, okay, it's going to be one of those seasons. Yeah, it is. And I noticed you said,
[13:20.960 -> 13:26.280] we said, you said, we, is that, is Is that are you associating yourself with the Red Bull team?
[13:26.280 -> 13:27.280] Is that what you're doing here?
[13:27.280 -> 13:28.280] Yeah.
[13:28.280 -> 13:33.840] So I don't know if you know, but I secretly moonlight as Helmut Marko at race weekends.
[13:33.840 -> 13:37.960] I knew you looked funny.
[13:37.960 -> 13:42.540] That aftershave, man, that never goes away once you once you smell it and you stare down
[13:42.540 -> 13:45.040] by the man himself and he's asking for your run plan.
[13:45.040 -> 13:48.160] You're like, helmet, I don't have a printed run plan.
[13:48.160 -> 13:50.320] It's on my laptop. And then he just walks away from me.
[13:50.320 -> 13:52.080] I'm like, God, that was frightening.
[13:52.600 -> 13:56.240] No, but but like, I lost my train of thought there.
[13:56.240 -> 13:57.320] I was going somewhere with that. But.
[13:58.440 -> 14:00.120] We were talking about Bahrain DNFs.
[14:00.280 -> 14:01.080] Bahrain DNFs.
[14:01.080 -> 14:01.800] Reliability.
[14:02.400 -> 14:06.540] Yeah, but I mean, that was going to be that that was going to be the, you know, the Red Bull
[14:06.540 -> 14:07.540] had the chance.
[14:07.540 -> 14:10.560] They've got a fast car, the Honda, the Red Bull powertrains powering, it looks good.
[14:10.560 -> 14:12.160] The car is slippy.
[14:12.160 -> 14:15.160] They don't seem to be having all the issues of porpoising of everybody else.
[14:15.160 -> 14:17.520] And then you've got these reliability issues creeping in.
[14:17.520 -> 14:21.180] And now, you know, we're like, ooh, gearbox issue.
[14:21.180 -> 14:22.280] Is it coming back again?
[14:22.280 -> 14:23.760] But those things just happen.
[14:23.760 -> 14:25.040] And it was a Friday box
[14:25.040 -> 14:28.300] And if they take a fire good place penalty somewhere else, honestly
[14:30.040 -> 14:31.520] After
[14:31.520 -> 14:33.640] Belgium I don't think they're too worried about that
[14:34.840 -> 14:36.440] no, and
[14:36.440 -> 14:39.360] Like they're just dunking on the whole field. Yeah, let's be honest
[14:39.360 -> 14:43.240] I that's where I was gonna go with that. You said we and you moonlight I
[14:43.760 -> 14:45.440] Yeah, sorry. It's force. you Moonlight. I, I... Yeah, sorry. It's a force of habit.
[14:45.440 -> 14:50.400] Yeah, I know. I say we in past tense, like we used to, but I never say we this weekend.
[14:50.400 -> 14:55.200] And I got into trouble on the Twitter nets about that because I'm not a sports fan.
[14:55.200 -> 15:00.800] I don't have a football club. I don't have a hand, hand, egg or a ball foot club.
[15:00.800 -> 15:02.880] Oh, you bloody American.
[15:02.880 -> 15:05.880] Yeah, so I don't like, I don't like the sports mentality.
[15:05.880 -> 15:06.560] I never have that.
[15:06.560 -> 15:09.840] So when people are talking about their club, they say we I don't get that.
[15:09.840 -> 15:14.640] And I I said, I think it's pretty weird when people do that about an F1 team.
[15:14.640 -> 15:16.200] I don't think you're weird.
[15:16.200 -> 15:18.560] I personally don't understand it.
[15:18.560 -> 15:20.800] And people got really upset about that.
[15:20.800 -> 15:23.560] But but I don't think there's anything wrong with it.
[15:23.560 -> 15:30.160] I just think it's interesting because from Formula One is kind of a team sport, but it's like this blend of a team sport
[15:30.160 -> 15:37.520] and an own sport as well. And you saw a lot of those themes coming out at the end of the race
[15:37.520 -> 15:41.200] with the Mercedes as well. So something interesting to touch on in a little bit.
[15:42.480 -> 15:46.160] Yeah. And I think, I don't know if it's a drive to survive
[15:46.160 -> 15:52.480] thing, but a lot more people now are more fans of drivers
[15:52.480 -> 15:54.560] than the team, if that makes sense.
[15:54.560 -> 15:55.480] Yeah.
[15:55.480 -> 15:58.400] Like we see it with Lewis Hamilton, Lando Norris,
[15:58.400 -> 15:59.320] all things like that.
[15:59.320 -> 16:02.160] They're all just like, well, I'm a fan of Lando, or whatever.
[16:02.160 -> 16:07.040] I don't care what team he drives for. Whereas before it was like...
[16:07.600 -> 16:08.320] You're Tifosi.
[16:08.960 -> 16:13.280] Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're Tifosi or whatever, you don't really care who's driving, it's the team.
[16:13.280 -> 16:13.520] Yeah. So...
[16:14.400 -> 16:14.960] Now I get that.
[16:14.960 -> 16:17.360] Yeah, it's a strange shift in dynamic.
[16:17.360 -> 16:22.000] Yeah, and I, like, again, I don't think there's anything wrong with it. I just, like, personally,
[16:22.000 -> 16:29.080] I don't understand it because first and foremost, I'm not really into sports in general, which is which is weird considering I spent, you
[16:29.080 -> 16:35.400] know, 10 years in a, you know, an elite motorsport series. But I'm just not really into sports.
[16:35.400 -> 16:40.400] I like engineering. I like racing. I like technology. And let's be honest, I fucking
[16:40.400 -> 16:47.160] love the drama. Oh, I don't have. Yeah., yeah. None of the hateful shit, but I enjoy the drama.
[16:47.160 -> 16:51.760] If there wasn't drama and it was like, right, everybody, Mercedes is going to one-two this
[16:51.760 -> 16:55.320] weekend, Red Bull's going to do one-two the next weekend, and Ferrari are going to continue
[16:55.320 -> 16:58.880] to fuck up for the rest of the season, I would be bored.
[16:58.880 -> 16:59.880] But I'm not.
[16:59.880 -> 17:05.000] Yeah, and I don't like the drama that's DTS manufactured.
[17:05.360 -> 17:06.760] I don't have a problem with the series.
[17:06.760 -> 17:08.240] I think it's done really well
[17:08.240 -> 17:11.920] in getting new fans into the sport and things like that.
[17:11.920 -> 17:16.920] But it has a lot of dramatized, editorialized shite in it.
[17:17.280 -> 17:18.120] And I don't know if you notice this,
[17:18.120 -> 17:20.680] this is how much of a fucking nerd I am.
[17:20.680 -> 17:23.660] But when they're doing like, oh, we're at the,
[17:23.660 -> 17:29.400] I don't know, we're at Monza for the race weekend and they cut to the garage and it's like a fucking shot of the Barcelona
[17:29.400 -> 17:32.140] garage, not the garage in Monza.
[17:32.140 -> 17:35.320] And like I say, it's a real nerdy thing, but that shit winds me up.
[17:35.320 -> 17:40.560] Dude, I've got, I've got a story on that, which, which honestly is, is heartbreaking.
[17:40.560 -> 17:46.560] So my, my claim to fame was being in the first season of Drive to Survive trailer when somebody goes
[17:46.620 -> 17:52.660] So it's like it's like 10 seconds trying somebody goes 30 seconds 30 seconds. Yeah, that was me and I was like, oh cool
[17:52.660 -> 17:53.480] I'm in the trailer
[17:53.480 -> 17:59.940] so I'll be in the first episode because 2017 was my last season on Max's cars as performance engineer and in
[18:00.400 -> 18:04.560] 2018 Hugh bird took over for me who is now a Czechos race engineer
[18:04.640 -> 18:04.840] 2018, Hugh Bird took over for me, who is now Checo's race engineer.
[18:07.480 -> 18:07.720] But Hugh, I think, was having a kid.
[18:10.840 -> 18:11.040] So I filled in for Melbourne, which is fantastic, right?
[18:13.440 -> 18:14.560] So I got to go to Melbourne, one of my favorite places in the world to go visit for the race.
[18:15.680 -> 18:18.520] And then I go to watch the drive to survive of that season.
[18:18.960 -> 18:21.920] And all the garage shots have Hugh in them.
[18:21.920 -> 18:24.440] I'm like, what? I was there.
[18:24.440 -> 18:25.680] Hugh wasn't there. That was you know, that was Bahrain or whatever it was the next week. And they're showing garage shots have Hugh in them. I'm like, what? I was there. Hugh wasn't there. That was,
[18:25.680 -> 18:28.880] you know, that was Bahrain or whatever it was the next week. And they're showing garage shots.
[18:28.880 -> 18:32.720] And I was like, you guys robbed me. You guys absolutely robbed me. So I need them to pay me
[18:32.720 -> 18:38.560] at some point for the mental damage that I inflicted upon myself because of stupid expectations. But
[18:38.560 -> 18:45.360] realistically, last season didn't need any manufactured drama. It was all there.
[18:45.360 -> 18:48.560] Like who, like making up these weird narratives about teammates hating each other.
[18:48.560 -> 18:50.560] It's like, nobody does that.
[18:50.560 -> 18:51.560] No, no.
[18:51.560 -> 18:53.640] And it's, yeah, you're right.
[18:53.640 -> 19:00.080] Last season was easily one of the best seasons we've had probably, I think, since Nico Rosberg
[19:00.080 -> 19:02.000] and Hamilton went toe to toe.
[19:02.000 -> 19:03.000] Yeah, exactly.
[19:03.000 -> 19:04.320] That was, that was a bunch of shit house.
[19:04.320 -> 19:05.440] And I was, I was loving it. Oh, hell Yeah, exactly. That was a bunch of shithouse and I was loving it.
[19:06.080 -> 19:11.120] Oh, hell yeah. Yeah, it was a beautiful thing. And it was all going so well until
[19:12.240 -> 19:19.200] a little race called Abu Dhabi. Yeah. And then that was it. Now everything's ruined.
[19:19.200 -> 19:25.000] Fixed. It's F1 next. War crimes and things like that.
[19:25.000 -> 19:26.000] Yeah.
[19:26.000 -> 19:29.000] I don't want to touch that with a barge pole, mate.
[19:29.000 -> 19:30.000] No, fuck that.
[19:30.000 -> 19:31.000] I'm not interested.
[19:31.000 -> 19:32.000] We've done that.
[19:32.000 -> 19:33.000] I'm off.
[19:33.000 -> 19:35.000] Anyway, thanks for coming to the podcast.
[19:35.000 -> 19:40.000] This is going to get cancelled already because we even dared mention the controversy of that
[19:40.000 -> 19:41.000] event.
[19:41.000 -> 19:48.160] But yeah, so back to the Netherlands, we've got Red Bull looking a little bit sketchy
[19:48.160 -> 19:52.940] on Friday, and honestly, their pace look, it's like what's happening. My favorite thing
[19:52.940 -> 19:58.960] was some classic shithousery on Twitter, obviously, it's like, huh? I forgot who it was. Doesn't
[19:58.960 -> 20:02.080] matter who it was. It's like, it's funny seeing Red Bull running a legal floor. And they were
[20:02.080 -> 20:05.120] often like Max was down in like six or seven or fifth or something.
[20:05.120 -> 20:06.960] And they were fairly far off the pace.
[20:06.960 -> 20:12.040] You're thinking, hell, did these new regulations actually do anything or what's Sunday like
[20:12.040 -> 20:15.400] at the end of the day, Saturday, one lap pace.
[20:15.400 -> 20:16.400] That's important.
[20:16.400 -> 20:18.600] And then Sunday where you finish, that's important.
[20:18.600 -> 20:23.360] Friday run plans like high fuel runs and like, oh, the pace and their deg is a bit like this.
[20:23.360 -> 20:26.960] It's like, come on, that's completely bullshit information.
[20:26.960 -> 20:30.260] And the teams are even struggling to pick the bones out of that stuff.
[20:30.460 -> 20:32.700] There's so many filters and everything else they're applying.
[20:32.700 -> 20:33.100] So it's like,
[20:34.200 -> 20:37.400] I guess the moral of that story is don't set your hopes up
[20:37.400 -> 20:39.460] based on Friday because Friday is a lie.
[20:39.800 -> 20:40.600] There is no Friday.
[20:40.600 -> 20:41.900] I don't mean Jack.
[20:41.900 -> 20:44.160] No. How many points is a long day?
[20:44.240 -> 20:45.360] How many points you get for Friday?
[20:46.800 -> 20:52.320] Uh, zero. Is that the same as IndyCar super license points as well? Zero.
[20:54.640 -> 21:00.720] Now, right, so you've now managed to get us cancelled by all the British bias by mentioning
[21:00.720 -> 21:08.500] Avid Avid. Mind you, that was me to be fair. And now we're going to get cancelled in America because you dare make a comment about IndyCar.
[21:08.500 -> 21:15.820] Well, I'm just saying that these stuck up European people, whoever they may be, are
[21:15.820 -> 21:20.860] not allowing IndyCar. They're giving him the same amount of superlicense points as like
[21:20.860 -> 21:27.200] F3. I'm like, come on, man. You've got you've got a bunch of like, you know, probably 17
[21:27.200 -> 21:35.340] 18 year old kids in a feeder series or you've got grown ass, you know, young young guys
[21:35.340 -> 21:39.060] and up to grown ass men in IndyCar.
[21:39.060 -> 21:42.680] And it's like now now you're getting F3 points for your super license.
[21:42.680 -> 21:44.240] Mate, sorry, but yeah.
[21:44.240 -> 21:49.920] So I have to admit, right, I don't, I'm not really into IndyCar, I've never watched it,
[21:49.920 -> 21:54.320] I don't, I don't really understand, you know, how it all works out. But I did see an interesting
[21:54.320 -> 21:59.920] comment on Twitter or a suggestion, and I can't remember who it was, but they said that if you
[21:59.920 -> 22:05.600] win the Indy 500, you should get an automatic super license. What do you think about that?
[22:06.720 -> 22:12.160] That's nuts. The same should be true of the Le Mans 24-hour.
[22:13.440 -> 22:18.640] But the points you get on your super license for Le Mans are much greater aren't they?
[22:18.640 -> 22:26.400] Ah, but I believe they are. The Indy 500's like, I don't want to say this in the wrong way, but the Indy 500 is just
[22:26.400 -> 22:27.400] another race.
[22:27.400 -> 22:33.560] You know, it's just, it's just, I mean, it's a huge race and it has much bigger impact
[22:33.560 -> 22:37.840] on their championship, but should you get it?
[22:37.840 -> 22:39.640] Have you had any spares when that?
[22:39.640 -> 22:41.240] I don't know.
[22:41.240 -> 22:46.080] No, I mean, like, I mean, Rossi left, left for Cindy or not left Formula One.
[22:46.080 -> 22:47.560] And you're thinking he was in man.
[22:47.560 -> 22:50.680] I wasn't even like a few races for manner.
[22:50.680 -> 22:52.240] He was in one of the back market cars.
[22:52.240 -> 22:54.080] It's really hard to get a judge of that.
[22:54.080 -> 22:58.880] And he rocks up and he's been a weapon in IndyCar and a weapon in the 500 every time
[22:58.880 -> 22:59.880] that I bother watching.
[22:59.880 -> 23:03.320] But the other thing is, how the hell do you watch IndyCar in the UK?
[23:03.320 -> 23:06.640] And to be honest, like Formula 1 and my brand of
[23:06.640 -> 23:11.040] doing Formula 1 content is so insanely time consuming, I don't even have time to wipe my ass,
[23:11.040 -> 23:17.280] man. I was like, do you want to watch Formula? He's like, I would love to, but can you pay me
[23:17.280 -> 23:21.440] a video editor and everything else and somebody to write Python code for me? Because-
[23:21.440 -> 23:25.000] Yeah, you're preaching to the choir there, mate. I've got a wife and three children for Christ's sake. You're lucky you're getting an hour with me now. I know, I am lucky.
[23:25.000 -> 23:26.000] And an hour later, but that's off air.
[23:26.000 -> 23:27.000] Yeah.
[23:27.000 -> 23:28.000] Yeah, okay, cool.
[23:28.000 -> 23:29.000] I was just making sure that was still on the cards.
[23:29.000 -> 23:30.000] Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[23:30.000 -> 23:31.000] I won't edit that out.
[23:31.000 -> 23:32.000] I'll keep that in.
[23:32.000 -> 23:33.000] Cool.
[23:33.000 -> 23:34.000] Thank you.
[23:34.000 -> 23:35.000] Big kisses.
[23:35.000 -> 23:36.000] But yeah, so...
[23:36.000 -> 23:37.000] Enough about Andy Karm.
[23:37.000 -> 23:38.000] Yeah, now we've alienated our American audience.
[23:38.000 -> 23:39.000] Love you guys.
[23:39.000 -> 23:40.000] On Twitter.
[23:40.000 -> 23:41.000] On Instagram.
[23:41.000 -> 23:42.000] On Facebook.
[23:42.000 -> 23:43.000] On Instagram.
[23:43.000 -> 23:44.000] On Facebook.
[23:44.000 -> 23:45.000] On Instagram. On Facebook. On Facebook. On Facebook. On Facebook. Big kisses. But yeah, so, enough about Andy Karm.
[23:45.000 -> 23:51.280] Yeah, now we've alienated our American audience on episode one.
[23:51.280 -> 23:55.760] Raise hell, praise Dale, and all that shit.
[23:55.760 -> 23:56.760] Get her done.
[23:56.760 -> 23:57.760] Get her done.
[23:57.760 -> 23:59.680] Get her done.
[23:59.680 -> 24:04.600] So yeah, Friday we had the Max Gearbox issue, and like you say, the Red Bulls looked slightly
[24:04.600 -> 24:05.280] off pace, but Friday's Friday, we had the Max Gearbox issue. And like you say, the Red Bulls looked slightly off pace,
[24:05.280 -> 24:07.640] but Friday's Friday, man.
[24:07.640 -> 24:10.600] Like you say, run plans, none of that means anything.
[24:10.600 -> 24:14.280] We get to qualifying, and I was surprised
[24:14.280 -> 24:17.320] at how quick the tranc ramped up
[24:17.320 -> 24:19.440] towards the end of the session.
[24:19.440 -> 24:21.640] Did you find that surprising?
[24:21.640 -> 24:23.880] A little bit, but honestly,
[24:23.880 -> 24:26.320] I was still coming back from my holiday and I was
[24:26.320 -> 24:32.720] watching qualifying, I believe from a train station on my phone with my dad.
[24:32.720 -> 24:34.400] So OK, so I did.
[24:34.400 -> 24:39.320] I did kind of miss out on all the juice, so.
[24:39.320 -> 24:40.760] I didn't write first episode.
[24:40.760 -> 24:41.760] Yeah, great for you.
[24:41.760 -> 24:43.840] But yeah, F1 technical analysis.
[24:43.840 -> 24:47.480] So what do you think of qualifying? He's like, actually, I didn't watch it.
[24:47.480 -> 24:52.320] That's super anxiety inducing, taking time off from content and watching Formula One,
[24:52.320 -> 24:56.700] because if I don't have Formula One, my life is empty and I need to attach myself entirely
[24:56.700 -> 24:59.880] to the sport in order for validation.
[24:59.880 -> 25:03.800] So yeah, I'm actually pretty damn bad, mate.
[25:03.800 -> 25:05.900] Understandable and I won't judge you for that.
[25:05.900 -> 25:06.400] I appreciate it.
[25:06.400 -> 25:07.400] We're all friends here.
[25:07.400 -> 25:07.900] Yeah.
[25:08.200 -> 25:13.300] But there was, there was a, if we're going to talk, are you about to talk about what I think we're about to talk about?
[25:14.100 -> 25:16.900] Well, I was just going to give a quick rundown of who we lost in Q1.
[25:16.900 -> 25:17.300] Yeah.
[25:17.300 -> 25:20.900] So Latifi, I don't think that was too surprising.
[25:22.000 -> 25:26.240] Vettel, kind of surprising, but he did have his little adventure, didn't he,
[25:26.240 -> 25:32.800] into the gravel? Yeah, just making sure that the gravel trap was safe, you know? Yeah. And
[25:33.600 -> 25:38.400] K-Mag, I found that surprising. That was, Haas is an up and down man, though. Haas is one of those
[25:38.400 -> 25:48.000] midfield teams where you're just like, who hurt you? You know, let's roll the dice, let's see where we're going to end up this weekend.
[25:48.000 -> 25:55.000] Daniel Ricciardo, now I'm going to get into this a bit later.
[25:55.000 -> 26:00.440] I was watching qualifying from a go-karting track, to be honest, so I wasn't really paying
[26:00.440 -> 26:04.000] a huge amount of attention.
[26:04.000 -> 26:06.600] Who did you put off the track in karting, by the way?
[26:06.600 -> 26:08.800] Oh my God, no one.
[26:08.800 -> 26:10.800] I was so fucking slow.
[26:10.800 -> 26:16.320] Like, for people that are all here only have never seen me, I am powerfully built, let's
[26:16.320 -> 26:17.320] just say.
[26:17.320 -> 26:18.320] Right?
[26:18.320 -> 26:19.320] Bit of a lab.
[26:19.320 -> 26:21.120] I haven't got, no, I don't have a racer's body.
[26:21.120 -> 26:23.840] I'm built for comfort, not speed.
[26:23.840 -> 26:27.440] So yeah, it was, I was putting
[26:27.440 -> 26:29.480] in some solid Latifi lap times.
[26:29.480 -> 26:31.280] I got you, brother. I got you.
[26:31.280 -> 26:38.240] Yeah. So yeah, Danny Rick hit the dirt, I think, that Sebastian Vettel unceremoniously
[26:38.240 -> 26:46.200] dumped on the track. So he only ended up P17, which is probably, you know, Danny Rick is going through it at
[26:46.200 -> 26:47.200] the minute.
[26:47.200 -> 26:49.800] Yeah, F's in the chat for Danny.
[26:49.800 -> 26:52.200] Yeah, F's in the chat for Danny.
[26:52.200 -> 26:53.200] Crikey.
[26:53.200 -> 26:58.680] I feel bad for the dude, honestly, because it's just been like, he comes off like this
[26:58.680 -> 27:05.380] dude who's a joker and not serious, but in the car. The dude locks it in, man,
[27:05.380 -> 27:07.040] he said he switches something off
[27:07.040 -> 27:08.920] and like people just see this like goofy
[27:08.920 -> 27:10.420] laughing guy who's always smiling,
[27:10.420 -> 27:11.920] you know, the characters of him,
[27:11.920 -> 27:12.960] you know, it's like
[27:12.960 -> 27:13.880] you can't stop smiling.
[27:13.880 -> 27:14.720] Yeah, you can't, but like.
[27:15.600 -> 27:17.020] He's a super passionate dude
[27:17.020 -> 27:18.560] and seeing him struggling right now
[27:18.880 -> 27:20.560] is super tough, honestly,
[27:20.560 -> 27:21.180] because it's like
[27:21.260 -> 27:22.900] imagine you woke up one day.
[27:24.260 -> 27:25.600] And you were shit at your job like I know what that feels like, because I wake like imagine you woke up one day and you were
[27:25.600 -> 27:30.520] Shit at your job. Like I know what that feels like because I wake up like that every day. Yeah, I was gonna say
[27:31.240 -> 27:35.840] We know that feeling well, yeah, but like your feedback mechanism is telling you hey
[27:37.460 -> 27:44.120] You're not very good at your job and you're like, but I was last year, you know, I was I was reasonable and like
[27:42.000 -> 27:44.000] But I was last year. I was reasonable and like,
[27:44.000 -> 27:46.000] one race is like,
[27:46.000 -> 27:48.000] what's going on?
[27:48.000 -> 27:50.000] So that's a tough one to unpack for
[27:50.000 -> 27:52.000] us as fans.
[27:52.000 -> 27:54.000] But you see it,
[27:54.000 -> 27:56.000] drivers come and drivers go.
[27:56.000 -> 27:58.000] So Daniel, properly going through it right now.
[27:58.000 -> 28:00.000] Yeah, and I don't know if you've
[28:00.000 -> 28:02.000] seen this, but he was caught on
[28:02.000 -> 28:04.000] I can't remember if it was
[28:04.000 -> 28:06.000] one of the team,
[28:11.760 -> 28:17.680] you know, they do those debrief videos or whatever, they let out on the internet. And I think one of the microphones picked up, he was talking to maybe, I don't know who it was now, he was talking to one
[28:17.680 -> 28:27.200] of the drivers and he basically said he's going to sit out 2023. So, which I think, where would he even go? I don't even know. I don't know.
[28:28.480 -> 28:34.080] Haas? But he doesn't strike me as the sort of person that just wants to sit.
[28:34.880 -> 28:38.720] Yeah, I think he wanted to show up and Louis Hamilton a team.
[28:39.920 -> 28:41.760] Yeah, and it hasn't worked.
[28:41.760 -> 28:46.120] No, it hasn't worked. But like, honestly, if if I was struggling and
[28:47.120 -> 28:50.160] Somebody paid me 15 million to fuck off or whatever that number is
[28:50.560 -> 28:54.280] I'd be a little bit down, but I've had bad days before you know
[28:54.840 -> 29:01.760] Yeah, you'd have 15 million reasons not to cry. Yeah, some expensive tissues. That's for sure. Hmm
[29:03.120 -> 29:07.280] But I wonder if we're gonna see him make a jump to some sort of American series or
[29:07.280 -> 29:08.280] something.
[29:08.280 -> 29:09.280] I don't know.
[29:09.280 -> 29:13.200] But the man doesn't strike me as someone that's ready to leave the motorsport world.
[29:13.200 -> 29:16.360] No, he's got plenty in the tank.
[29:16.360 -> 29:17.360] Yeah.
[29:17.360 -> 29:20.920] So, yeah, shame for him.
[29:20.920 -> 29:24.920] And then who unceremoniously gets the title of being the other person out in Q1?
[29:24.920 -> 29:25.800] Oh, Valtteri Bottas.
[29:25.800 -> 29:29.840] They've, they've, they've, the Alfa Romeo is another one, man.
[29:29.840 -> 29:32.360] It's like, what are they going, are they going to be legendary this weekend?
[29:32.360 -> 29:33.480] Are they going to be trash?
[29:33.480 -> 29:34.680] Like what's going on?
[29:34.680 -> 29:39.760] And I feel like a lot of those, those midfield cars struggle so much with tires.
[29:39.760 -> 29:42.920] And if they have crap down for us, it's like, do we get the tires working this weekend?
[29:42.920 -> 29:45.560] Well, let's try to heat them up a lot or let's try to cool them down
[29:45.560 -> 29:47.700] and we're lost in this new compound.
[29:47.700 -> 29:50.780] It's just like, imagine you're on that team or you're one of those drivers
[29:50.780 -> 29:52.300] thinking you're just going to roll the dice.
[29:52.300 -> 29:54.340] Even Lewis made some comments about the car.
[29:54.340 -> 29:57.120] He's like, I don't know what I'm going to get when I show up.
[29:57.380 -> 30:00.280] It's like you have to go to a new track and figure out
[30:00.280 -> 30:02.120] what side of the bed your car woke up on.
[30:02.120 -> 30:05.280] You hop in, you're like, oh, this is going to be a tough
[30:05.280 -> 30:12.880] weekend. I'm, yeah. Yeah. And we'll, I'm going to come back to that Mercedes in a minute. Um, how dare
[30:12.880 -> 30:22.320] you? Yeah. And actually, no, let's do it now. So I was extremely surprised at how different or how,
[30:22.320 -> 30:26.360] how quicker that Mercedes was in this race than it was in Spa.
[30:26.360 -> 30:31.120] Yeah. It was like night and day. Absolutely. And I wonder if it's related
[30:31.120 -> 30:35.840] to the ride height. I think there's something definitely in that. You've got
[30:35.840 -> 30:41.400] a, you know, a nearly Monza-esque circuit of Spa to everybody putting the barn
[30:41.400 -> 30:45.720] doors on the back of the car to get the maximum downforce.
[30:45.720 -> 30:49.880] You know, you've got a bigger ride height range that you need to accommodate in spa.
[30:49.880 -> 30:52.560] There's lots of compression, lots of bumps.
[30:52.560 -> 30:57.360] And then, you know, the Zandvoort, you know, it's in its pretty wacky circuit as well with
[30:57.360 -> 31:00.200] some interesting quirks like the banked corners and everything else.
[31:00.200 -> 31:03.560] But there's something about that car.
[31:03.560 -> 31:07.760] I was surprised how close they were, because I think that was the closest
[31:07.760 -> 31:12.160] they've been on a dry qualifying session to the front, with the exception of Hungary.
[31:13.240 -> 31:16.200] Hungary was that wire when when George
[31:17.000 -> 31:20.160] George stonked it up there, but you know, with the exception of that,
[31:20.280 -> 31:24.120] that looked like to me looking at the pace from everybody else
[31:24.120 -> 31:27.440] that looked like Ferrari and Red Bull dropped the ball whereas
[31:28.720 -> 31:31.520] Zandvoort looked like legit
[31:32.680 -> 31:40.040] Mercedes pulling pulling one out so and then and then extrapolating further. I'm sure we'll talk about it plenty is Sunday
[31:40.520 -> 31:44.960] That was a strong Sunday, and it left us some very interesting questions at the end of that race
[31:44.760 -> 31:45.760] That was a strong Sunday and it left us some very interesting questions at the end of that race.
[31:45.760 -> 31:48.080] How else can Ferrari fuck it up?
[31:48.080 -> 31:50.120] Oh wait, that was not the question I was thinking of, sorry.
[31:50.120 -> 31:51.120] That's another question.
[31:51.120 -> 31:53.120] Oh, well, these are two good questions.
[31:53.120 -> 31:56.200] And we'll get into that for sure.
[31:56.200 -> 31:57.200] Okay, good.
[31:57.200 -> 32:03.200] So, Q2, Albon, Gouin-Giou, Fernando Alonso, Esteban Ocon, Pierre Gasly.
[32:03.200 -> 32:05.520] I don't think there's any major surprises there.
[32:05.520 -> 32:07.400] It's the usual suspects, wasn't it?
[32:07.400 -> 32:08.400] Yeah.
[32:08.400 -> 32:12.400] And then, but into Q3, Lance Stroll.
[32:12.400 -> 32:15.400] That is, that was a surprise and a half.
[32:15.400 -> 32:18.400] When I did watch it, I was like, the timing screen's broken.
[32:18.400 -> 32:23.800] But like, to be fair, to be fair of, you know, the guys that you,
[32:23.800 -> 32:26.120] people like, ah, they don't deserve to be in from the one like
[32:26.720 -> 32:27.760] honestly
[32:27.760 -> 32:32.200] Lance has become a very reasonable mid-tier driver in my opinion
[32:32.400 -> 32:39.160] Yeah, like I don't at first you're thinking always dad's bought a team and all this shit, but like he's done the work
[32:39.320 -> 32:40.280] he's
[32:40.280 -> 32:45.520] You know he's grinded and elevated his level and now he's in the mix, honestly.
[32:45.520 -> 32:46.520] Like, I...
[32:46.520 -> 32:52.280] Yeah, it'd be interesting to see that dynamic with Alonso next year.
[32:52.280 -> 32:53.280] That's going to be weird.
[32:53.280 -> 32:54.280] Yeah.
[32:54.280 -> 32:55.280] Hell yeah.
[32:55.280 -> 33:00.480] I mean, Alonso was one of those drivers who was brutal.
[33:00.480 -> 33:04.080] Like what he did to Van Dorn, that was pretty rough.
[33:04.080 -> 33:07.820] Yeah. He's out there collecting teams like infinity stones
[33:09.540 -> 33:11.900] But like honestly man like I
[33:12.500 -> 33:18.940] Mean, I think at some point we might actually see Lawrence and Fernando fistfight in the paddock. Oh
[33:19.980 -> 33:23.000] Yeah, I'm like down for this. This could be a bar fight
[33:23.980 -> 33:29.520] He's gonna be drinking a glass of red wine in this gloves are coming off these all these new light
[33:30.000 -> 33:36.220] YouTube influencers boxing each other. Yeah, do you think I like the Christmas party asked a mine we can get like a
[33:37.040 -> 33:39.040] stroll versus
[33:39.080 -> 33:45.160] Honestly, so and the good thing about Formula One and drive to Survive now is something that Tony, my
[33:45.160 -> 33:50.460] friend Tony, F1 Tony always harps on about is do not forget the influencers that have
[33:50.460 -> 33:52.720] helped elevate the sport and expand.
[33:52.720 -> 33:56.520] You know, teams don't know about or they're just now getting involved in this.
[33:56.520 -> 34:01.880] At some point, if there is that boxing match, Engine Mode 11 will be announcing that fight
[34:01.880 -> 34:03.880] between Lawrence and Fernando Alonso.
[34:03.880 -> 34:05.120] That boxing match is going to
[34:05.120 -> 34:09.040] be epic. And honestly... I don't know if I've got the voice for that though. People say I've got
[34:09.040 -> 34:13.920] like quite an ASMR voice. Yeah. So that's that's the problem with this podcast. We can only do an
[34:13.920 -> 34:17.920] hour because any longer than that I think we're gonna... oh my voice is gonna set people to sleep.
[34:17.920 -> 34:22.800] Yeah. People are gonna fall asleep to this podcast. Yeah. But what about this?
[34:22.800 -> 34:25.880] Or what about this? Oh yeah that's much better. Thank you. I won't
[34:25.880 -> 34:32.000] use the go X alarm. But yeah, like I think Alonzo is one of those people who is cutthroat
[34:32.000 -> 34:37.160] and brutal and he wants nothing but to win and putting him in that environment where,
[34:37.160 -> 34:41.240] you know, potentially Lance will have favor and everything else. And if they got upgrades
[34:41.240 -> 34:48.080] and only Lance gets them, I see Alonso going absolutely mental.
[34:48.080 -> 34:49.200] It's going to be chaos and drama.
[34:49.200 -> 34:53.160] And if you're looking for any drive to survive drama to fabricate next season, don't worry
[34:53.160 -> 34:54.160] about it.
[34:54.160 -> 34:55.160] We got you covered.
[34:55.160 -> 34:58.200] Yeah, they're probably not going to have to fabricate it.
[34:58.200 -> 34:59.200] Like the bonus.
[34:59.200 -> 35:01.200] No editing, just put it out there.
[35:01.200 -> 35:02.200] Oh my God.
[35:02.200 -> 35:06.440] Yeah, we'll just upload the race in the Aston Martin motorhome.
[35:06.440 -> 35:07.440] Exactly.
[35:07.440 -> 35:14.720] But yeah, I got a lot of time for the strolls purely because they effectively saved a lot
[35:14.720 -> 35:18.680] of people their jobs with the whole racing behind it and things like that.
[35:18.680 -> 35:21.680] The thing going Boston, going into administration.
[35:21.680 -> 35:26.720] That was one of those things that sucked is like like there were people not getting paid, man.
[35:26.720 -> 35:30.840] Imagine that like you you pour your life and soul into a sport that you love.
[35:30.840 -> 35:34.480] And like it's not in forking and Formula One's not a normal job.
[35:34.480 -> 35:36.920] You know that everybody wants to do it.
[35:36.920 -> 35:40.360] You could probably leave that job and make a better paycheck somewhere else for less
[35:40.360 -> 35:41.360] hours.
[35:41.360 -> 35:44.680] But there's so many people there's so damn passionate about the sport.
[35:44.680 -> 35:47.600] And you know, they're like, yeah, we're going through a bit of a hard time.
[35:47.800 -> 35:49.000] Can I pay you next month?
[35:49.000 -> 35:50.560] And you're like, oh, my God.
[35:50.560 -> 35:52.360] Instone went through the same thing.
[35:52.360 -> 35:55.600] Reno, which is now Alpine, they went through a dark age
[35:55.600 -> 36:00.280] and they bled a lot of staff, but the strolls come back on board
[36:00.440 -> 36:03.720] and they're poaching a lot of high profile people from other teams,
[36:03.760 -> 36:06.880] giving them bags. So uh very true
[36:06.880 -> 36:08.920] That is some fellows. Yeah
[36:09.600 -> 36:13.040] He's over there now. I got a lot of time. Yeah, I got a lot of time for Dan as well
[36:13.040 -> 36:17.540] But uh, yeah, they're taking they're making moves and they're taking people and they're they're investing
[36:17.800 -> 36:21.760] But it will be interesting to see if Aston
[36:22.520 -> 36:26.840] Can make a move because this year new make a move. Because this year, new regulation change, big shakeup.
[36:26.840 -> 36:29.440] This year, I think, has been very disappointing for them.
[36:29.440 -> 36:32.520] And I was expecting more.
[36:32.520 -> 36:35.520] But new team, new thing.
[36:35.520 -> 36:37.160] It looks like they've taken a slight step backwards,
[36:37.160 -> 36:38.200] doesn't it, really?
[36:38.200 -> 36:40.280] Yeah.
[36:40.280 -> 36:44.080] And it's weird as well, because although we joke about it,
[36:44.080 -> 36:46.000] how much the car looks like the RV-18,
[36:47.120 -> 36:49.520] it couldn't be any further from the truth in terms of pace.
[36:49.520 -> 36:51.760] Matthew Fletcher Yeah. I think I heard it
[36:51.760 -> 36:55.520] phrased this way. I think it might have been from Matt O'Brien from Red Flags. It was basically like
[36:56.160 -> 37:00.320] you copied the homework, but you didn't understand the assignment kind of thing.
[37:00.320 -> 37:01.040] And I feel like-
[37:01.040 -> 37:01.760] Oh, yeah, yeah.
[37:01.760 -> 37:04.480] Matthew Fletcher I think that's completely plausible. It's
[37:04.480 -> 37:08.960] like you see some philosophies and you hypothesize hypothesize and you probably know what they're
[37:08.960 -> 37:13.840] doing but you know all the other bits and pieces that support the aerodynamics or the suspension
[37:13.840 -> 37:18.480] everything else you've missed the you know the subtle thing which makes that car come alive and
[37:19.200 -> 37:23.520] they've been on this freaking struggle bus like I think how many races in a row is this where
[37:23.520 -> 37:26.320] you hear Seb like oh we're out in Q1?
[37:26.760 -> 37:27.640] Oh, it can't be.
[37:27.640 -> 37:31.040] It's like I swear to God, they're just playing
[37:31.080 -> 37:33.160] the exact same radio message every weekend.
[37:33.200 -> 37:37.240] So it sucks to see his last season in the sport with him,
[37:37.720 -> 37:39.680] with him, you know.
[37:39.680 -> 37:42.760] Being a world champion and then in a team, new regs
[37:43.000 -> 37:45.400] and on the struggle bus, honestly.
[37:47.680 -> 37:47.840] Going out with a whimper rather than a bang.
[37:48.520 -> 37:49.160] Exactly.
[37:49.640 -> 37:49.680] Yeah.
[37:50.160 -> 37:54.520] There's still time. Anyway, that's what we think about Aston Martin, which, you know, slots
[37:54.520 -> 37:56.760] perfectly well into our discussion about Q3.
[37:56.800 -> 37:57.120] Yeah.
[37:57.400 -> 38:02.240] Um, so yeah, a lot of struggle to Q3, but didn't go out for a run.
[38:02.280 -> 38:04.600] I think there was an issue with the car or maybe they just
[38:04.600 -> 38:05.480] thought we'll just save the
[38:05.480 -> 38:06.480] tire.
[38:06.480 -> 38:09.120] I'm not sure on that one.
[38:09.120 -> 38:10.480] Yuki in ninth.
[38:10.480 -> 38:11.880] Mick in eighth.
[38:11.880 -> 38:12.880] Mick Schumacher.
[38:12.880 -> 38:15.080] That one slipped under the radar for me, man.
[38:15.080 -> 38:16.440] Honestly, that slipped under the radar for me.
[38:16.440 -> 38:19.160] I was like, wait, what's what's going on here?
[38:19.160 -> 38:26.000] We keep I didn't hear too much of the the social media giving him on the big horn this weekend though.
[38:26.560 -> 38:31.520] It kind of like, yeah, we went through back around Austria like,
[38:31.520 -> 38:36.320] Mick's back, he's a new driver. Then he kind of like, I'm driving a horse and it's kind of all
[38:36.320 -> 38:41.680] over the shop. So I'm not really... Yeah, I think the first half of the season,
[38:42.960 -> 38:48.680] I would have said, well, in fact, no, I would not would have said I have said that he had the looks of Michael
[38:48.680 -> 38:50.680] But the talent of Ralph. Yeah
[38:51.240 -> 38:57.780] Whereas now, you know the second half of the season. He does seem to be improving. Yeah, so
[38:58.560 -> 39:08.480] But dropped apparently supposedly dropped from the Ferrari driver Academy. So I don't know if that means he's getting the boot out of F1. Yeah, what? I don't know. We'll see.
[39:09.440 -> 39:13.440] That was, that was surprising. So he was kind of in the mix, but like in terms of pace,
[39:13.440 -> 39:16.080] it was in that no man's land really, wasn't it?
[39:17.600 -> 39:27.280] Yeah. Yeah. George Russell in sixth. Again, you know, George being George solid. Sergio in fifth hmm.
[39:27.280 -> 39:32.440] I don't think he was too thrilled about that he's three quarters of a second off max.
[39:32.440 -> 39:36.720] Different floors as well yeah they're still running a different floor.
[39:36.720 -> 39:41.320] And he didn't get his final lap in and then the alarm buzzes and everybody's tinfoil hat
[39:41.320 -> 39:42.880] starts tingling pretty hard.
[39:42.880 -> 39:46.160] Oh yes of course because I'm sorry, I forgot Marko was on the radio
[39:46.160 -> 39:48.400] telling him to stick it in the gravel, didn't he?
[39:48.400 -> 39:49.900] Yeah, exactly.
[39:49.900 -> 39:51.400] Yes, to protect Max.
[39:51.400 -> 39:52.800] Yeah, sorry, I forgot about that.
[39:52.800 -> 39:54.800] How many points do you get for pole position?
[39:56.500 -> 39:58.700] You get zero.
[39:58.700 -> 39:59.800] Yeah, I think that's it.
[39:59.800 -> 40:00.600] Yeah.
[40:03.000 -> 40:14.200] Yes, Sergio V, Louis IV, Carlos III, Charles II, and of course, Dutch superstar Max Verstappen on a pole.
[40:14.200 -> 40:17.480] But very tight, I think, Q3.
[40:17.480 -> 40:19.560] A couple of hundreds between the two.
[40:19.560 -> 40:21.960] Yeah, that could have been anyone's, to be fair.
[40:21.960 -> 40:22.840] Honestly, yeah.
[40:22.840 -> 40:26.040] It's crazy seeing that in terms of performance and everything
[40:26.040 -> 40:29.800] There's you know, the Ferrari which is a lot of downforce not too slippy in a straight line
[40:30.360 -> 40:32.520] It's got huge braking performance
[40:32.960 -> 40:39.760] Great traction and then the Red Bull who's this kind of like super slippy beast the Red Bull looks like the Mercedes of years past
[40:39.760 -> 40:42.440] It's like and how the hell are they so fast in a straight line?
[40:43.680 -> 40:47.300] But yeah, Leclerc and Sainz pretty close this weekend.
[40:47.300 -> 40:49.180] Russell a little bit off of Hamilton.
[40:49.180 -> 40:52.980] Perez, I think Perez is back on the struggle bus and people keep spinning
[40:52.980 -> 40:53.980] the narrative like that.
[40:53.980 -> 40:56.180] They're developing the car for Max.
[40:56.180 -> 41:00.440] And I feel like in developing a car, you're just trying to add performance
[41:00.440 -> 41:01.640] overall to the car.
[41:01.640 -> 41:04.660] Then you get to the track and you dial as much front end in the thing
[41:04.820 -> 41:05.400] as you can
[41:05.400 -> 41:08.980] take. And, uh, Max, I think can take quite a bit more,
[41:09.520 -> 41:14.020] but that's been like that qualifying tally has been pretty much shut down since
[41:14.040 -> 41:15.240] Monaco. Hasn't it?
[41:16.380 -> 41:19.940] Yeah. But who is going to be close to Max?
[41:20.260 -> 41:22.300] Honestly, I think that's one of those things. I think,
[41:22.700 -> 41:31.840] I think the car is pretty damn good. I think it's still the second fastest car. I maybe maybe something maybe for I've been knocked by the technical directive that came in from spa
[41:32.880 -> 41:37.760] because their qualifying was strong their race looked abysmal for an
[41:38.640 -> 41:44.200] assortment of reasons I don't think you have enough time to go through all the reasons their race looked bad, but uh
[41:50.080 -> 41:51.080] Something about something about that bull this year, man. She's quick.
[41:51.080 -> 41:52.320] Yeah, she is quick.
[41:52.320 -> 41:56.000] I heard they don't have to run any ethanol, so they can basically run E0.
[41:56.000 -> 41:57.320] Everybody else has to run E10.
[41:57.320 -> 41:58.320] Here we go.
[41:58.320 -> 41:59.320] I heard it on the internet.
[41:59.320 -> 42:01.600] E10 foil hats out, ladies and gentlemen.
[42:01.600 -> 42:02.600] We're off again.
[42:02.600 -> 42:03.600] I heard it on Twitter.
[42:03.600 -> 42:07.040] Oh yes, the paragon of truth. That is F1 Twitter.
[42:07.040 -> 42:16.560] Oh, get out. So Max has won 10 races this season already, which I was surprised it was 10. I didn't
[42:16.560 -> 42:23.680] think about it. Four in a row. We've got what, seven races left and the record is 13
[42:22.720 -> 42:26.320] We've got, what, seven races left? And the record is 13 wins in a season.
[42:26.320 -> 42:28.840] Are we taking that record this year?
[42:28.840 -> 42:29.840] We?
[42:29.840 -> 42:31.720] They might be, I'm not sure if we are.
[42:31.720 -> 42:33.320] I'm not into any Grand Prix's.
[42:33.320 -> 42:41.720] Right, well, if you didn't know, this podcast is actually funded personally by Dr. Marco
[42:41.720 -> 42:47.480] to spread and diffuse all rumors in the F1 world.
[42:47.480 -> 42:48.480] Hence the we.
[42:48.480 -> 42:52.880] Wait, yeah, sorry, you can't get out of that, can you?
[42:52.880 -> 42:58.880] I think I would honestly be surprised if it did not happen.
[42:58.880 -> 43:04.120] The you know, we saw what happened with this high downforce track.
[43:04.120 -> 43:05.760] Mercedes getting close. I think Mercedes...
[43:07.600 -> 43:12.000] Yes. Now the next question. I'm going to pitch you one, since you've been doing all the heavy
[43:12.000 -> 43:16.400] lifting, since you're built for comfort and power as well. I got these big shoulders,
[43:16.400 -> 43:18.080] I'll carry your arse around. Exactly.
[43:20.000 -> 43:25.120] Merck going to win a race? I fucking hope not because I said I'm gonna shave my beard off if they do.
[43:26.480 -> 43:30.960] I've got some, um, after going through the race analysis I did spend quite a bit of time going
[43:30.960 -> 43:38.960] through the front of the field. Honestly bro? Am I in danger? You should be. I'm in danger!
[43:38.960 -> 43:49.240] Yeah you're in danger brother. I think they're getting close. I feel like Ferrari had to make some changes, potentially.
[43:49.240 -> 43:50.600] This is actually pure vibes right now.
[43:50.600 -> 43:52.080] This is no facts and no data.
[43:52.080 -> 43:53.160] Yeah, yeah.
[43:53.160 -> 43:55.360] No one should use us as a reliable source.
[43:55.360 -> 43:56.360] No, no.
[43:56.360 -> 43:58.600] And if you do, then frankly, you deserve that embarrassment.
[43:58.600 -> 43:59.600] Yeah, exactly.
[43:59.600 -> 44:04.280] Well, I heard Engine Mode 11 said that them sumbitches are going to win all them races
[44:04.280 -> 44:05.400] in Formula Car. I'll tell you what. Engine mode 11 said that uh them some bitches gonna win all them races in in
[44:07.800 -> 44:08.520] Formula car. I'll tell you I tell you what
[44:16.460 -> 44:19.700] Yeah, don't don't use us as facts, but I think they're gonna I think they're gonna win a race like it's they've been consistent They're there we'll get to their race in a second
[44:19.800 -> 44:25.360] They've been very consistent and they're chipping away. Their single lap pace has been getting stronger.
[44:25.360 -> 44:26.720] It's still a bit off.
[44:26.720 -> 44:29.440] I'm not sure if we'll see them get another pole.
[44:29.440 -> 44:29.920] Probably.
[44:30.720 -> 44:32.160] Anything and everything can happen.
[44:32.800 -> 44:33.200] But uh...
[44:34.640 -> 44:37.200] Do you have a race in mind that you think they might win?
[44:38.480 -> 44:39.520] I don't.
[44:39.520 -> 44:40.880] I don't particularly know.
[44:40.880 -> 44:41.280] Okay.
[44:41.280 -> 44:48.160] But I think a smooth-faced engine mode 11 is coming.
[44:48.160 -> 44:48.960] It's gonna happen.
[44:48.960 -> 44:53.360] Yeah, and I don't know if I can look at your face without that majestic beard.
[44:53.360 -> 44:57.680] And I can't consult its wisdom either, which is actually where I get all my YouTube videos from.
[44:58.400 -> 45:00.880] Cut it off, stick it in a bag, and you can have it.
[45:00.880 -> 45:01.200] All right.
[45:01.200 -> 45:02.800] And you can stick it in your studio.
[45:02.800 -> 45:04.800] Maybe let's just try smoking some of the beard.
[45:04.800 -> 45:08.160] Do you think that will have any medicinal or psychotic properties?
[45:08.160 -> 45:09.680] I'm not recommending that.
[45:09.680 -> 45:12.640] I mean, it might get your fertility up, but that'd be about it.
[45:13.440 -> 45:15.840] Awareness, metabolism, stamina.
[45:15.840 -> 45:18.480] Oh, I'm not talking about my escape from Tarkov.
[45:18.480 -> 45:19.120] That's shit.
[45:19.760 -> 45:21.520] It's not good for strength, though, that's for sure.
[45:21.520 -> 45:22.240] Fucking nerd.
[45:24.320 -> 45:27.480] So that's qualifying. That was qualifying, yeah.
[45:27.480 -> 45:31.640] And off the back of that, obviously going into the race, I had another question for
[45:31.640 -> 45:36.080] you because obviously you're the man I ask when I run out of talent.
[45:36.080 -> 45:37.560] I don't have it.
[45:37.560 -> 45:39.600] Ferrari, P2, P3.
[45:39.600 -> 45:40.600] Yeah.
[45:40.600 -> 45:43.600] Both start on the softs.
[45:43.600 -> 45:45.000] I would have thought they'd just split that.
[45:46.000 -> 45:47.500] The- I agree.
[45:47.500 -> 45:50.000] And in the press before the race,
[45:50.500 -> 45:53.000] uh, Leclerc was giving it all that, like,
[45:53.000 -> 45:56.000] we're gonna split it because we've tried that before and it works.
[45:56.000 -> 45:57.500] And Carlos was like,
[45:58.000 -> 45:59.500] eh, fuck you, mate.
[46:00.000 -> 46:00.500] I'm not starting on that.
[46:00.500 -> 46:02.000] I don't know if that's what happened, but like,
[46:02.000 -> 46:04.500] they were talking in the press about splitting strategies.
[46:04.500 -> 46:10.260] Um, and they didn't do it. They didn't do it. And I was surprised to see them both on those reds.
[46:10.260 -> 46:17.260] Yeah, do you think that was like their first way of losing the race?
[46:17.260 -> 46:20.260] How much time you got?
[46:20.260 -> 46:25.520] Hmm. Well, yeah, that's true. This might actually be an hour and a half podcast episode to be
[46:25.520 -> 46:26.520] honest.
[46:26.520 -> 46:36.280] Ah, dude, genuinely. I don't think they were there. Like this race for me looks like Austria
[46:36.280 -> 46:40.040] looked you remember when Austria like Red Bull are going to dominate and the Ferraris
[46:40.040 -> 46:46.560] were insanely quick and they imploded. Max went longer on the stints. He was faster than them.
[46:48.800 -> 46:57.440] Checo's having a tough time at this event, but using Max versus LeClaire. I am not sure
[46:57.440 -> 47:07.480] they made the wrong call because compound for compound every stint, Red Max had Leclerc covered so yeah,
[47:07.480 -> 47:11.680] you know. Looking at.
[47:11.680 -> 47:14.780] You know if let's say let's move on,
[47:14.780 -> 47:17.040] let's say Leclerc tried the
[47:17.040 -> 47:20.120] the one stop medium hard.
[47:20.120 -> 47:22.600] I mean Ferrari in terms of race pace
[47:22.600 -> 47:24.160] looking through it for our immersive.
[47:24.160 -> 47:25.200] Sorry Mercedes in terms of race pace are not through it, Ferrari, or Mercedes, Mercedes,
[47:25.200 -> 47:30.720] in terms of race pace, are not too far off of the Red Bulls when you look compared like for like
[47:30.720 -> 47:35.760] tires, similar tire age, looking at fuel corrected times and the tire deltas. I think the Mercedes
[47:35.760 -> 47:40.720] is about a quarter of a second lap, maybe a bit more, maybe a bit less throughout. There's places
[47:40.720 -> 47:45.720] they match and they were places where for a harder compound they were faster, but
[47:46.520 -> 47:49.600] You know that you look at the final stint and you look at the first stint
[47:50.000 -> 47:55.820] When when access the hammer down in the places that you know you in the places you for sure have the hammer down and you're not
[47:55.820 -> 47:57.820] managing
[47:58.480 -> 48:04.400] It was night and day it was you know a couple tenths of terms of pace the frog didn't have an answer though man
[48:03.000 -> 48:05.000] that it was a couple of tenths in terms of pace. The Ferrari didn't have an answer though, man.
[48:05.000 -> 48:06.000] Ferrari did not have an answer.
[48:06.000 -> 48:09.000] No, well, you say that, but they did have an answer.
[48:09.000 -> 48:16.000] And apparently, it was to call Carlos in at the very last second for what is now becoming
[48:16.000 -> 48:20.000] a weekly occurrence, which is the Ferrari disaster pit stop.
[48:20.000 -> 48:26.320] And just for good measure, they decided to leave a pit gun halfway out in the pit lane
[48:26.320 -> 48:33.040] that Checo then dutifully ran over while taking a, again this is more sort of salt into the
[48:33.040 -> 48:38.480] wound, in that pit stop, Checo did a 2.04 which is the fastest of the season.
[48:38.480 -> 48:40.960] Wow, I didn't notice that.
[48:40.960 -> 48:43.520] 2.04 man.
[48:43.520 -> 48:45.120] That's good.
[48:45.200 -> 48:48.000] And like I say, just to rub the salt in your wound, you thought, fuck you,
[48:48.000 -> 48:49.880] I'm running over your pit gun on the way out.
[48:50.120 -> 48:55.320] Well, people don't realize that Zandvoort is actually an insanely tight pit lane.
[48:55.320 -> 48:57.800] All the garages are smashed together.
[48:57.800 -> 49:00.600] I think some of the teams that can't even bring very many guests
[49:00.720 -> 49:03.440] at all into the garage because there's just not room for anybody.
[49:03.440 -> 49:08.480] So it doesn't I didn't really pick that up until somebody's talking about it. Yeah, it's super tight. Then you see
[49:08.480 -> 49:14.880] them leaving their pit boxes, you know, like. Holy crap, that's close, man. So that is a that's
[49:14.880 -> 49:19.280] pretty, pretty interesting. But yeah, a little bit of insult to injury said, fuck your wheel gun,
[49:19.280 -> 49:30.200] smash it out of the way. But he had no where like I mean, he was probably full lock leaving the way. But he had no where like, I mean, he was probably full lock leaving the box. Yeah. I mean, where the hell is she going to go now? So yeah, Friary pretty much fucked
[49:30.200 -> 49:35.800] that straight away for Carlos Blessing. I think he came back out in like 11th or something.
[49:35.800 -> 49:42.480] Dude I'm took him, took him out contention. I mean, yeah, he, he was basically P3, uh,
[49:42.480 -> 49:46.180] what, 10 seconds, eight seconds behind LeClaire.
[49:46.180 -> 49:49.280] And then after that stop, he comes up, yeah, he's doubled his gap to LeClaire and it's
[49:49.280 -> 49:50.280] like he's out.
[49:50.280 -> 49:58.160] And he looked like a wounded pup after that, like his pace was bad, bad, bad.
[49:58.160 -> 50:03.920] Like you know, fifth, fifth best pace in the race.
[50:03.920 -> 50:07.700] His final stint somehow he managed to get ahead of Checo and held him up.
[50:07.700 -> 50:11.200] But that was pretty bad.
[50:11.700 -> 50:12.260] That was pretty bad.
[50:12.260 -> 50:17.160] One thing from this race, moving on from Ferrari, I'm sure.
[50:17.500 -> 50:18.560] We'll talk about them again.
[50:18.560 -> 50:20.660] Yeah, they give us plenty to talk about, don't they?
[50:20.660 -> 50:21.460] But absolutely.
[50:22.740 -> 50:31.120] Daniel Ricciardo, obviously, we know he had a a bad qualifying right? Yep. So he started P17. We're gonna play a game now which you
[50:31.120 -> 50:33.840] you probably may know the answers to this because you probably already got it
[50:33.840 -> 50:39.360] up on your screen. We're gonna play a game okay. How many pit stops did Daniel
[50:39.360 -> 50:46.000] Ricciardo do in that race? Five? 4? 4, that's correct.
[50:46.000 -> 50:48.000] So,
[50:48.000 -> 50:50.000] how many
[50:50.000 -> 50:52.000] right at the start
[50:52.000 -> 50:54.000] he was on the softs
[50:54.000 -> 50:56.000] how many laps do you think
[50:56.000 -> 50:58.000] they did on the softs before they thought
[50:58.000 -> 51:00.000] fuck it?
[51:00.000 -> 51:02.000] I have the answer in front of me
[51:02.000 -> 51:04.000] it was the
[51:04.000 -> 51:07.040] tied second shortest stint with gas man
[51:07.600 -> 51:13.200] it was an so it was a new set of softs as well the the luxuries of getting knocked out in q1
[51:13.200 -> 51:20.560] you have some extra premium pirelli p0 rubber and i he was not able to put it to good use to be fair
[51:20.560 -> 51:27.200] a lot of people in the shit fight at the back uh Vettel did nine laps, Joe 12, Ricardo 11.
[51:27.500 -> 51:29.900] Not too many people back there in the gaggle were
[51:30.640 -> 51:33.100] doing too much with that new tire.
[51:33.100 -> 51:35.900] No. So.
[51:35.900 -> 51:38.640] Then just for good measure, they stuck him on the medium.
[51:39.200 -> 51:41.940] Yeah. Which makes sense, right?
[51:41.940 -> 51:44.640] How many laps did he do on the medium tire, Blake?
[51:45.380 -> 51:46.220] 16.
[51:47.380 -> 51:51.060] Okay, so he did less laps on that fucking medium
[51:51.060 -> 51:52.820] than some people did on their softs, right?
[51:52.820 -> 51:53.660] Yep.
[51:53.660 -> 51:55.560] Yeah, okay, cool, just checking.
[51:55.560 -> 51:59.080] And when they decided to put him on the hard,
[51:59.080 -> 52:01.580] which looked like a good tyre in the end,
[52:01.580 -> 52:02.420] granted.
[52:02.420 -> 52:03.660] We'll talk about that.
[52:03.660 -> 52:05.920] How many laps did they do on the hard tire there,
[52:05.920 -> 52:11.600] Blake? Have you got that information to hand? They do, they did 20 laps, but to be fair,
[52:12.400 -> 52:17.600] yeah, that was a VSC. Yeah, so you like, well, I mean, it's like, we love putting tires on,
[52:17.600 -> 52:22.800] and this is a discount, another tire set. Let's bang that one in there. Let's get the whole bingo.
[52:22.780 -> 52:23.340] Let's let's bang that one in there. Let's get the whole bingo
[52:27.840 -> 52:28.580] Yeah, so we'll give them some leniency for pitting under the VSC, right?
[52:31.440 -> 52:32.600] So the VSC they stick the soft on right?
[52:37.140 -> 52:40.700] What happens next Blake? What do they do under the safety car eight laps later? They fit another new soft because in Q1 you've got
[52:41.220 -> 52:43.220] basically the Holy Trinity
[52:43.760 -> 52:45.300] three softs. Three softs.
[52:45.300 -> 52:46.300] Three new softs.
[52:46.300 -> 52:47.300] Okay.
[52:47.300 -> 52:48.300] Cool.
[52:48.300 -> 52:49.300] Just checking.
[52:49.300 -> 52:54.060] So, with all that information, can you fucking tell me what on earth this strategy was all
[52:54.060 -> 52:57.060] about?
[52:57.060 -> 53:00.400] It looks to me like not having a good time, mate.
[53:00.400 -> 53:01.500] Let's try another one.
[53:01.500 -> 53:02.640] Not having a good time, mate.
[53:02.640 -> 53:03.640] Let's try another one.
[53:03.640 -> 53:06.000] You know, because they said soft, soft shit.
[53:06.440 -> 53:07.800] Medium. Oh yeah.
[53:07.800 -> 53:09.780] Max is saying the medium's not feeling too great.
[53:09.780 -> 53:11.980] Oh, the Alpines are doing a great job.
[53:12.480 -> 53:13.780] Great job on those hearts.
[53:13.780 -> 53:14.680] Let's put those on.
[53:15.980 -> 53:18.420] And he tried that until and then obviously like, all right,
[53:18.980 -> 53:20.160] you know, we got that hardworking.
[53:20.160 -> 53:23.160] Let's go back to the soft because we've got a free discount pit stop.
[53:23.160 -> 53:24.020] It's like a bargain.
[53:24.020 -> 53:29.240] I was like, oh, pit stops are cheaper. And then they you know what? They say, you know what? We we got a free discount pit stop. It's like the bargain isles I hope it stops are cheaper and then they you know what they say, you know what we've had a discounted pit stop
[53:29.600 -> 53:33.740] There's a bot access cause a safety car. Let's get a free pit stop
[53:33.740 -> 53:39.940] I mean everybody loves a free pit stop, but to be fair. It just looks like they're having a shit time. What yeah
[53:40.460 -> 53:43.440] So with that and start in p17
[53:44.200 -> 53:47.680] Do you know what he was rewarded with after all of that?
[53:47.680 -> 53:48.680] Where did he finish?
[53:48.680 -> 53:49.680] Uh, 15, 16?
[53:49.680 -> 53:50.680] No, P17.
[53:50.680 -> 53:51.680] Oh, he finished same?
[53:51.680 -> 53:52.680] Okay, fine.
[53:52.680 -> 53:53.680] Yep.
[53:53.680 -> 53:58.680] So after all that, he finished where he started.
[53:58.680 -> 54:00.120] That's tough, man.
[54:00.120 -> 54:03.920] I said we weren't going to kick him while he was down, man, because he's going through
[54:03.920 -> 54:04.920] it.
[54:04.920 -> 54:05.920] I don't necessarily think this is his fault.
[54:05.920 -> 54:06.960] No, no, no, no.
[54:06.960 -> 54:10.400] I think his team were just playing musical chairs with strategy.
[54:11.520 -> 54:15.520] And, you know, as someone's here, I'm going to steal this comment because I can see it in the
[54:15.520 -> 54:20.160] chat. Someone here said they were testing all the compounds out for Lando. That's a good conspiracy
[54:20.160 -> 54:22.240] theory. I like it. I'm going to send it.
[54:22.240 -> 54:31.560] Frame it, frame it. But like, seriously, he was on that medium on his second state and he got mugged by Magnussen.
[54:31.560 -> 54:33.400] He was on, to be fair, Magnussen.
[54:33.400 -> 54:34.760] I don't know what happened with him.
[54:34.760 -> 54:39.840] But also we did, we did say that we were talking about science, but I think he did also have
[54:39.840 -> 54:41.120] some floor damage.
[54:41.120 -> 54:43.840] So that does happen.
[54:43.840 -> 54:44.840] That does tend to happen.
[54:44.840 -> 54:47.500] Speaking of wild conspiracy theories.
[54:47.500 -> 54:50.000] I'm going to get a tinfoil hat made for this show actually.
[54:50.000 -> 54:55.500] Yeah, maybe we should get that merchandise tinfoil hats.
[54:55.500 -> 54:57.440] Lap 44.
[54:57.440 -> 54:58.440] What happens?
[54:58.440 -> 55:04.460] Our favorite little Japanese man, Yuki Tsunoda comes on the radio.
[55:04.460 -> 55:05.200] After his pit stop.
[55:05.200 -> 55:09.760] He says something feels a bit wrong, drives a bit slow and pulls over to the side.
[55:11.120 -> 55:14.480] And all of a sudden he starts driving back around to the pits again.
[55:15.680 -> 55:21.680] And you know, they pit him and they're all out in the, you know, by his car trying to
[55:21.680 -> 55:23.280] sort something out in the cockpit.
[55:23.280 -> 55:25.360] He makes his booster seat slipped out.
[55:25.360 -> 55:28.000] So they're just making sure the stuff that back under his ass so he can.
[55:28.540 -> 55:30.680] Yeah. Tighten the belts back down.
[55:30.680 -> 55:35.840] Yeah. And then change him back onto softs just for the bants while he's there.
[55:35.880 -> 55:37.740] Yeah. Send him back out.
[55:37.740 -> 55:39.720] Well, they know McLaren's strategy.
[55:39.720 -> 55:43.020] If you've got a, you know, a forced or discounted pit stop,
[55:43.420 -> 55:47.920] there are some new bags on and you do tend to do that when you when you come into the pit lane. It's like, well,
[55:47.920 -> 55:51.160] we've done an outlap on them. Right? Fuck it. There's some new ones on there.
[55:51.160 -> 55:56.080] Yeah. And perhaps this is a new technical directive we're not aware of where when you
[55:56.080 -> 56:02.560] go into the pit lane, you man, you have to have a mandatory tire swap. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[56:02.560 -> 56:08.900] So yeah, all this shenanigans started on lap 44 and it finally ended on lap 48 when he went back out,
[56:08.900 -> 56:10.900] said there was still something wrong with a car and
[56:11.600 -> 56:14.320] again pulled over and we get a VSC. Now,
[56:15.080 -> 56:17.080] this was controversial
[56:17.340 -> 56:22.560] because obviously it's a Red Bull sister team and you know, we all share data and
[56:23.280 -> 56:27.520] you know, they've got a direct line and Christian's got the telemetry from the other team and
[56:27.520 -> 56:31.520] the direct line to Yuki's implant to tell him what to do as well.
[56:32.480 -> 56:37.840] Marco flicked you know like we flip the cover of the nuclear button push the red one that
[56:37.840 -> 56:38.720] said safety car.
[56:40.080 -> 56:44.800] Poor Franz Tost just gets it in the ear he's like okay Yuki you know make it look good
[56:44.800 -> 56:49.600] make it look the ear. He's like, okay, Yuki, you know, make it look good, make it look believable. But that was actually, that was Franz Tost with a helmet on leaning in,
[56:49.600 -> 56:54.080] fastening the belts because they couldn't do it over the radio. So Franz hopped off the pit wall,
[56:54.080 -> 56:58.720] put a helmet on and went over to Yuki. And all Yuki's saying is, I don't understand you. I'm
[56:58.720 -> 57:03.440] just going to drive out. Yeah, because I don't know if you guys know this, but when you're
[57:03.440 -> 57:05.240] wearing a helmet, pit
[57:05.240 -> 57:09.560] crew helmet, a headset, and you know, the driver's got his helmet on and he's sitting
[57:09.560 -> 57:14.760] in an F1 car that's running in an active pit lane, you can hear everything crystal clear
[57:14.760 -> 57:16.240] between people when they're talking.
[57:16.240 -> 57:17.840] It's actually just like this.
[57:17.840 -> 57:24.840] It's like you've got a Shure SM7B and some nice headphones on and it's like, oh, acoustics.
[57:24.840 -> 57:25.280] Yeah. Yeah.
[57:25.280 -> 57:26.600] Yeah.
[57:26.600 -> 57:27.520] We're being sarcastic.
[57:27.520 -> 57:30.920] You can't see our faces on the podcast, but anyway.
[57:32.840 -> 57:36.160] Yeah, I mean, when a car starts in a garage, okay,
[57:36.160 -> 57:37.240] I can't even hear people
[57:37.240 -> 57:39.520] when I'm outside the garage at the back.
[57:39.520 -> 57:40.600] Exactly.
[57:40.600 -> 57:41.440] Okay, cool.
[57:41.440 -> 57:42.920] Just checking.
[57:42.920 -> 57:45.400] So yeah, that was a load of nonsense. I think they just fucked up, cool. Just checking. So yeah, um, that was a load of nonsense.
[57:45.520 -> 57:49.620] I think they just fucked up really. I think they said it was a diff issue in the end.
[57:49.620 -> 57:53.080] Well, I've got a short take on it. I won't geek out too hard,
[57:53.160 -> 57:55.280] but every- so I went back and watched
[57:55.800 -> 58:00.540] Yuki's onboard from the TV and you've got the engineer radio and I'm pretty sure the
[58:00.640 -> 58:07.520] onboards are synced at that point. When they broadcast messages over the broadcast, the world feed, those are not synced necessarily,
[58:07.520 -> 58:11.000] but the onboards from, I think it's F1 TV, are synced.
[58:11.000 -> 58:12.720] So I think-
[58:12.720 -> 58:15.880] I also believe and understand that.
[58:15.880 -> 58:19.100] Yeah, so Yuki left the pit lane the first time
[58:19.100 -> 58:22.560] and he said, I've got a loose wheel, right?
[58:22.560 -> 58:24.640] So they say pull over somewhere safe.
[58:24.640 -> 58:27.340] The engineers are looking at it and you can actually
[58:27.880 -> 58:31.280] Diagnose if you have a wheel fit by looking at the pushrod loads
[58:31.280 -> 58:36.400] Which tells you the vertical force on the car and you should see going down the pit lane
[58:36.400 -> 58:41.200] You should see four very equal loads if you had a unfastened wheel
[58:41.200 -> 58:44.920] you would likely see that you were like missing a lot of load on one wheel and the car was kind of like
[58:47.940 -> 58:51.620] Pogo sticking or like if you had a stool with four legs and you cut an inch off one of the legs, that's what it would look like on the data or feel
[58:51.620 -> 58:56.900] like. And you could go around the corner says it was not fixed. But another thing that feels
[58:56.900 -> 59:00.180] very similar to that is when you go around the corner and your diff isn't locked in the
[59:00.180 -> 59:03.900] inside wheel spins up, it feels like you're missing a wheel in the car. So that's what
[59:03.900 -> 59:05.140] happened. He goes around.
[59:05.140 -> 59:06.800] He boxes, obviously, at the stop.
[59:06.800 -> 59:09.480] He's unfastened his belts because he thought he was getting out.
[59:09.680 -> 59:11.780] The engineers like fucker, don't get out of the car.
[59:11.780 -> 59:12.540] Everything's fine.
[59:12.540 -> 59:13.400] Start it back up.
[59:13.400 -> 59:15.600] He starts it back, goes back into the pit lane.
[59:16.100 -> 59:20.000] The performance engineer who's diagnosing that is probably at that point
[59:20.580 -> 59:24.000] starting to look at other things because they were like, OK, well, he told me
[59:24.340 -> 59:25.480] we'll not fit.
[59:25.480 -> 59:26.960] So I'm looking at all those sensors
[59:26.960 -> 59:29.120] that will tell me if the wheels on the car.
[59:29.120 -> 59:30.600] What he probably didn't look at
[59:30.600 -> 59:32.120] was the differential at that time.
[59:32.120 -> 59:35.280] Now, leaving the pit lane that time,
[59:35.280 -> 59:37.080] he's probably looking at more stuff
[59:37.080 -> 59:39.500] and as soon as Yuki says differential,
[59:39.500 -> 59:41.440] the performance engineers flip straight to the diff page
[59:41.440 -> 59:43.680] and be like, yeah, it's fucked, pull it over, mate.
[59:43.680 -> 59:47.940] And that happened and people are thinking like, you know, there was an audio message played
[59:47.940 -> 59:50.440] that he's in the pit lane still, and they're telling him,
[59:50.440 -> 59:52.080] pull out onto the track and stop on the track.
[59:52.080 -> 59:56.140] It's like he had already left the pit lane when they told him that. So.
[59:57.140 -> 59:59.480] I used to be that guy looking at that information
[59:59.740 -> 01:00:02.680] and watching that video back the language,
[01:00:03.180 -> 01:00:05.400] what the driver is doing, what the driver is feeding
[01:00:05.400 -> 01:00:09.560] back, the driver, the engineer is probably getting a little bit like sidetracked.
[01:00:09.560 -> 01:00:10.560] All that made sense.
[01:00:10.560 -> 01:00:15.280] And if anybody's fabricating that this is fixed, our favorite broadcasting service was
[01:00:15.280 -> 01:00:20.120] probably giving that narrative a bit of lip service on the TV, which is beautiful, but
[01:00:20.120 -> 01:00:21.760] it's free clicks, man.
[01:00:21.760 -> 01:00:25.880] You can go post a Twitter article the next day or and get loads of engagement,
[01:00:25.880 -> 01:00:27.880] loads of new followers, loads of new,
[01:00:27.880 -> 01:00:31.440] you know, yeah, premium TV service subscribers.
[01:00:31.440 -> 01:00:33.400] So that was pretty interesting.
[01:00:33.400 -> 01:00:34.220] I'm done.
[01:00:34.220 -> 01:00:35.060] So yeah.
[01:00:35.060 -> 01:00:35.880] Okay, good.
[01:00:35.880 -> 01:00:39.120] And I think it's also worth noting,
[01:00:39.120 -> 01:00:41.160] like you say, the engineers looking at data,
[01:00:41.160 -> 01:00:50.400] this isn't something like where it just pops up you know like a Facebook notification this is like what's this like 500 odd
[01:00:50.400 -> 01:00:53.440] sensors or something ridiculous like that that you got to comb through to find
[01:00:53.440 -> 01:00:59.760] the one that's giving you the problem so yeah no I don't you know I feel for the
[01:00:59.760 -> 01:01:07.040] guy and you key for that one that's's a bummer. And as well, if this was a conspiracy and they
[01:01:07.040 -> 01:01:12.320] wanted a safety car, you know what they would have done? They would have done what Botas did
[01:01:12.320 -> 01:01:20.000] on lap 55. Plan G for grenade, plan G Valtteri. Valtteri, this is James, plan G.
[01:01:21.040 -> 01:01:26.080] And just stop on the straight, because as soon as you stop on the straight, that's always a bang automatic safety car.
[01:01:26.080 -> 01:01:27.080] Boom.
[01:01:27.080 -> 01:01:32.400] But stepping back a bit, back to the whole VSC shenanigans, the staffing boxes for hards
[01:01:32.400 -> 01:01:34.680] or for mediums, that makes sense.
[01:01:34.680 -> 01:01:37.560] Mercedes do a super sexy double stack for mediums.
[01:01:37.560 -> 01:01:39.200] It was good too.
[01:01:39.200 -> 01:01:40.200] Yeah.
[01:01:40.200 -> 01:01:43.520] I think it was like, what, 2.6 and a three point something.
[01:01:43.520 -> 01:01:44.520] Either way, it was-
[01:01:44.520 -> 01:01:46.480] I mean, it's pretty juicy for a double.
[01:01:46.480 -> 01:01:47.480] Yeah, exactly.
[01:01:47.480 -> 01:01:50.480] I'm afraid you can't do that with a single stop.
[01:01:50.480 -> 01:01:51.480] No, no.
[01:01:51.480 -> 01:01:54.480] Sines was like 13 seconds for Christ's sake, and that was a single stop.
[01:01:54.480 -> 01:01:56.480] Oh my God.
[01:01:56.480 -> 01:02:03.280] But yeah, with Max on the hards and Mercedes behind him on the mediums, it looks a bit
[01:02:03.280 -> 01:02:05.520] dicey then in terms of the victory for Max.
[01:02:07.520 -> 01:02:11.840] I think they were taking like half a second out of Max each lap on those mediums.
[01:02:13.200 -> 01:02:19.760] So at that point I did think that perhaps maybe Max may have fumbled the bag on that one.
[01:02:19.760 -> 01:02:26.040] Yeah, no because like when you go back like. They didn't Mercedes didn't want the virtual safety car.
[01:02:26.040 -> 01:02:27.760] The virtual safety car just gave
[01:02:27.760 -> 01:02:29.060] everybody a discounted stop.
[01:02:29.060 -> 01:02:31.240] Max got to get off of his aging
[01:02:31.240 -> 01:02:33.160] medium and try out the hard.
[01:02:33.160 -> 01:02:35.060] The Mercedes smacked on those mediums
[01:02:35.060 -> 01:02:36.960] and they found a pretty good
[01:02:36.960 -> 01:02:38.640] compound delta on those mediums.
[01:02:38.640 -> 01:02:40.220] They're going about 3 quarters
[01:02:40.220 -> 01:02:42.720] of a second faster lap.
[01:02:42.720 -> 01:02:44.680] Max is medium stint was not excellent,
[01:02:44.680 -> 01:02:48.280] though looking at that that that tire was kind of shied for him, but
[01:02:48.560 -> 01:02:50.280] no, I think he came with the radio as well.
[01:02:50.280 -> 01:02:54.440] Didn't he say that I'm not having a great time on these now, but here's the thing.
[01:02:54.520 -> 01:02:58.880] Uh, let's look at the race trace from that point, because at that point, like
[01:02:58.880 -> 01:03:04.680] when, let's say you've done that, they've done a big stint on those, um, on the
[01:03:04.680 -> 01:03:05.600] mediums, right?
[01:03:05.600 -> 01:03:06.600] Mm-hmm.
[01:03:06.600 -> 01:03:11.440] Oh, this is before that, I'm just...
[01:03:11.440 -> 01:03:13.320] You can edit this out later, right?
[01:03:13.320 -> 01:03:14.320] Please?
[01:03:14.320 -> 01:03:16.800] No, I might just keep it in for some awkward silence, to be honest.
[01:03:16.800 -> 01:03:23.000] No, but like, okay, at that point, they stop, and Max has, at the, after the VSC period,
[01:03:23.000 -> 01:03:24.000] right?
[01:03:24.000 -> 01:03:25.800] They've come out, they there on their new bags.
[01:03:25.800 -> 01:03:32.120] Max has a 12 second advantage over Lewis.
[01:03:32.120 -> 01:03:38.320] Lewis is about half a second a lot faster, right?
[01:03:38.320 -> 01:03:40.160] They need to make up.
[01:03:40.160 -> 01:03:42.080] I believe I need to.
[01:03:42.080 -> 01:03:49.200] This is my YouTube, so I hope I didn't fuck up these numbers, but they need 0.2 seconds per lap faster just to catch Max by the end of the race.
[01:03:49.200 -> 01:03:52.720] So I think at that point they were in a little bit of trouble,
[01:03:52.720 -> 01:03:57.440] like, you know, and if and if they could have got pushing a little bit more, the medium was
[01:03:57.440 -> 01:04:02.240] going to have a bit of dag the hard had almost virtually no dag on for the Mercedes. I think
[01:04:02.240 -> 01:04:05.280] Red Bull's tires management at least look similar.
[01:04:10.240 -> 01:04:15.200] That was that was going to be close. And I think probably Mercedes had a chance of catching them on that. But but then Batas initiates plan G.
[01:04:16.160 -> 01:04:20.160] Yes. So just obviously, we're going to in a second, but quickly.
[01:04:21.440 -> 01:04:28.240] Was this VSC and then pitting for the mediums, do you think that was the only
[01:04:28.240 -> 01:04:31.360] opportunity that Mercedes had to win this race?
[01:04:31.360 -> 01:04:32.360] No.
[01:04:32.360 -> 01:04:33.360] No.
[01:04:33.360 -> 01:04:34.360] Okay.
[01:04:34.360 -> 01:04:35.360] I...
[01:04:35.360 -> 01:04:37.400] So, is that with the whole Bottas scenario?
[01:04:37.400 -> 01:04:40.080] No, no, I'm talking about before the Sunoda.
[01:04:40.080 -> 01:04:41.080] Oh, okay.
[01:04:41.080 -> 01:04:45.540] I think, my feeling, and it's not not my feeling I've gone through the data and
[01:04:46.240 -> 01:04:52.320] Everything I've read in the press that the teams have put out stacks up with this if Mercedes had pulled that one stop off
[01:04:53.040 -> 01:04:59.120] Without the you know safety car sequence. Yeah, that was their best shot. That was winning
[01:05:00.320 -> 01:05:08.360] Yeah, I did feel like that was yeah, but it it was. But even then I I'm going to spoil it.
[01:05:08.360 -> 01:05:12.640] I actually think.
[01:05:12.640 -> 01:05:17.360] If Max had put on hards at 46, he would have still won that.
[01:05:17.360 -> 01:05:23.420] The only way Lewis would have won is if they went a little bit longer on that set of mediums
[01:05:23.420 -> 01:05:25.760] for Max and tried to go a longer stint on the soft,
[01:05:25.760 -> 01:05:27.320] but I don't think they were going to do it.
[01:05:27.320 -> 01:05:30.400] Honestly, if Max fits a hard,
[01:05:30.400 -> 01:05:32.000] looking at all the data we have for the rest of the race,
[01:05:32.000 -> 01:05:34.280] if Max fits a hard on lap 46,
[01:05:34.280 -> 01:05:36.160] whatever lap it was,
[01:05:36.160 -> 01:05:39.360] he catches them in between 10 and 15 laps
[01:05:39.360 -> 01:05:42.560] with a huge pace delta over them on an aging hard.
[01:05:42.560 -> 01:05:48.080] So at that point Mercedes shot.
[01:05:48.080 -> 01:05:50.320] At winning the race is.
[01:05:50.320 -> 01:05:54.440] Probably only likely due to a Red Bull error.
[01:05:54.440 -> 01:05:55.800] OK.
[01:05:55.800 -> 01:05:57.760] And I think that's.
[01:05:57.760 -> 01:06:00.000] I think that's.
[01:06:00.000 -> 01:06:02.580] Sound like that's that's maths.
[01:06:02.580 -> 01:06:03.580] That's not a vibes.
[01:06:03.580 -> 01:06:06.960] I know I said I wouldn't get too serious, god, come on!
[01:06:08.320 -> 01:06:08.960] Alright, let's get some-
[01:06:08.960 -> 01:06:10.080] Well, we- we have to have some-
[01:06:10.080 -> 01:06:11.200] Yeah, okay, fine.
[01:06:11.200 -> 01:06:13.600] And I think that adds some- some credibility to us, but-
[01:06:13.600 -> 01:06:17.040] And we can even it out by saying that the Mercedes are fucking mid.
[01:06:17.040 -> 01:06:17.540] Yeah.
[01:06:18.080 -> 01:06:18.640] There you go.
[01:06:18.640 -> 01:06:19.140] Okay.
[01:06:19.140 -> 01:06:19.680] See, he said it.
[01:06:19.680 -> 01:06:21.760] He even said it, I'm scared to say that now.
[01:06:21.760 -> 01:06:25.760] But yeah, so, that sent- get rid of the Yuki scenario,
[01:06:25.760 -> 01:06:28.440] I don't think they still had a chance to win.
[01:06:28.440 -> 01:06:29.840] They could have, maybe,
[01:06:29.840 -> 01:06:31.920] but I think if it was a Red Bull fumble,
[01:06:31.920 -> 01:06:33.080] they would have been in.
[01:06:33.080 -> 01:06:36.220] But everybody playing the right cards, the one stop.
[01:06:37.640 -> 01:06:39.240] The Red Bull knew how good that hard was,
[01:06:39.240 -> 01:06:40.080] and they saw it.
[01:06:40.080 -> 01:06:42.640] They saw everybody else vibing on it with very little deg.
[01:06:42.640 -> 01:06:45.440] And Max was having an atrocious stint on his
[01:06:45.440 -> 01:06:50.240] medium looking at that medium sent everything else it didn't stack up so yeah sunoda virtual
[01:06:50.240 -> 01:06:58.080] safety car did it put them back in the game or hurt them it basically just gave everybody a
[01:06:58.080 -> 01:07:05.260] free stop and honestly the the sunoda safety car, improve their chances of winning the race.
[01:07:07.460 -> 01:07:09.800] Because they got they got to put on that tire.
[01:07:09.800 -> 01:07:11.100] Discount pit stop.
[01:07:11.100 -> 01:07:12.400] Yeah, they got the discounted pit stop.
[01:07:12.400 -> 01:07:14.500] I could be.
[01:07:14.500 -> 01:07:16.200] I'm hit or miss on that one.
[01:07:16.200 -> 01:07:18.360] OK, I think they.
[01:07:18.360 -> 01:07:19.600] That was the one when they
[01:07:19.600 -> 01:07:21.460] when the snow to pit stop came out,
[01:07:21.460 -> 01:07:23.100] that's when they were.
[01:07:23.100 -> 01:07:28.120] Half a second a lap faster than Max and they needed to be 0.6 faster lap to catch him.
[01:07:28.120 -> 01:07:31.720] So that's closer than the other scenario without the safety car.
[01:07:31.720 -> 01:07:34.840] Now is it time for the plan G?
[01:07:34.840 -> 01:07:41.040] Yeah, so Protas, lap 55, the Alfa Romeo, which has done a few times this season, just decides
[01:07:41.040 -> 01:07:43.320] to reduce itself to its component forms.
[01:07:43.320 -> 01:07:47.880] Well, it's their engine supplier has mastered the external combustion engine.
[01:07:47.880 -> 01:07:48.880] So, yeah.
[01:07:49.200 -> 01:07:54.040] Yeah. The problem was the fire was outside the engine and not inside it.
[01:07:55.440 -> 01:07:56.440] I mean, guys, come on.
[01:07:58.320 -> 01:08:00.240] So, yeah, he stops at the end of the straight.
[01:08:00.920 -> 01:08:05.000] Carlos has a bit of a sketchy moment where he overtakes Ocon and nearly plows.
[01:08:05.000 -> 01:08:08.500] Did you see that though? Green boards midway through the straight.
[01:08:08.500 -> 01:08:11.800] So the green boards are up and he's like, right, everything's cool.
[01:08:11.800 -> 01:08:12.600] He's like, that's weird.
[01:08:12.600 -> 01:08:15.500] Then he sees the double yellow right there and it's like, holy shit,
[01:08:15.500 -> 01:08:17.500] I'm alongside because there's a green board right there.
[01:08:17.500 -> 01:08:22.500] That seems like a little bit of a marshalling system fuck up more than anything, honestly.
[01:08:24.000 -> 01:08:27.360] Yeah, that was a bit sketchy.
[01:08:27.360 -> 01:08:29.760] But I think he gave Okon the place back.
[01:08:29.760 -> 01:08:30.760] Yeah.
[01:08:30.760 -> 01:08:31.760] So whatever.
[01:08:31.760 -> 01:08:37.000] A safety car came out a lap later, which I, to me, this is something that fucking annoys
[01:08:37.000 -> 01:08:38.340] the hell out of me.
[01:08:38.340 -> 01:08:41.480] And we've seen it last year in Baku.
[01:08:41.480 -> 01:08:45.600] Why does it take so long for a fucking safety car to come out when there's clearly a car
[01:08:45.600 -> 01:08:49.000] that's stuck on fire on the straight for fuck's sake?
[01:08:49.000 -> 01:08:50.120] That's super weird for me.
[01:08:50.120 -> 01:08:51.120] I don't know.
[01:08:51.120 -> 01:08:52.120] Like, that's one of those things.
[01:08:52.120 -> 01:08:53.300] It's like cars on fire.
[01:08:53.300 -> 01:08:55.160] It's probably not going to restart.
[01:08:55.160 -> 01:08:59.480] So you know, yeah, that was weird.
[01:08:59.480 -> 01:09:03.560] And I watched it back on the F1 TV replay with the overlay and it was literally like
[01:09:03.560 -> 01:09:05.280] an entire lap before
[01:09:05.280 -> 01:09:09.040] they decided, oh you know what we should do? We should stick a safety car out.
[01:09:09.040 -> 01:09:12.560] So Michael Massie would have had that safety car out in a heartbeat brother.
[01:09:13.280 -> 01:09:17.840] The fucking Woody. Don't get me started on him, I tell you.
[01:09:17.840 -> 01:09:20.320] Oh Jesus.
[01:09:20.320 -> 01:09:26.880] Even though he, you know, even though all the solid work he did for us last year in Abu Dhabi, he's still not on my Christmas list.
[01:09:26.880 -> 01:09:27.880] Yeah.
[01:09:27.880 -> 01:09:28.880] What a bloke.
[01:09:28.880 -> 01:09:29.880] Anyway.
[01:09:29.880 -> 01:09:30.880] Yeah.
[01:09:30.880 -> 01:09:31.880] What a guy.
[01:09:31.880 -> 01:09:32.880] What a guy.
[01:09:32.880 -> 01:09:36.880] Apparently he's running supercars or something in Australia now.
[01:09:36.880 -> 01:09:37.880] Yeah.
[01:09:37.880 -> 01:09:38.920] So yeah, there you go.
[01:09:38.920 -> 01:09:40.520] Back to the homeland for him.
[01:09:40.520 -> 01:09:43.200] Yeah, so, so safety car comes out.
[01:09:43.200 -> 01:09:45.360] Everyone has to go through the pit lane anyway, because
[01:09:45.360 -> 01:09:46.360] the straight's blocked.
[01:09:46.360 -> 01:09:52.680] Verstappen takes his pit stop for softs, which was, you know, I think that was a given.
[01:09:52.680 -> 01:09:53.680] Yeah.
[01:09:53.680 -> 01:09:54.680] Why would you not?
[01:09:54.680 -> 01:09:56.760] But this is where it gets a bit fucking weird for me, right?
[01:09:56.760 -> 01:09:59.960] Why the hell do you not stop Hamilton for softs also?
[01:09:59.960 -> 01:10:01.280] I don't, I don't understand.
[01:10:01.280 -> 01:10:05.880] Like, it was like, it was Ferrari Silver Silverstone where it's like a track position.
[01:10:06.160 -> 01:10:08.040] Track position. It's like, well.
[01:10:09.080 -> 01:10:12.840] Like I like Lewis, as soon as he realized everybody else was stopping,
[01:10:12.840 -> 01:10:16.240] which you've got a safety car, why would you like who's not stopping into that?
[01:10:16.480 -> 01:10:18.720] And it's so easy to sit here and armchair this.
[01:10:18.720 -> 01:10:20.520] But I am surprised by it.
[01:10:20.520 -> 01:10:22.800] And I I know for a fact.
[01:10:24.240 -> 01:10:26.600] They agree that was the wrong call and it's not trying
[01:10:26.600 -> 01:10:32.360] to shit on them because to be fair, Mercedes are very good on the pit wall.
[01:10:32.360 -> 01:10:38.840] Yeah, but I think they've missed out a few opportunities for things like this where they
[01:10:38.840 -> 01:10:45.840] tried to play too safe and prioritized track position far higher than what they probably should.
[01:10:45.840 -> 01:10:47.160] Yeah.
[01:10:47.160 -> 01:10:48.440] So what happens after that?
[01:10:48.440 -> 01:10:50.640] Lewis obviously does the drive-thru.
[01:10:50.640 -> 01:10:55.160] He keeps on those delicious medium tires,
[01:10:55.160 -> 01:10:57.360] the yellow mustard side one.
[01:10:57.360 -> 01:10:58.800] But, uh...
[01:10:58.800 -> 01:11:00.240] What's King George doing?
[01:11:00.240 -> 01:11:02.240] King George goes a little bit rogue here,
[01:11:02.240 -> 01:11:04.360] and he says, I want to stop for softs.
[01:11:04.360 -> 01:11:07.400] Governor, blimey, I'd like to stop for softs, please.
[01:11:07.400 -> 01:11:09.900] Yeah, poor blimey, governor. I need some new softs.
[01:11:09.900 -> 01:11:13.700] So obviously he stops and gets those.
[01:11:13.700 -> 01:11:14.400] Yeah.
[01:11:14.400 -> 01:11:17.000] But there's a lot of red flags in this for me.
[01:11:17.000 -> 01:11:17.700] Right.
[01:11:17.700 -> 01:11:21.500] So A, why did Mercedes let him stop when they could have just said,
[01:11:21.500 -> 01:11:27.920] no, Hamilton's out, we need you to play second fiddle to get a one-two, maybe.
[01:11:27.920 -> 01:11:29.000] I don't think they would have.
[01:11:29.000 -> 01:11:31.880] I think as soon as Max stopped for them soft,
[01:11:31.880 -> 01:11:33.040] I think that was a given.
[01:11:33.040 -> 01:11:36.080] Max is, you know, he's gonna take it.
[01:11:36.080 -> 01:11:36.920] Yeah, 100%.
[01:11:38.560 -> 01:11:43.560] But they let him stop and they let Verstappen jump
[01:11:44.480 -> 01:11:46.640] right up to the back of Hamilton.
[01:11:46.640 -> 01:11:50.880] So this was all sorts of weird for me.
[01:11:50.880 -> 01:11:59.280] It's like either leave Hamilton out, you have to leave George out as well to play, you know,
[01:11:59.280 -> 01:12:06.000] the British Minister of Defence. Or. Or Box and Both.
[01:12:06.000 -> 01:12:08.000] I don't know, it was just, the whole thing just seemed
[01:12:08.000 -> 01:12:10.000] really fucking weird to me.
[01:12:10.000 -> 01:12:12.000] You said it completely right, I think they
[01:12:12.000 -> 01:12:14.000] unfortunately banked
[01:12:14.000 -> 01:12:16.000] on track position without
[01:12:16.000 -> 01:12:18.000] actually considering that
[01:12:18.000 -> 01:12:20.000] you know,
[01:12:20.000 -> 01:12:22.000] they knew Max had the soft.
[01:12:22.000 -> 01:12:24.000] Were they not
[01:12:24.000 -> 01:12:25.200] ready for it? You know, because like you've always got the safety car Were they not ready for it?
[01:12:25.200 -> 01:12:28.080] You know, because like you've always got the safety car windows, you know, it's like, you know,
[01:12:28.080 -> 01:12:31.840] it's like if the safety car happens on lap, you've predefined that.
[01:12:31.840 -> 01:12:35.200] It's not like it's a discussion like, hi, hi, Toto, would you like to stop now?
[01:12:35.200 -> 01:12:36.480] I think there's a virtual safety car.
[01:12:36.480 -> 01:12:37.920] We have to put tires on.
[01:12:37.920 -> 01:12:39.840] Yes, rally the troops and gather the tires.
[01:12:39.840 -> 01:12:40.480] No, it's not gonna happen.
[01:12:40.480 -> 01:12:42.480] They're like, right, we're in the safety car window.
[01:12:42.480 -> 01:12:44.720] So if the safety car right now, what are we doing?
[01:12:44.720 -> 01:12:45.840] What's our default?
[01:12:45.840 -> 01:12:47.760] Is it opposite the car head?
[01:12:47.760 -> 01:12:49.200] Is it definitely this tire?
[01:12:49.200 -> 01:12:51.000] Is it definitely that tire? It's done.
[01:12:51.000 -> 01:12:53.400] You don't you don't call those decisions on the fly.
[01:12:53.400 -> 01:12:55.560] Ferrari do not very well, but
[01:12:56.600 -> 01:12:59.920] everybody else, everybody else has a system that and it's pre-decided.
[01:12:59.920 -> 01:13:03.200] You're updating those goalposts as you move through the race. So.
[01:13:04.880 -> 01:13:07.940] The narrative of leaving them both out on the medium and playing a British
[01:13:09.380 -> 01:13:12.440] minister of defense, that wasn't going to work.
[01:13:12.440 -> 01:13:14.840] You saw what happened to Lewis on the mediums.
[01:13:14.920 -> 01:13:18.840] Russell was in the same pace as, as Hamilton before.
[01:13:19.160 -> 01:13:22.800] There's nothing to tell me that Russell's going to be able to hold max up.
[01:13:22.800 -> 01:13:28.920] Now, Lewis did have an engine mode issue on the race restart, which he probably lost some deployment and he was probably a
[01:13:28.920 -> 01:13:33.880] little bit slower, but realistically, it was inevitable. You look at that, it was absolutely
[01:13:33.880 -> 01:13:34.880] inevitable.
[01:13:34.880 -> 01:13:41.460] Regardless of what happened, really, it was it was one as soon as Max decided to come
[01:13:41.460 -> 01:13:42.460] in for the softs.
[01:13:42.460 -> 01:13:47.360] I mean, Lewis even got mugged by signs who was substantially slower than either
[01:13:47.680 -> 01:13:48.920] George or Max.
[01:13:49.000 -> 01:13:52.520] So it was not on like and they knew they dropped the ball.
[01:13:52.520 -> 01:13:57.040] But like it was like Lewis, all the frustration came vented out from Lewis at that
[01:13:57.040 -> 01:13:58.560] point when he knew he was fucked.
[01:13:59.000 -> 01:14:01.440] But I feel like it's one of those things.
[01:14:02.600 -> 01:14:04.880] I can't say I blame him for being.
[01:14:04.920 -> 01:14:08.040] No, no, I would have been pissed off, too, because it was it was the wrong call and he
[01:14:08.040 -> 01:14:13.680] has every right to be and I'm sure they're going to debrief it and package that up and
[01:14:13.680 -> 01:14:15.600] they'll be better for it.
[01:14:15.600 -> 01:14:19.520] But it's just when you do teams do make mistakes and that was one of them doing double medium
[01:14:19.520 -> 01:14:20.520] for those guys.
[01:14:20.520 -> 01:14:23.360] They would have been they would have finished third and fourth double soft.
[01:14:23.360 -> 01:14:25.660] They would have finished third and fourth double soft they would have finished second and third max
[01:14:26.460 -> 01:14:30.700] Was a rocket ship on that final soft and George didn't stand a chance
[01:14:32.900 -> 01:14:35.100] And that's from the data that I see this is not my
[01:14:36.380 -> 01:14:40.080] Sprinkle a little bit of vibe on there. I just did the sprinkle but um yeah
[01:14:41.220 -> 01:14:47.920] Yeah, but I got some PTSD when the message came up that all lapped cars can now overtake.
[01:14:47.920 -> 01:14:48.920] Oh my God.
[01:14:48.920 -> 01:14:49.920] That was good, wasn't it?
[01:14:49.920 -> 01:14:50.920] Yeah.
[01:14:50.920 -> 01:14:51.920] Yikes.
[01:14:51.920 -> 01:14:52.920] Yeah.
[01:14:52.920 -> 01:14:53.920] So that's it.
[01:14:53.920 -> 01:14:54.920] That was the race.
[01:14:54.920 -> 01:14:55.920] That was it, really.
[01:14:55.920 -> 01:14:57.200] Yeah, that was pretty much it.
[01:14:57.200 -> 01:15:00.800] Lewis, unfortunately, was then left out to dry.
[01:15:00.800 -> 01:15:07.720] Sainz decided to need to take out a Nalpine, I think, during that safety carpet window and got a five second penalty.
[01:15:07.720 -> 01:15:08.720] Yeah, I love that.
[01:15:08.720 -> 01:15:11.480] Just to add to his woes of the day.
[01:15:11.480 -> 01:15:12.480] Struggle bus.
[01:15:12.480 -> 01:15:17.880] Yeah, and then, uh, yeah, so the podium ended up being Max, George and Charles.
[01:15:17.880 -> 01:15:26.720] Apparently, I think this was a stat I saw, this is only the second time in 10 races Charles has been on the podium.
[01:15:26.720 -> 01:15:27.720] My god.
[01:15:27.720 -> 01:15:29.320] That is fucking wild.
[01:15:29.320 -> 01:15:31.320] Oh my god bro.
[01:15:31.320 -> 01:15:33.120] Oh my god.
[01:15:33.120 -> 01:15:34.640] That is nuts.
[01:15:34.640 -> 01:15:37.360] But here's the thing, I've got one last gripe.
[01:15:37.360 -> 01:15:39.360] I'm going to complain about the race then probably move on.
[01:15:39.360 -> 01:15:40.360] Oh for it.
[01:15:40.360 -> 01:15:41.360] To Monza Preview.
[01:15:41.360 -> 01:15:42.360] Oh for it.
[01:15:42.360 -> 01:15:43.360] Vent to me.
[01:15:43.360 -> 01:15:44.360] You know how TV direction has been a question mark?
[01:15:44.360 -> 01:15:49.480] We haven't really talked about it lately. So in Zandvoort, they had this spectacular fireworks display
[01:15:49.480 -> 01:15:52.740] going along the main straight as the winning driver crosses the line.
[01:15:53.040 -> 01:15:54.440] The fireworks are going to the sky.
[01:15:54.440 -> 01:15:57.540] As soon as the fireworks start going off, the TV director cuts
[01:15:57.540 -> 01:15:59.580] to the back of Max's steering wheel.
[01:15:59.580 -> 01:16:02.480] And I'm just like, is that I'm like,
[01:16:02.480 -> 01:16:06.360] please, I'm going to put my face through my laptop screen.
[01:16:06.720 -> 01:16:09.160] Like, let me let me enjoy this.
[01:16:09.280 -> 01:16:13.280] You know, whoever's going to cross that line, that's that fireworks display.
[01:16:14.280 -> 01:16:18.600] Spectacular, they put all that money into it, just basically for it to only be
[01:16:18.600 -> 01:16:21.120] visible to what, 500 people in a grandstand.
[01:16:21.200 -> 01:16:22.160] Yeah, exactly.
[01:16:22.520 -> 01:16:23.020] All right.
[01:16:23.400 -> 01:16:31.120] So that's that is pretty That was pretty much the race, wasn't it really? I don't think there's anything massive to talk
[01:16:31.120 -> 01:16:39.520] about in terms of the final result. I think the only real talking point or mention is to Lance
[01:16:39.520 -> 01:16:46.200] Stroll. He finished P10, so he gets a point, which is a bit of a rarity for Aston Martin, bless him.
[01:16:46.200 -> 01:16:47.500] Yeah, that's a point to point.
[01:16:47.500 -> 01:16:51.000] Alonso had a pretty good race, finishing sixth.
[01:16:52.800 -> 01:16:55.500] Schumacher had a fucking nightmare of a race,
[01:16:55.500 -> 01:17:00.500] finishing in 13th, but he had like a botched pit stop quite early on.
[01:17:00.500 -> 01:17:03.200] I think there was an issue with the front jack not dropping.
[01:17:03.200 -> 01:17:05.280] So from then
[01:17:05.280 -> 01:17:08.800] on it was a bit of a free fall. Sebastian Vettel, that's another thing as well.
[01:17:08.800 -> 01:17:15.720] Oh my, with his blue flag incident. Basically becoming a rolling roadblock for Hamilton,
[01:17:15.720 -> 01:17:17.400] was it Hamilton and Checo?
[01:17:17.400 -> 01:17:22.560] Yeah, it was Hamilton and Checo, that was pretty ironic coming from him. Mr. Blue Flags
[01:17:22.560 -> 01:17:27.280] himself, but that's probably more on his pit wall than anything.
[01:17:27.280 -> 01:17:29.400] But I did think that.
[01:17:29.400 -> 01:17:30.400] Does happen.
[01:17:30.400 -> 01:17:31.400] Does happen.
[01:17:31.400 -> 01:17:38.440] And yeah, like we say, Daniel Ricardo started 17th, played merry-go-round in the pits and
[01:17:38.440 -> 01:17:39.440] finished 17th.
[01:17:39.440 -> 01:17:40.440] So well done to him.
[01:17:40.440 -> 01:17:46.960] Valtteri Bottas and Yuki, the two retirements and Max with the fastest lap, which will surprise
[01:17:46.960 -> 01:17:47.960] absolutely nobody.
[01:17:47.960 -> 01:17:48.960] No, no.
[01:17:48.960 -> 01:17:49.960] Where are we off to next?
[01:17:49.960 -> 01:17:57.840] I was going to Monza, Monza, the super speedway in Italy.
[01:17:57.840 -> 01:17:58.840] Hmm.
[01:17:58.840 -> 01:18:00.360] What are you, what are you thinking?
[01:18:00.360 -> 01:18:03.760] Like let's, let's keep this one tight for the, for the lovers.
[01:18:03.760 -> 01:18:07.000] What are you, what are you thinking on, what are you thinking on Monza? What's, what's keep this one tight for the lovers. What are you thinking on Monza?
[01:18:07.000 -> 01:18:08.000] What's your take?
[01:18:08.000 -> 01:18:17.000] Okay, so I've heard that apparently Signs may be taking a penalty for a new PU.
[01:18:17.000 -> 01:18:19.000] Ooh, maybe.
[01:18:19.000 -> 01:18:23.000] Again, that's a rumor, so who knows with that one at the minute.
[01:18:23.000 -> 01:18:27.040] I honestly cannot see it being anything,
[01:18:27.040 -> 01:18:28.640] I mean maybe not a one-two,
[01:18:28.640 -> 01:18:31.880] but it's gotta be a red ball on the top step
[01:18:31.880 -> 01:18:34.220] with the straight line speed they've shown.
[01:18:34.220 -> 01:18:35.060] Yeah.
[01:18:35.060 -> 01:18:36.960] It's ungodly.
[01:18:36.960 -> 01:18:39.040] Adrian Nui is working overtime
[01:18:39.040 -> 01:18:41.280] with that CFD cluster in his head.
[01:18:41.280 -> 01:18:42.120] Yeah.
[01:18:42.120 -> 01:18:43.600] Mmm.
[01:18:43.600 -> 01:18:46.160] Smoke coming out of his ears and everything. Yeah, exactly.
[01:18:46.960 -> 01:18:53.520] I think Mercedes are going to do a sort of roll backwards like they did at Spa.
[01:18:53.520 -> 01:18:57.520] Just looked completely off the pace. I think the straight is not going to be kind to them.
[01:18:58.240 -> 01:19:05.840] No. And I'm sure Ferrari will fuck it up somehow because they've got a special tribute livery or something.
[01:19:05.840 -> 01:19:06.840] So...
[01:19:06.840 -> 01:19:12.680] You remember when Merc did that in Hockenheim, they were like, we're never doing this ever
[01:19:12.680 -> 01:19:13.680] again.
[01:19:13.680 -> 01:19:14.680] Yeah.
[01:19:14.680 -> 01:19:19.800] But to be fair, like, if this is another Ferrari disaster, it's just gonna get buried in the
[01:19:19.800 -> 01:19:23.760] pile of, you know, bad notes from this year anyway.
[01:19:23.760 -> 01:19:24.960] So, yeah.
[01:19:24.960 -> 01:19:27.680] Have you seen the special uniforms that Ferrari have got?
[01:19:27.680 -> 01:19:28.680] Yeah, the yellow, yellow.
[01:19:28.680 -> 01:19:31.120] Yeah, it looks very Renault-esque, isn't it?
[01:19:31.120 -> 01:19:32.120] Mmm.
[01:19:32.120 -> 01:19:33.120] A throwback to Renault.
[01:19:33.120 -> 01:19:34.120] Yeah.
[01:19:34.120 -> 01:19:35.120] But good news.
[01:19:35.120 -> 01:19:36.120] Gone?
[01:19:36.120 -> 01:19:38.960] Good news in terms of Ferrari's luck for Monza.
[01:19:38.960 -> 01:19:46.560] It's already started and there are photos floating around on Twitter that one of the team trucks had a fire
[01:19:46.560 -> 01:19:49.840] as it was traveling from fucking Zandvoort to Monza.
[01:19:49.840 -> 01:19:52.160] Yeah, there's a photo of these firefighters.
[01:19:52.160 -> 01:19:55.520] It only looks like it's like superficial damage
[01:19:55.520 -> 01:19:57.740] to the underbelly locker.
[01:19:57.740 -> 01:20:00.640] So it doesn't look like too dramatic,
[01:20:00.640 -> 01:20:01.720] but still you just think,
[01:20:01.720 -> 01:20:05.040] fucking what has this team done in a previous life.
[01:20:08.000 -> 01:20:12.080] Fuel flow gate a couple years ago this is everything. Oh true yeah in that case fuck
[01:20:12.080 -> 01:20:18.240] it they deserve everything they're getting. Right we cheated still didn't win and settled out of
[01:20:18.240 -> 01:20:26.520] court boom bang yeah exactly that's grim. So yeah I I think is going to be a pretty simple Red Bull victory.
[01:20:26.520 -> 01:20:27.520] Easy.
[01:20:27.520 -> 01:20:28.520] Easy dubs.
[01:20:28.520 -> 01:20:31.960] Yeah, now that I've said that, it won't be, but that's what I'm feeling.
[01:20:31.960 -> 01:20:32.960] What about you?
[01:20:32.960 -> 01:20:38.720] Well, I'm thinking since it's Monza, we're going to see the Ferrari tow.
[01:20:38.720 -> 01:20:43.640] You know, them sucking each other off, towing each other off down the straight, sorry.
[01:20:43.640 -> 01:20:44.960] You should get excited about that.
[01:20:44.960 -> 01:20:45.400] So, you know, pulling each other down the straight and see who, yeah, just get excited about that. So, you know,
[01:20:45.400 -> 01:20:46.520] pulling each other down the straight
[01:20:46.520 -> 01:20:47.800] and see who can fuck that up.
[01:20:47.800 -> 01:20:48.960] But they didn't they
[01:20:48.960 -> 01:20:49.920] manage it the other year?
[01:20:49.920 -> 01:20:51.640] I think we see a couple teams doing that
[01:20:51.640 -> 01:20:53.240] and we're going to see some huge fumbles,
[01:20:53.880 -> 01:20:55.960] qualifying clusterfucks of traffic.
[01:20:56.480 -> 01:20:57.800] Yeah, and oh, yeah.
[01:20:57.800 -> 01:20:59.560] And like you said with
[01:20:59.560 -> 01:21:01.360] I don't think this is going to suit the Mercs
[01:21:01.360 -> 01:21:03.240] based on what we saw in spa.
[01:21:03.680 -> 01:21:05.200] The Red Bulls just too slippy.
[01:21:05.200 -> 01:21:08.160] The Ferrari Ferrari can trim it out a little bit as well.
[01:21:08.640 -> 01:21:12.080] I expect fries can be absolutely mental through
[01:21:13.400 -> 01:21:17.240] Lesmo one to a scary and their big breaking potential.
[01:21:17.280 -> 01:21:21.880] I think we might actually see Ferrari taking a little bit out of Red Bull here,
[01:21:22.280 -> 01:21:25.360] you know, making up for their lack of straight line,
[01:21:25.360 -> 01:21:28.280] for braking,
[01:21:28.280 -> 01:21:31.940] traction, and having a bit more downforce.
[01:21:31.940 -> 01:21:35.720] So I still think it's going to be a Red Bull in the race.
[01:21:35.720 -> 01:21:38.760] Ferrari's pace and...
[01:21:38.760 -> 01:21:40.720] Well, they can have the best car in the world, mate,
[01:21:40.720 -> 01:21:42.840] but we've seen them throw this away so many times.
[01:21:42.840 -> 01:21:44.140] Yeah, yeah.
[01:21:44.140 -> 01:21:49.960] So, but also we may have, we've forgotten something.
[01:21:49.960 -> 01:21:54.480] We've forgotten to do our fraud, fraud watch for the Dutch Grand Prix.
[01:21:54.480 -> 01:21:55.840] Oh my God.
[01:21:55.840 -> 01:21:59.600] So this is, this is a segment that we've inherited from your, from your stream.
[01:21:59.600 -> 01:22:01.860] And I used to do a bit of streaming.
[01:22:01.860 -> 01:22:03.840] We had this thing where we do fraud watch, right?
[01:22:03.840 -> 01:22:08.160] So who was, who's the fraud of the weekend?
[01:22:08.160 -> 01:22:10.120] And we're bringing it into the podcast.
[01:22:10.120 -> 01:22:11.360] OK, you want to go?
[01:22:11.360 -> 01:22:12.000] It's yours.
[01:22:12.000 -> 01:22:14.000] Should you christen it?
[01:22:14.000 -> 01:22:15.480] Yeah, OK, I'll christen it.
[01:22:15.480 -> 01:22:20.200] So my fraud of basically the Dutch Grand Prix,
[01:22:20.200 -> 01:22:23.840] I'm going to give it to whoever is responsible to Daniel
[01:22:23.840 -> 01:22:25.680] Ricardo's fucking strategy.
[01:22:25.680 -> 01:22:29.920] I think that was god awful.
[01:22:29.920 -> 01:22:33.620] I mean there's plenty of other people to give it to, but they're more obvious.
[01:22:33.620 -> 01:22:37.880] I'm gonna give it to the not-so-obvious Daniel Ricciardo strategy.
[01:22:37.880 -> 01:22:40.080] I don't know what the fuck they were thinking of with that.
[01:22:40.080 -> 01:22:44.240] Yeah, the fucking bingo card of Pirelli tires.
[01:22:44.240 -> 01:22:46.860] Got that one, soft, yep. Another soft. Yeah, I got two soft
[01:22:46.860 -> 01:22:52.800] So the three softs on that card, yeah, we got them all. Yeah, like in it for I think that one makes complete sense now
[01:22:53.700 -> 01:23:00.720] Go for it. I'm gonna go for the obvious one because yes, it's becoming painfully consistent is
[01:23:01.440 -> 01:23:03.440] What are Ferrari doing man?
[01:23:03.440 -> 01:23:03.840] consistent is what are Ferrari doing, man?
[01:23:08.080 -> 01:23:09.880] Like it seems like there's it seems like they're sitting carrier pigeons between their drivers, pit wall in their garage.
[01:23:09.880 -> 01:23:10.400] And it's.
[01:23:11.960 -> 01:23:17.080] I understand how difficult orchestrating pit stops and, you know, a full race team
[01:23:17.080 -> 01:23:20.440] of what how many mechanics do you have, 30, 50 mechanics, whatever it is, there's
[01:23:20.440 -> 01:23:30.240] a lot of there's a lot of people in charge and moving pieces. But how how on earth is the prancing horse dropping the ball this badly?
[01:23:30.240 -> 01:23:36.240] They're they're an institution like we like we talked about it like people now.
[01:23:36.240 -> 01:23:40.800] Are fans of drivers, but there's still to Fossey.
[01:23:40.800 -> 01:23:42.280] This is this is a team thing.
[01:23:42.280 -> 01:23:44.280] This is a religion.
[01:23:44.280 -> 01:23:46.120] And you've got these people relying on you and
[01:23:46.680 -> 01:23:52.000] You drop in the ball like that is it's pretty clear man me. I'll tell you if they called me tomorrow
[01:23:52.520 -> 01:23:55.860] I'd go to maranello and work from oh, I wouldn't do it
[01:23:56.320 -> 01:24:03.440] No, I would there's there's definitely an allure about no. I have no interest team. You know what you can't sell me on
[01:24:04.320 -> 01:24:07.300] the the smell of petrol and the experience.
[01:24:07.700 -> 01:24:10.700] I mean, they wouldn't call you because you're shit at your job.
[01:24:10.700 -> 01:24:11.400] Yeah, I know.
[01:24:11.400 -> 01:24:11.900] Exactly.
[01:24:11.900 -> 01:24:14.000] And they're not going to pay me 15 million to fuck off.
[01:24:14.000 -> 01:24:15.500] So I'm not even going to consider that.
[01:24:16.000 -> 01:24:17.700] So fraud of the day.
[01:24:17.700 -> 01:24:19.700] Do we have a good boy of the day?
[01:24:20.300 -> 01:24:20.900] A good boy.
[01:24:20.900 -> 01:24:21.800] Engine engine mode.
[01:24:21.800 -> 01:24:22.400] Good boy.
[01:24:23.000 -> 01:24:23.600] Engine mode.
[01:24:23.600 -> 01:24:24.600] Good boy of the day.
[01:24:24.900 -> 01:24:25.080] My good boy is actually not going to be a good boy. Engine mode good boy of the day.
[01:24:25.080 -> 01:24:26.920] My good boy is actually not going to be a good boy.
[01:24:26.920 -> 01:24:29.880] I think I'm going to give it to Hannah.
[01:24:29.880 -> 01:24:31.640] Hannah Schmitz.
[01:24:31.640 -> 01:24:37.040] Red Bull strategist and GOAT of all the strategists.
[01:24:37.040 -> 01:24:39.040] I think she kept her head down.
[01:24:39.040 -> 01:24:43.760] And I really like the shot of her smiling after Checo ran over the Ferrari pit wall
[01:24:43.760 -> 01:24:44.760] gun.
[01:24:44.760 -> 01:24:46.160] That tweet was spectacular bro.
[01:24:46.160 -> 01:24:52.720] Yeah but that smile was actually after she got on the radio to Franz Tos' earpiece and told
[01:24:52.720 -> 01:24:57.200] him to do that though wasn't it? She's like, we'll initiate plan Sunoda. Yeah copy that.
[01:24:57.840 -> 01:25:04.160] Over. Yeah so I'll give it to Hannah, big up Hannah. Yeah well done. I think for Bantz,
[01:25:04.160 -> 01:25:06.620] I think we're going to try to reach out to her to see if she'll come
[01:25:06.620 -> 01:25:07.620] on and do one of these.
[01:25:07.620 -> 01:25:08.620] She probably won't.
[01:25:08.620 -> 01:25:09.620] She's probably not allowed.
[01:25:09.620 -> 01:25:10.620] Yeah, she won't.
[01:25:10.620 -> 01:25:13.620] The worst you can say is no, right?
[01:25:13.620 -> 01:25:14.620] Yeah, exactly.
[01:25:14.620 -> 01:25:15.620] Exactly.
[01:25:15.620 -> 01:25:16.620] We'll have to reach out.
[01:25:16.620 -> 01:25:20.320] I'm sure she would love it, even if it's a short segment.
[01:25:20.320 -> 01:25:23.700] It actually could do a little bit of shit house, but I think it could also be a bit
[01:25:23.700 -> 01:25:30.560] more serious. Um, my my good boy of the day is probably King George.
[01:25:31.860 -> 01:25:35.600] Yeah, yeah, I mean he was he was fast the whole race like to be
[01:25:35.600 -> 01:25:40.200] fair, Lewis was on one as well, but where the team dropped the
[01:25:40.200 -> 01:25:44.680] ball, George said, nah, no, I'm not having that.
[01:25:44.960 -> 01:25:47.720] And I'm not trying to, that's not a
[01:25:47.720 -> 01:25:52.080] controversial pick. I think he drove really well. And even on their hard stint in the
[01:25:52.080 -> 01:25:59.400] middle of the race, Russell looked, Russell looked really good, man. So, you know, I think
[01:25:59.400 -> 01:26:05.600] Hamilton got a little bit unlucky with traffic in that stint. Russell was on it. I think if anybody was going
[01:26:05.600 -> 01:26:11.680] to win that race, it was going to be Lewis, if not Max. But I think Russell did a good race and
[01:26:12.480 -> 01:26:18.880] he keeps doing it. So they've got probably, how am I going to say this out loud?
[01:26:20.000 -> 01:26:25.520] I think Mercedes have the most competitive driver lineup, in my opinion.
[01:26:28.640 -> 01:26:33.440] I am quite happy to agree with you on that one. Those two, this is not a dig. It's one of those weird things, if you say George is doing good,
[01:26:33.440 -> 01:26:34.960] people are mad that you're not asking.
[01:26:34.960 -> 01:26:37.200] Say it with your chest. Say it with your chest.
[01:26:37.200 -> 01:26:42.000] The Mercedes pairing is probably the most powerful pairing on the grid right now.
[01:26:42.000 -> 01:26:47.360] The car is just a bit off, and we see see that those two guys are trading back and forth.
[01:26:47.360 -> 01:26:54.440] Merck, Sir Lewis, George Russell, strongest pairing on the grid right now.
[01:26:54.440 -> 01:26:55.440] Yep.
[01:26:55.440 -> 01:26:56.440] Agreed.
[01:26:56.440 -> 01:26:57.440] So, how do-
[01:26:57.440 -> 01:27:01.560] I think that's pretty much wraps it up I think, doesn't it?
[01:27:01.560 -> 01:27:06.540] That flew by man, we did a probably an hour or 15 or so on on pod life.
[01:27:06.800 -> 01:27:08.160] So why don't we?
[01:27:08.160 -> 01:27:09.200] Well, we're going to try to do this
[01:27:09.200 -> 01:27:10.700] once a week after the races,
[01:27:10.700 -> 01:27:13.080] probably Monday, Tuesday nights.
[01:27:13.080 -> 01:27:13.780] I'm flexible.
[01:27:13.780 -> 01:27:15.120] We'll get a system figured out.
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[01:27:20.620 -> 01:27:21.340] if you want to see
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[01:27:38.800 -> 01:27:45.200] My name's Blake. You can find me on Twitch at Break with three R's. B R R R A K E.
[01:27:45.200 -> 01:27:47.600] So Twitch, Twitter, and Instagram are all Break.
[01:27:47.600 -> 01:27:50.640] And then on TikTok and YouTube, you can find me at BreakF1.
[01:27:50.640 -> 01:27:50.960] Dan?
[01:27:52.480 -> 01:27:56.720] Yeah, and you can find me at NG Mode 11 on Twitter and YouTube.
[01:27:58.000 -> 01:28:03.520] Do be sure to follow us on Twitter, Instagram, and TikTok.
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[01:28:06.840 -> 01:28:09.580] I really hope you guys enjoyed your time tonight.
[01:28:09.580 -> 01:28:13.280] I had a blast hanging out with my internet husband, Dan.
[01:28:13.280 -> 01:28:15.080] And it's been a pleasure getting to know you
[01:28:15.080 -> 01:28:16.020] since we left Red Bull,
[01:28:16.020 -> 01:28:18.920] because we just never talked about Red Bull,
[01:28:18.920 -> 01:28:21.080] but here we are and it's manifest.
[01:28:21.080 -> 01:28:22.680] It's been a long time in the making.
[01:28:22.680 -> 01:28:24.520] First episode in the books.
[01:28:24.520 -> 01:28:26.800] I hope you guys had a blast.
[01:28:26.800 -> 01:28:28.320] If you're on the stream, stick around.
[01:28:28.320 -> 01:28:32.920] We'll be hanging around for another probably 15 minutes before we wrap.
[01:28:32.920 -> 01:28:34.240] See you guys next time.
[01:28:34.240 -> 01:28:35.240] Peace.
[01:28:35.240 -> 01:28:36.240] Peace.
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